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#1 Aug 29 2013 at 10:39 AM Rating: Default
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I started in 1.0, albeit quite hesitant but I had faith because I was a long standing member of the FFXI community.

Safe to say I was disappointed in the end and simply quit. I gave up on the chances of character recreation and legacy because it didn't matter enough to me.

When I heard about ARR and the overhaul on the game and the eventual re-release of FFXIV: A Realm Reborn I was immediately overwhelmed with excitement.

Now, just a few days into playing I'm already, shall we say finding myself wanting. Maybe its the lack of challenge or the gross punishment I would experience in FFXI that made the game so addicting that has brought out this feeling. I've already gotten my PUG and GLA to 15 and both were extremely tedious and mind-numbingly similar, monotonous button crushing, little to no strategy. Grouping remains the same, lackluster and un-inspired.

Maybe the game is too easy? Too WoW-esque (which was just an awful experience for me because I flew through the game in just a few months). I was happy that the game was entering a more "casual" pipeline for players seeking both challenge and ease of play as well. I run a small internet marketing firm so I only have so much time to relinquish to FFXIV and even then (as a casual gamer) I'm finding the game already to be, too casual maybe.

Just looking to see if other people are experiencing similar feelings. Hardcore FFXI players probably feel my pain and FFXI also took an absolute leap from the cliff of "excellent gaming experiences" to the all too common {Too Weak} reference.

I don't know. A month free to make a full decision but my fear is that FFXIV is doomed to fit into the {Too Weak} category.
#2 Aug 29 2013 at 10:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe you need to level up further than the starter zones.
#3 Aug 29 2013 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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AaronLamm wrote:
I started in 1.0, albeit quite hesitant but I had faith because I was a long standing member of the FFXI community.

Safe to say I was disappointed in the end and simply quit. I gave up on the chances of character recreation and legacy because it didn't matter enough to me.

When I heard about ARR and the overhaul on the game and the eventual re-release of FFXIV: A Realm Reborn I was immediately overwhelmed with excitement.

Now, just a few days into playing I'm already, shall we say finding myself wanting. Maybe its the lack of challenge or the gross punishment I would experience in FFXI that made the game so addicting that has brought out this feeling. I've already gotten my PUG and GLA to 15 and both were extremely tedious and mind-numbingly similar, monotonous button crushing, little to no strategy. Grouping remains the same, lackluster and un-inspired.

Maybe the game is too easy? Too WoW-esque (which was just an awful experience for me because I flew through the game in just a few months). I was happy that the game was entering a more "casual" pipeline for players seeking both challenge and ease of play as well. I run a small internet marketing firm so I only have so much time to relinquish to FFXIV and even then (as a casual gamer) I'm finding the game already to be, too casual maybe.

Just looking to see if other people are experiencing similar feelings. Hardcore FFXI players probably feel my pain and FFXI also took an absolute leap from the cliff of "excellent gaming experiences" to the all too common {Too Weak} reference.

I don't know. A month free to make a full decision but my fear is that FFXIV is doomed to fit into the {Too Weak} category.


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#4 Aug 29 2013 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm loving the game, So much to do, such a great and fun story. Even some of the chain side-story quests are amazing and fun if you read them. The atmosphere is great, the music is amazing. I love fates. I havnt dabbled in Crafting yet but I hear its amazing too.


Call me a fanboi if you want. But I'm just saying how I have expirienced the game so far. I'm taking it all in and enjoying it :-)
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#5 Aug 29 2013 at 10:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm having more fun with this game than I have in a long time. They got a lot right with 2.0!
#6 Aug 29 2013 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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Someone obviously hasn't cleared the Mines, yet.
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#7 Aug 29 2013 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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This is obviously a troll post... 1 post in history, flame-worthy topic and rant...
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#8 Aug 29 2013 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
I'm loving it. If it isn't your thing, it isn't your thing. MMORPGs are no longer made from the 'punish you with grinding and attunements and call it challenging' mold anymore. Things change. I hope you find one to your liking.
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#9 Aug 29 2013 at 10:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Level 15 might be a little early to make judgements on the game. However, given that you said the following:
AaronLamm wrote:
Maybe its the... gross punishment I would experience in FFXI that made the game so addicting.... Hardcore FFXI players probably feel my pain and FFXI also took an absolute leap from the cliff of "excellent gaming experiences" to the all too common {Too Weak} reference.

This game might not be for you.
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#10 Aug 29 2013 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is obviously a troll post... 1 post in history, flame-worthy topic and rant...
How many posts are you allowed before being allowed to not like something? This is essentially a new game, and this section of Zam is essentially a new site. You're going to have a lot of new posters if the game doesn't circle the drain. Give the new people a chance.
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#11 Aug 29 2013 at 10:58 AM Rating: Default
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A troll post? I just joined ZAM. This is what I'm talking about. People blindly posting about other people's posts. Forums were built for discussion.

Maybe one of these replies have already changed my perception of continuing. Seriously though, some of you should grow up and not just bash people for opinions.

This is why children shouldn't be allowed to join forums. Next time some of you decide to reply to a post, learn to give advice or recommend things or suggest things and not simply blast someone for their opinion.
#12 Aug 29 2013 at 11:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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As a FFXI player, I can say that this game is definitely made a bit easier and perhaps casual, but that's what the current market is.

Still though it comes with its challenges and there's still tons to do besides just leveling or fighting. It doesn't have to be casual if you don't want it to be, it's kind of what you make of it in the long run. And I don't know if you care but the story is very good once you really get into it. I understand what you're saying but I definitely think you should get a bit further before making a firm decision! c:
#13 Aug 29 2013 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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AaronLamm wrote:
A troll post? I just joined ZAM. This is what I'm talking about. People blindly posting about other people's posts. Forums were built for discussion.

Maybe one of these replies have already changed my perception of continuing. Seriously though, some of you should grow up and not just bash people for opinions.

This is why children shouldn't be allowed to join forums. Next time some of you decide to reply to a post, learn to give advice or recommend things or suggest things and not simply blast someone for their opinion.


Children shouldn't be allowed to join forums? While I agree with this statement, for reasons different than yours, I cannot help but read this in a negative way. First of all, not all children or horrible people that do not listen to others opinions, which was insinuated here. Second of all, assuming they are children because they are giving unhelpful opinions, is ridiculous. You are entitled to your opinion, which I strongly disagree with by the way, but insulting people that are offending you and inferring that children are all immature or have no opinions of their own is rude and shows that you should perhaps practice what you preach.
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#14 Aug 29 2013 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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The game is definitely easier than ffxi. I think you should give the game a try till at least lvl 30. The next coming levels you'll start getting into different things that might get you hooked. And like everyone else has said, the game isn't for everyone.
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#15 Aug 29 2013 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's a shame you won't be staying. I'm not gonna downvote you for your opinion, though.

I've always heard, that there's no way to please everyone all of the time. The same applies to MMOs. Some people just aren't going to like the experience they get from the game, and that's perfectly reasonable. Many people love the game, and will stick with it.

I personally love everything about this game, minus the server overload. I see myself playing this game for quite a long time to come.
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#16 Aug 29 2013 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's a shame you won't be staying. I'm not gonna downvote you for your opinion, though.

I've always heard, that there's no way to please everyone all of the time. The same applies to MMOs. Some people just aren't going to like the experience they get from the game, and that's perfectly reasonable. Many people love the game, and will stick with it.

I personally love everything about this game, minus the server overload. I see myself playing this game for quite a long time to come.



Im with you this game is a blast, so much to do, i plan on playing this game for a long time aswell!
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#17 Aug 29 2013 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Level 15 is just scratching the surface. I'd get yourself at least to Grand Company levels before giving up entirely. Things in XIV will never get XI hard, but not even XI is XI hard any more because that was just too punishing.

About the only genuine hard mode MMO out there any more is EVE.
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#18 Aug 29 2013 at 1:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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A troll post? I just joined ZAM. This is what I'm talking about. People blindly posting about other people's posts. Forums were built for discussion.

Maybe one of these replies have already changed my perception of continuing. Seriously though, some of you should grow up and not just bash people for opinions.

This is why children shouldn't be allowed to join forums. Next time some of you decide to reply to a post, learn to give advice or recommend things or suggest things and not simply blast someone for their opinion.


The game starts out easy, especially the first 15 levels. It was designed for people who've never played an MMO so it's simplistic to begin with. You'll find that the challenge starts to ramp up in the 20s, and if you play poorly, you won't be able to progress through instanced dungeons especially if tanking or healing isn't done well. By the time you reach endgame, there's all the hardcore grinding you can stand for the perfect set of gear if that's the kind of FFXI challenge you're looking for. I'd say give the game more of a chance before giving up, and definitely sign up for some Guildhests.

Edited, Aug 29th 2013 3:15pm by Xoie
#19 Aug 29 2013 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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It amazes me how many people get to 15 and think, oh this is it? 30 is where its at. The game opens up a lot more at 30. And this whole too weak thing. I had a group wipe 5 times on a boss and the timer only had 5 minutes left before we got kicked out. lol@level15
#20 Aug 29 2013 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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AaronLamm wrote:


Just looking to see if other people are experiencing similar feelings.


Nope. I like the game just fine.
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#21 Aug 29 2013 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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i suppose if youre looking for old school ffxi, youre going to be disappointed but thats going to be any mmo. it probably wont be replicated ever again because its simply not fun alot of the time. the login message about not forgetting friends, family, school, or work was a joke - the game was designed to be all consuming. i fricking love being able to login, do 2 quests, queue for dungeon finder, wait a bit and craft til dungeon pops, go do the dungeon and get xp and 1-2 gear pieces, then logout. not to mention the music, graphics, atmosphere - youre just a negative person if you dont feel the excitement this launch week.
#22 Aug 29 2013 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I played FFXI from November 2003 til just a few months ago, and I gotta say, the fact that it's not an insane timesink is the part I like the most. Gone are the days of standing around trying to beat 19 gil sellers at claiming a monster that only spawns once every 16 hours (REAL TIME) gone are the days where you have to bring an npc 20 items that have a .2% drop rate and are over-farmed anyway. Sure, I liked a lot of elements of Final Fantasy 11, but you have to admit, that game was digital sadism half of the time.

Anyone part of a Sky/Dyna shell in the hayday of level 75 cap can "attest" (HAH! Get it?) to this.

Do yourself a favor before you quit, play more of the game. You might find something you like once you leave the starting areas.

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#23 Aug 29 2013 at 3:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think it's way too early to make a judgement. So much of this game remains unrevealed. What I love about what Yoshi is doing is that he's built and launched the game in way that leaves it open to so much growth and expansion.

I get the feeling of accomplishment that came with a success in XI (since it could be so cruel so often).

But there was so much time-sink in that game that it made it impossible to play casually... this game is going to offer fun for both style of player.

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#24 Aug 29 2013 at 3:37 PM Rating: Good
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Level 15 is just scratching the surface. I'd get yourself at least to Grand Company levels before giving up entirely. Things in XIV will never get XI hard, but not even XI is XI hard any more because that was just too punishing.

About the only genuine hard mode MMO out there any more is EVE.

I am defeated near instantly by the dreaded 1017 NM. I'd say that's about as hardmode as it gets Smiley: lol
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#25 Aug 29 2013 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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I can't say I agree. I'm enthralled, especially after getting my new graphics card.

The gameplay is great, the difficulty is just right, There are some fights that take more than one try for me to get right and that's even before level 30. Arcanist fights in particular seem to test my abilities to the limit, as I'm on controller and not quite keen on pet micromanagement yet.

The story has me in deep. I'm anxious to keep pushing through the main storyline as best as I can giving my work schedule.
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