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#1 Aug 28 2013 at 5:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok I'm a little confused I've read numerous website but it's left me none the wiser?

What is needed for Black Mage unlock?

Is it; 30 THM 15 Archer..... 30 THM 15 PGL or is it 30 THM 15 ACN???

Sorry if this has been asked before but as I said I've read website and they all tell me different answers? Can someone answer this for me.

Thanks!
#2 Aug 28 2013 at 5:19 AM Rating: Good
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Archer sub I believe.
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#3 Aug 28 2013 at 6:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol, so confusing, anyone else know? Just wanna make sure before I level up one so I don't have to waste time.
#4 Aug 28 2013 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I found this site. http://www.ffxivguild.com/ff14-job-requirements-arr/

seems legit. It says archer
#5 Aug 28 2013 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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It's confusing though.. Why would Black Mage need archery? Even the official website (ffxiv lodestone) says 30 THM 15 Pugilist!! That's why I'm so confused lol.
#6 Aug 28 2013 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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There's the problem of confirmation bias given only a few days to find out. It's possible that it just requires any martial class plus Thaumaturge; I guess we'll know what's right given a little more data.

I started as an arcanist because some guide said that was a good pair with both thaums and conjurers.
#7 Aug 28 2013 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Level THM to 30, do the lvl 30 class quest. After that the BLM quest will be available and it will tell you what the requirements are!

EDIT: I leveled PUG to 15 b/c I thought DRG needed it. Turns out that it was MAR level 15...so I understand about not wanting to waste your time.

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 9:25am by jaggars
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#8 Aug 28 2013 at 7:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Bard - Archer 30 / Pugilist 15
Warrior - Marauder 30 / Gladiator 15
Monk - Pugilist 30 / Lancer 15
Dragoon - Lancer 30 / Marauder 15
Black Mage - Thaumaturge 30 / Archer 15
White Mage - Conjuror 30 / 15 Arcanist
Paladin - Gladiator 30 / Conjuror 15
Summoner - Arcanist 30 / Thaumaturge 15
Scholar- Arcanist 30 / Conjuror 15

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#9 Aug 28 2013 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Omniworm wrote:
It's confusing though.. Why would Black Mage need archery? Even the official website (ffxiv lodestone) says 30 THM 15 Pugilist!! That's why I'm so confused lol.


What i think they intend to do is have players be more diverse with the different class. Which is pretty fun to level different classes at early levels unlike FFXI.
#10 Aug 28 2013 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Anthony11420 wrote:
Omniworm wrote:
It's confusing though.. Why would Black Mage need archery? Even the official website (ffxiv lodestone) says 30 THM 15 Pugilist!! That's why I'm so confused lol.


What i think they intend to do is have players be more diverse with the different class. Which is pretty fun to level different classes at early levels unlike FFXI.


Well, they are both ranged DPS...so that part makes sense...
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#11 Aug 28 2013 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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jaggars wrote:
Anthony11420 wrote:
Omniworm wrote:
It's confusing though.. Why would Black Mage need archery? Even the official website (ffxiv lodestone) says 30 THM 15 Pugilist!! That's why I'm so confused lol.


What i think they intend to do is have players be more diverse with the different class. Which is pretty fun to level different classes at early levels unlike FFXI.


Well, they are both ranged DPS...so that part makes sense...


Other than that.. It doesn't make sense lol xD

And thanks gnu for clearing that for me, least I can level Archer without it being time wasted :)

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 9:39am by Omniworm
#12 Aug 28 2013 at 7:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's also in our wiki >.>

http://xivwiki.com/Black_Mage
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#13 Aug 28 2013 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
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If you read the archer quest text, it speaks about being able to pay attention to your surroundings and use your knowledge to exploit enemy weaknesses. I think that is how they are linking it to THM to get to BLM.

There was a lot of confusion about this but it was mainly because in version 1.0, support job was pugilist and when datamined people saw ARC and thought ARCanist.

Confirmed as Archer anyway now and good luck!
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#14 Aug 28 2013 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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I took pugilist to 12 due to false info. Then I took ACN to 15 due to false info. Finally the game told me I need Archer so I now have archer at 15. Worst... case... scenario.
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#15 Aug 28 2013 at 9:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, now you have more cross class abilities? lol
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#16 Aug 28 2013 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Valkayree wrote:
I took pugilist to 12 due to false info. Then I took ACN to 15 due to false info. Finally the game told me I need Archer so I now have archer at 15. Worst... case... scenario.


Now you have both Second Wind and Raging Strikes!

Those are some of the most useful cross-class abilities available.

Not so bad. ;)


Edited, Aug 28th 2013 1:41pm by Gnu
#17 Aug 28 2013 at 4:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Gnu wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
I took pugilist to 12 due to false info. Then I took ACN to 15 due to false info. Finally the game told me I need Archer so I now have archer at 15. Worst... case... scenario.


Now you have both Second Wind and Raging Strikes!

Those are some of the most useful cross-class abilities available.

Not so bad. ;)


Edited, Aug 28th 2013 1:41pm by Gnu

Yeah, I don't understand the whole "wasted levels" attitude. The beauty of the armory system is that nothing is ever "lost" (much like XI). A 12 PGL gets Featherfoot, Second Wind & Internal Release - 3 VERY nice abilities for any class. And while I may not have much interest in MNK at the moment, that may change in the future - plus, if the game is a 5-10 year journey like is being touted, I might want a change of pace sometime. Pick it back up, beat on mobs for 10 minutes to get the feel back, and then carry on - dungeon, guildhest, whatever takes my fancy Smiley: smile.
#18 Aug 28 2013 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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Gnu wrote:
Bard - Archer 30 / Pugilist 15
Warrior - Marauder 30 / Gladiator 15
Monk - Pugilist 30 / Lancer 15
Dragoon - Lancer 30 / Marauder 15
Black Mage - Thaumaturge 30 / Archer 15
White Mage - Conjuror 30 / 15 Arcanist
Paladin - Gladiator 30 / Conjuror 15
Summoner - Arcanist 30 / Thaumaturge 15
Scholar- Arcanist 30 / Conjuror 15

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Nice thanks.

I'm level 30 on my final quest: Face Your Demons.
Well I can't get past the first part because I can't find the third npc to give the flyer to. I've been in Vesper Bay a LONG TIME, more than an hour.

So, was there anything special about the third one? Sometimes they do hang out in trees. I went to every roof top to look.

Thanks, an answer woudl be greatly appreciated.

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#19 Aug 28 2013 at 6:44 PM Rating: Good
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Omniworm wrote:
It's confusing though.. Why would Black Mage need archery? Even the official website (ffxiv lodestone) says 30 THM 15 Pugilist!! That's why I'm so confused lol.


Cause Raging Strike and Quelling Strike. Super awesome.
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