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#1 Aug 27 2013 at 9:31 PM Rating: Good
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If you had a vote on which are the hardest bosses in the Final Fantasy franchise, which would it be?

Sephiroth
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You left out Pandemonium Warden, who was AV's older, meaner cousin.

The one that caused infamy because a linkshell spent 18 hours trying to kill it.

After that, SE capped the battle to 2 hours. Took months for a group to beat him.
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#3 Aug 27 2013 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
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Ya I remember that fight, I was on Seraph when BtL did it.
Was pretty funny
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Penance. >:c
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I can't remember it's name but the "end game" dragon in FF XII. He had like 100 million HP or something.
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Yunalesca isn't hard at all if you had you team leveled like I usually do by the time I get there. She sure was tough the first time I fought her though.

I was like "What?! 3 forms?! She can get that crap outta here."
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Man AV and Pandamonium Warden were ridiculous. . . . add to that Vrtra in King Ranpierre's tomb. The first time the linkshell i was part attempted it we had set up an awsome kite with minks etc right? everything was going great . . . . . then P00000F...
Me> so uh where the **** did the dragon go?
linkshellmate> beats the **** outta me man i was hundredfisting it to death and uh it went away.
LSleader> uh so apparently its running around ronfaure terrorizing the local citizenry and uh there's a GM on it killling our half dead vrtra.
Me> WTF. . . .
Me> can we at least get the drops for it since we spent some time getting it to half dead or what?
LSleader> pack it up we're going home; and no its dead already and all loot will not be dispensed to us.

I found out later that a rl friend of mine was leveling BST up when that thing aggrod his beetle then him, he sent me a tell asking if there was supposed to be a giant dragon in ronfaure and i told him no.

I laughed for a good long while when he dscribed to me what happened when it popped up in a n00b zone.
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Nothing from FFVI unfortunately.
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#9 Aug 27 2013 at 9:56 PM Rating: Good
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Don't know if I'd consider him a boss or not, but definitely close enough. Yiazmat from FF XII gave me no end of frustration. Was even worse than the insta-death spamming Zelara ( at least I think that was his name, been a while).
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Don't know if I'd consider him a boss or not, but definitely close enough. Yiazmat from FF XII gave me no end of frustration. Was even worse than the insta-death spamming Zelara ( at least I think that was his name, been a while).

Yeah that's the one I was talking about. Oh and that 13th Esper was a rat bastich.
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Yunalesca isn't hard at all if you had you team leveled like I usually do by the time I get there. She sure was tough the first time I fought her though.

I was like "What?! 3 forms?! She can get that crap outta here."


Well, technically, if you are over leveled on anything, it's not hard. Thing is, she is hard when you're the appropriate level.
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#12 Aug 27 2013 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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I actually never had any trouble with Yunalesca, I always thought she was relatively easy but just a long fight. I did however have horrible issues with Seymour Flux.
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I agree, Seymour Flux was a pain in the ***. Took me about three tries to get it right.

As long as you could make it to Yunalesca's final form, you were fine. She just kept casting Demi which would halve your HP, but that was okay because a half of a half of a half of a half.... you'd get low, but you'd never quite to zero. And then you killed her.

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Catwho wrote:
I agree, Seymour Flux was a pain in the ***. Took me about three tries to get it right.

As long as you could make it to Yunalesca's final form, you were fine. She just kept casting Demi which would halve your HP, but that was okay because a half of a half of a half of a half.... you'd get low, but you'd never quite to zero. And then you killed her.

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 12:22am by Catwho

Def. agree on Flux. I usually just ended up cheesing him with Aeon overdrives. 4 x 9999 + Bahamut's (with native BDL) 25,000 = 65,000 - about 5k away from a win. Huge post-OD delay was irrelevant, as they were dead on his first turn after summoning anyway. Toss in Wakka's attack reels, and gravy.

And the newer "hidden" bosses are definitely a step above the old ones - they expect you to have basically broken the game, in order to have any chance against them. In FFVIII, I could beat Omega Weapon in 2 rounds with a bit of luck (2 x 12 second Duel's for Zell, a Lionheart proc for Squall), and getting that set up was maybe 75 hours of gametime. For Penance, I cleared any non-ability/+4 stat node from the whole of the sphere grid, replaced with enough of each to get to 255, then the rest were +HP nodes - minimum 150 hours. Still have nightmares about the monster arena! And Yiazmat - all 99's, ultimate gear etc. Not to mention a perfect run would be at least 2-2 1/2 hours long. Zodiark was a breeze in comparison - just the last 20% or so was a pain, with his physical & magical paling for 50 out of 60 seconds or so. Spam damage there, then rest/recovery.
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I was hoping to see Warmech on that list. Guess I'm just old school that way.
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IF Yiazmat from FF XII is the boss that appears when you caught all the monsters in the hunter guild and he killed the head moogle father. He's the most insane boss I ever beat . 3 times fighting him was enough! 5 and a half hours to beat him the 1st time.2nd time died at the 3hour mark, I ran out of "300" phoenix downs. 3rd time i beat it in 4 and a half hours.
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Ralrra wrote:
I was hoping to see Warmech on that list. Guess I'm just old school that way.


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IF Yiazmat from FF XII is the boss that appears when you caught all the monsters in the hunter guild and he killed the head moogle father. He's the most insane boss I ever beat . 3 times fighting him was enough! 5 and a half hours to beat him the 1st time.2nd time died at the 3hour mark, I ran out of "300" phoenix downs. 3rd time i beat it in 4 and a half hours.

I mention Warmech, and you're the next poster?

WHAT IS THIS BLACK SORCERY?!?

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Not FF, but Parasite Eve anyone? :'(
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LebargeX wrote:
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Don't know if I'd consider him a boss or not, but definitely close enough. Yiazmat from FF XII gave me no end of frustration. Was even worse than the insta-death spamming Zelara ( at least I think that was his name, been a while).

Yeah that's the one I was talking about. Oh and that 13th Esper was a rat bastich.


You're probably talking about Zalera, mentioned in my post, when you say 13th Esper. He was deep inside the Barheim Passage. You had to do the side quest in South Bank village to get the key and gain access to him. He wasn't a pimple on Yiazmat's hind end, though.
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nobody's giving Ozma any love? I remember him being a tough battle. I was young at the time, so maybe it was because of my age, but I remember it taking me several attempts to take him down.
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definitely Ozma
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I don't recall ever having defeated Ruby Weapon in FF7. The ****** always managed to eliminate the character with the best limit break first...
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Ralrra wrote:
I was hoping to see Warmech on that list. Guess I'm just old school that way.


Fought Warmech at around the age of 11 on my 2nd-hand NES system. We've come along way together Final Fantasy... here's to another ~15 years (or more) of adventure!

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Edited, Aug 28th 2013 5:25am by ChaChaJaJa
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Not FF, but Parasite Eve anyone? :'(


When you fight Eve on that goo pile in the ocean is the most retarded **** ever. I hate that fight with a passion.

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definitely Ozma


Ozma was a *******.

My vote is for Weigraf in FFT PS1. If you came unprepared for that fight, you came to die.
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My personal vote goes to Ultros & Typhoon in FFXIII-2's Downloadable Content bonus fight...

What a pain that was. Longest fight ever... I don't think i've ever used Paradigm Shift so much in a single fight. My fingers were bleeeeeeeeeding at the end! (Not actually, but they hurt x.x)
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You left out Pandemonium Warden, who was AV's older, meaner cousin.

The one that caused infamy because a linkshell spent 18 hours trying to kill it.

After that, SE capped the battle to 2 hours. Took months for a group to beat him.


didn`t they also nerf his stats after they capped it? if it was the original AV i think 2 hours would be impossibru!
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The boss fight in FF9 on the Fat Chocobo's Paradise that floated around in the sky. Think it was Ozma, but he was the toughest thing you could face in that entire game.

Meteor for 9999 on everyone, killing you instantly regardless. Death spells. I have never been able to beat him. Took insane preparation and set abilities.
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I love the fact that he's a boss in a FATE.
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Omg you gotta be kidding, Yiazmat? Hard?? Maybe when you tried him without the right equipment... or something? I thought it was the most ridiculously easy secret boss ever. Auto-gambit win, sure I died the first few tries, then got my gambits sorted out and I literally did nothing, went to friends, came back and it was dead ; ; /sadpanda....

Hardest boss? Prolly AV or Pandemonium Warden, old school ^^
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I mention Warmech, and you're the next poster?

WHAT IS THIS BLACK SORCERY?!? Smiley: lol
Nah sorcery was what those cthulhu looking guys outside Tiamat's room with hits that took 1000 hp. The Black Belt guys hp was the only one that could survive that 1hit kill.
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Really if you fought her as goo her sister lived, if you fought her secret tougher sister she lived, so unfair.

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I was hoping to see Warmech on that list. Guess I'm just old school that way.


Fought Warmech at around the age of 11 on my 2nd-hand NES system. We've come along way together Final Fantasy... here's to another ~15 years (or more) of adventure!

God I love YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4-FoX1W3HY

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 5:25am by ChaChaJaJa

That You Tube video is nice but it made Warmech look like a wimp he didn't even nuke those max level characters . Warmech's a mid game mob that if you beat him you can beat the game.
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I beat Yiazmat the 2nd month after the game release, before all the guides came out. He'll always be my toughest boss and I don't remember getting any rewards but a "Thank You" from a bunch of chipmunk looking moogles.
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Guardian: before Kefka's Tower. Though I do understand that it's not designed to be a winnable fight while in Vector, but still.

I happen to think Zemus is one of FF's tougher final bosses, he actually does a fairly good job of kicking your ***.

I hate Emerald and Ruby Weapon.

I hated AV as well.

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I can't remember it's name but the "end game" dragon in FF XII. He had like 100 million HP or something.


Fafnir / Nidhogg?

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 2:30pm by Hairspray
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Are they talking about Zodiark...?
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I second Wiegraf. Between him & Gafgarion they made a lot of ppl quit the game when they saved the game after the first part.
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LebargeX wrote:
I can't remember it's name but the "end game" dragon in FF XII. He had like 100 million HP or something.


Fafnir / Nidhogg?

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 2:30pm by Hairspray


Oh... I didn't see that was FF XII, I just figured you were talking about FFXI since you said "End Game"...

My bad.
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I second Wiegraf. Between him & Gafgarion they made a lot of ppl quit the game when they saved the game after the first part.

I completely forgot Tactics.

That game was loaded with pain in the *** fights.

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You rolled him out of the 1/64 chance dice roll. Them's the breaks!
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I love the fact that he's a boss in a FATE.


Haha, yes! Sometimes I just got and see him to see how he's been doing. Then I take my clothes off so he knows it's me and that's how he remembers us all anyway.
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You know who I found difficult?

That stupid Carry Armor weapon thing in FFVII. IDK why, my childhood had bad memories from that thing.


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My opinion, either snow from ffxiii 2 in the coliseum, because at 2%, after fighting him for 4-6 hours, he could 1shot your whole party, pandemonium warden, well, for very obvious reasons, valfodr lv. 99 from ffxiii 2 coliseum because he could deal a ton of damage and is in my opinion th hardest boss I have ever faced in a game, took me a total of 44 tries to kill him, and lastly Ozma, because I simply do not like him and never will, he's a coward and killed me more times than I can count, but out of any of these he's the only one I would face again.
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The original Final Fantasy was hands-down the toughest game of the franchise.

So, as a shout-out to No. 1, I'm throwing in the Dark Elf fight.

EDIT: Had to look it up... I'm talking about the fight with Astos. There may be other more difficult fights in the game, but that one stuck with me for some reason.

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I had an easier time with Ruby than I did with Emerald, oddly enough.

If you went to fight Omega Weapon in 8 unprepared, you were in for a treat (and some pain) less you used Selphie's "The End" which is just cheap. :P

I agree that Yunalesca at the appropriate level was hard. My boyfriend also said to me he won with the exact strategy that I won with: everyone was dead except Rikku and he just spammed potions to win. lol

I don't think AV was hard just because he was designed to be unbeatable it seems. PW was challenging when I did him from a WHM perspective. You needed a lot of things in that fight prior to people realizing BLU was pretty good on it. One of the strategies we employed actually had everyone change job when he got to the last phase. lol BRDs, CORs, and a bunch of melee with meditate. '

I think Twin was pretty hard to learn. Requires near flawless execution.

The international version of X had some REALLY nasty fights.

FF12 had some interesting bosses if you didn't out level them or use cheap tactics I think. 2nd Gilgamesh was a bit challenging, Zalera, Cúchulainn due to all the nasty statuses, Zodiark due to Darkja randomly killing people, etc. All a matter of preparation with the right gambits.

I had out leveled Ozma by the time I fought him but if I hadn't, he would have probably been one of the hardest fights.
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Since this got necro posted, going to toss out the Wildskeeper Reives in XI (SOA) when the colonization rate is low. When it's 100% they're down in 10 minutes. When it's around 10%... Let's say "100+ people beating on it for 2-4 hours" hard.
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I think everything pre-FFVIII was just difficult on your first encounter, but designed to doable after certain amount of grinding.

Even Omega and Shinryu from FFV could be completed once you had the key jobs leveled.

However omega weapon from FFVIII is not duable if you don't understand the correct strategy (don't get me wrong, it isn't difficult once you know what to do) but it was the first monster that required a strategy even with the best gear/stats available.

After that the progression has scaled both in complexity and time requirements, now is not just about knowing the strategy but also reaching the necessary gear/stats to execute it.

Although difficulty should also take resources into account, in the 80's it was game magazines, then came the internet, and now you just watch a video in Youtube and know exactly what to do.

With all that in mind, I think the hardest boss in FF history has been Asura from FFIV.

She is a summon that you can obtain for your party, but her specialty is healing magic, she does 2 things during the fight, auto-attack and heal herself, IIRC you reach there around lvl 35 and your party would have to be at least twice that level to out-damage her heals.

Your only real option is to know the strategy which involves a spell called "Barrier" which basically grants a reflect effect, you have to cast it on her so her healing magic cures your party instead of herself, the problem with that is that Barrier is the first installment of that kind of spell in the final fantasy franchise (at least in Western hemisphere), and your healer does not have it by the time you reach that point in the story.

She is an optional boss so most people just ignored her and kept going with the story, your only shot at the fight is keep leveling and pay attention to your spells, once your white mage learned "Barrier" the tool tip would be your only clue to take her down. And in fact it is very valuable knowledge as "Barrier" becomes a key spell for other fights in the game.
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My head naturally goes to 3 fights whenever I think of the hardest fights in FF

1- For sure the hardest fight I have ever encountered was (Im about to date myself) Final Fantasy 1....on the Bridge to Tiamat you could encounter a monster named

Warmech.

Warmech was the first destroyer of all life...he would one shot you all the time, Nuclear would put you at 5% right at the start of the fight and again and again. Plus he was given preemptive strikes all the time. Brutal...hardest fight ever.

2- Absolute Virture in FFXI....this one feels wierd to put on here because basically originally it was unbeatable.

3- Twintania considering I haven't defeated her in a month...she earned it. *****.
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