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#1 Aug 27 2013 at 8:36 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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Seriously?

Did SE do **anything** during the beta periods?

I'm beginning to think they didn't start development on the "new" version of the game UNTIL the beta tests.

The combination of down time, patches, forced server closures, etc. is shaping this up to be in the Top 5 worst launches in MMO history.

Unless they do something miraculous (and soon) the critical 30-60-90 day period post release will be devastating.

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#2 Aug 27 2013 at 8:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maintenance is a necessary evil. Only really worth complaining about if it's all day, extended for the third time or addressing an issue that is being fixed for the tenth time.

We give them sh*t for the game being broken, can we at least cut them some slack when they're trying to fix it? Smiley: laugh

What is with Filth being so optimistic all of a sudden? Yeh, on the bright side it will boot all the people who are afk thinking they're getting over and allow people who probably haven't even been able to login once yet, a chance to see the sights.

tl;dr

SUCK IT UP

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 10:44pm by FilthMcNasty
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#3 Aug 27 2013 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't play the game right now..1017..any maintenance is very welcome.
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Not gonna do anything about 1017 though.

They are fixing two quests and the double artifact glitch.
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#5 Aug 27 2013 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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wait so they ignore the biggest issue. *FacePalm*
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#6 Aug 27 2013 at 8:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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thelastofclass wrote:
wait so they ignore the biggest issue. *FacePalm*


How does patching or not patching the servers have any bearing on whether or not they are ignoring the lack of server capacity?

They either have servers to deploy or they don't. If they don't patch software issues it's not going to magically make more servers appear.


Edited, Aug 27th 2013 10:49pm by KarlHungis
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They're not ignoring it. You cannot go to Best Buy and buy new servers off the shelf, however.

Also, if you didn't play FFXI, welcome to a Final Fantasy MMO. Emergency Maintenance is par for the course.
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#8 Aug 27 2013 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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This issue can't be fixed with a patch. They're talking about having more hardware next week some time.
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LebargeX wrote:
This issue can't be fixed with a patch. They're talking about having more hardware next week some time.


Source, please?
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There is a NOC_NA post that says the Japan Data centers is getting servers next week. There is some ambiguity in the text of the announcement that makes the optimistic believe the NA data center is getting servers too.

There is a second rumor-ridden post with no source about a Yoshi-P having a conversation with SE management about adding servers to the NA data center with no date attached.

I personally believe they are only adding servers to JP next week and do not yet have a decision on the NA data center (which is my personal feeling based on the lack of info coming from SE, which for the record, has no information behind it).

edit: NOC_NA post: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/70022-NA-Regarding-Congestion-in-Japan-Data-Center-Worlds-%28Aug.-27%29

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 7:56pm by Buffylvr
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#11 Aug 27 2013 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
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It's too bad they can't do maintenance like GW2 does. Probably different hardware or something.

At least he maintenance is when I'm sleeping.
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#12 Aug 27 2013 at 8:56 PM Rating: Good
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KarlHungis wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
This issue can't be fixed with a patch. They're talking about having more hardware next week some time.


Source, please?


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It only mentions the JP datacenter, so I don't really know how much good it will do...

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 7:57pm by LebargeX
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#13 Aug 27 2013 at 8:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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At least the servers will be cleaned out and people who want to play can try and log in again, right? Since it will boot all the AFK people and only those that were playing or trying to play will make it back in.



Edited, Aug 27th 2013 10:58pm by WFOAssassin
#14 Aug 27 2013 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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They just need more servers in JP cause all the locked out NA/EU are rolling on JP servers.
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#15 Aug 27 2013 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good
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Dorgon wrote:
They just need more servers in JP cause all the locked out NA/EU are rolling on JP servers.

I suppose anything to ease the congestion will be a welcome change. Adding new servers doesn't fix the problem with the one my character is on always being full though... Maybe this time.... *shrug*
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KarlHungis wrote:
thelastofclass wrote:
wait so they ignore the biggest issue. *FacePalm*


How does patching or not patching the servers have any bearing on whether or not they are ignoring the lack of server capacity?

They either have servers to deploy or they don't. If they don't patch software issues it's not going to magically make more servers appear.


Edited, Aug 27th 2013 10:49pm by KarlHungis


Never said they need to "Patch". I said they are ignoring the biggest issue.

I enjoy the game when I can play. Though in return this 1017 is nothing but stating 1. SE was ill prepared for this launch and 2. Are using a Lazy way to fix the issue at hand.

Now if they mention they will have problem fixed in a week or so time, thats fine by me, they fix the problem.
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#17 Aug 27 2013 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
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If nothing else, it will clear out all the people who have been AFK'ing all day long. :P

Personally, I'm not too worried either way. Tomorrow I set out on a 5 day trip with no computer. The younger me may have cried at this, but I have been hardened by the constant 1017.
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#18 Aug 27 2013 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
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how long till server maintenance?
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I have been the first to complain loudly and often. I am still VERY unhappy with how the early access and the launch have gone. Having said that if they are adding an afk boot in the maintenance it is well worth it. With what we already know are congested servers people logging in and staying is only making it worse. Trust me I understand why people are doing it but it needs fixed.
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Dorgon wrote:
They just need more servers in JP cause all the locked out NA/EU are rolling on JP servers.


Or because JP actually get to play now. Only JP Legacy/CE get to play in EA (unlike ROW where you get EA simply by preorder), yesterday was when all other JP get to play.

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 11:04pm by Khornette
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#21 Aug 27 2013 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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I am just listening to some good ol' Punk while spamming that log in right now. I will try a little longer than I am going to watch Top Gun.
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#22 Aug 27 2013 at 9:12 PM Rating: Default
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Catwho wrote:
They're not ignoring it. You cannot go to Best Buy and buy new servers off the shelf, however.

Also, if you didn't play FFXI, welcome to a Final Fantasy MMO. Emergency Maintenance is par for the course.



After what happened in all the betas how could they not realize the need for additional capacity?

They are gambling that NA/Eur customers have become so used to craptatsic gaming experiences that they'll just eat the serving of gruel and come 30 days from now, pay for more.

It's tough for us old timers, this kind of total disregard for the playerbase would have killed a game back in the early years..

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They had four times as many players sign up for early access as they did open beta. And they had half again as many people create characters for the beta than they expected.

They DID plan for extra capacity. Just not quadruple extra capacity.

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 11:16pm by Catwho
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#24 Aug 27 2013 at 9:18 PM Rating: Default
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Catwho wrote:
They had four times as many players sign up for early access as they did open beta. And they had half again as many people create characters for the beta than they expected.

They DID plan for extra capacity. Just not quadruple extra capacity.

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 11:16pm by Catwho


Defend them any way you like.

In any other industry this kind of abysmal project management/planning would get a lot of people fired ASAP.

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Catwho wrote:
They had four times as many players sign up for early access as they did open beta. And they had half again as many people create characters for the beta than they expected.

They DID plan for extra capacity. Just not quadruple extra capacity.

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 11:16pm by Catwho


The biggest problem are those you stay AFK for all day though. Problem is they caused that with the 1017.

I won't let this ruin the game for me though. I have so much fun with my fellow ZAM community.
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Hey, I got stuck between zones and got 1017'd so someone got my spot on Lamia just now.
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#27 Aug 27 2013 at 9:37 PM Rating: Decent
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*shakes head* at SE. Fence riding in 2013 is not an acceptable business practice any longer.
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#28 Aug 27 2013 at 9:53 PM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
They're not ignoring it. You cannot go to Best Buy and buy new servers off the shelf, however.

Also, if you didn't play FFXI, welcome to a Final Fantasy MMO. Emergency Maintenance is par for the course.


^ this. I played for almost 10 years on XI and this is the norm. Get used to it and get over it already. I didnt even pay D3 until 2 weeks after the launch -KNOWING- that would happen. Im just looking forward to playing the game again after open beta.


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#29 Aug 27 2013 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
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At least the afk'ers will get logged out now.
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I don't know why everyone keeps going on about the afk people being logged out. You guys do realize they will probably all log back in the second maintenance is over right? Ah well, at least there is word about them addressing the server capacity issue.

For me, I think it is a good time for a nap. I finally have some days off after 4 days of working. So I can just stay up from 6 AM to noon playing this game during the only functional hours it has. Yay third shift. If that doesn't work though, can someone tell me what JA server most NA players are playing on?
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vahlmyth wrote:
Seriously?

Did SE do **anything** during the beta periods?

I'm beginning to think they didn't start development on the "new" version of the game UNTIL the beta tests.

The combination of down time, patches, forced server closures, etc. is shaping this up to be in the Top 5 worst launches in MMO history.

Unless they do something miraculous (and soon) the critical 30-60-90 day period post release will be devastating.



One of the reasons for the patch is to clear out the AFK players. The reason things are going better on Japanese servers is that they are only logging on when they are playing - there is a natural good manners that people log out when not playing and that keeps space clear on the servers. On US/EU a large portion of the population is AFK preventing those who want to play from playing. It's like the queuing in beta for instances, the Japanese progressed because they could work together rather than feeling entitled.
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