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#1 Aug 30 2013 at 9:45 PM Rating: Default
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Are we still saying "this is a good launch compared to other games"?

Most of my friends still can't log in due to 1017 or other errors at the time of writing this message.

Can we all agree that this launch has been a huge disaster which lost Square Enix tons of money in pre-order/subscription cancellations and refunds?

I really hope it doesn't hurt the game's future/subscription base. I feel like if the game is successful, the classes I want to play will get released faster. But at this rate I'm worried.

Edited, Aug 30th 2013 11:46pm by Killua125
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It's a normal launch compared to other games.

No, it's not going to win the smoothest launch in history prize. That would have been nice.

Still not the worst launch in history, though. It's average for a launch at best - server woes are normal and expected, sad as that is.

Yoshi P's personal apology and length explanation in the last day has gone a long way to bumping them from average to slightly above average, but they'll never claim the #1 spot now. Oh well.
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#3 Aug 30 2013 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Twice as many people playing the game the first day concurrently, and perhaps twice again as many trying to get on, as there were total accounts ever on the old version?

And all without more than an hour of maintenance since official launch, and even that little bit only being the lobby server?

And now we're getting extra on our free month?

Did you really just make a day one 'FFXIV is dieing' thread?
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You do realize a week contains 7 days, right?
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#5vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 9:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Your repsonses are the epitome of the definistion of fanbois.
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This has not been a "normal" launch or "average".


You're right, this is better than average. The servers may be capped but people have been able to play all week long. Maybe not everyone, and God knows this isn't perfect, but the fact is the game is running, and it plays well. The only issue there is, is that there isn't enough room for everyone, which they're fixing.


Edited, Aug 30th 2013 11:00pm by Ryklin
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#7vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The reason it's "running" is that they capped access to servers to a paltry 5,000 - and with no AFK auto boot.
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vahlmyth wrote:
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This has not been a "normal" launch or "average".


You're right, this is better than average. The servers may be capped but people have been able to play all week long. Maybe not everyone, and God knows this isn't perfect, but the fact is the game is running, and it plays well. The only issue these is is that there is t enough room for everyone, which they're fixing.

Edited, Aug 30th 2013 10:59pm by Ryklin


The reason it's "running" is that they capped access to servers to a paltry 5,000 - and with no AFK auto boot.

Of course the servers are "running" - they're not being taxed.

Between all the down down, registration errors, caps on logins/character creations, customer support disasters, etc. this is one of the worst launches.

Maybe in Asia it's normal but by western standards its FUBAR.



I don't think you're remembering correctly. I distinctly remember WoW, GW2, SW:TOR, and Rift, just to name a few, being as bad or worse than this launch for the first couple weeks, if not longer. They all went through similar growing pains. Even though SE has had to cap their servers, they've kept them up with remarkably little downtime, and those who play are playing a very polished and smooth game. All in all, it's one of the better launches I've seen.

Sure, it's not perfect, and there are some bumps in the road. But it's not terrible, and certainly not FUBAR.
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To me, its a good game but I don't know if the launch was good.

I have nothing really to compare it to seeing as i've never played an mmorpg close to launch or at launch I can't say from my experience if this normal.

Yep, it unfortunately did lose them money. Will they miss it? Possibly not if they were expecting much fewer people playing the game. Yoshi-P's apology is only going to do so much--infact many casuals haven't even read it or quit before he apologized. Even though they lost money does not mean the game won't be successful--if ff11 (Which had more flaws than this does imho) is SE's most profitable game this could easily still top it or be one of the more profitable games given enough content to keep people subscribed to play through it all.

I'll be frank, I don't get why its that big of a debate as to whether the launch was successful or not because aside from new content "potentially" getting released sooner- its not going to make any of us richer in any way shape or form at the end of the day.





Edited, Aug 31st 2013 12:15am by Thelastremainingintime
#10vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I played all those games and while they had some problems they did not have problems across the board to the scale that this one has.
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I played all those games and while they had some problems they did not have problems across the board to the scale that this one has.

EVERY aspect of this launch has been horrible: registration, access, server loads, maintenance, customer services. Everything.

Runescape doesn't count.
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#13vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I didn't play Runescape but wasn't that launched in 2001?
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Killua125 wrote:
Are we still saying "this is a good launch compared to other games"?

Most of my friends still can't log in due to 1017 or other errors at the time of writing this message.

Can we all agree that this launch has been a huge disaster which lost Square Enix tons of money in pre-order/subscription cancellations and refunds?

I really hope it doesn't hurt the game's future/subscription base. I feel like if the game is successful, the classes I want to play will get released faster. But at this rate I'm worried.

Edited, Aug 30th 2013 11:46pm by Killua125


I am sure you can find Yoshi P and complain to him personally instead of regurgitating the same complaints on here over and over.
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#15 Aug 30 2013 at 10:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Killua125 wrote:
Can we all agree that this launch has been a huge disaster which lost Square Enix tons of money in pre-order/subscription cancellations and refunds?


According to Yoshi-P they have around 50% more customers than they ever dreamed of having in their best case scenario, so far.

I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure they're putting FFXIV:ARR in the win column.
#16vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow, it's amazing to see people speak of Yoshi so reverently when everything he's said makes it clear he has little to no control over what's going on yet the fanbois/fangirls are convinced he's some sort of demi-god with the power to fix everything.
#17 Aug 30 2013 at 10:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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vahlmyth wrote:
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Killua125 wrote:
Are we still saying "this is a good launch compared to other games"?

Most of my friends still can't log in due to 1017 or other errors at the time of writing this message.

Can we all agree that this launch has been a huge disaster which lost Square Enix tons of money in pre-order/subscription cancellations and refunds?

I really hope it doesn't hurt the game's future/subscription base. I feel like if the game is successful, the classes I want to play will get released faster. But at this rate I'm worried.

Edited, Aug 30th 2013 11:46pm by Killua125


I am sure you can find Yoshi P and complain to him personally instead of regurgitating the same complaints on here over and over.


Wow, it's amazing to see people speak of Yoshi so reverently when everything he's said makes it clear he has little to no control over what's going on yet the fanbois/fangirls are convinced he's some sort of demi-god with the power to fix everything.




I'm sorry but why are you here? Every post you have is bashing the game. Is that the only reason your on these forums? To look for an opportunity to complain?

Yoshida has done more for this game than you have probably accomplished in your entire lifetime. The man took a game that took 5 years to develop and was still complete crap, and turned in to a game that is so desired by its users that there isn't enough room for everyone. (In two years, at that)

His man is the reason anyone has faith in SE again, and has been he most transparent MMO director I have ever seen. The man has been seen in Seattle, presumably to oversee the issues they are having with the NA/EU servers. So what is your problem?

Edited, Aug 30th 2013 11:28pm by Ryklin
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#18vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) MMO profitability is determined by either (a) long term paying subscribers or (b) cash shop.
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vahlmyth wrote:
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It's a normal launch compared to other games.

No, it's not going to win the smoothest launch in history prize. That would have been nice.

Still not the worst launch in history, though. It's average for a launch at best - server woes are normal and expected, sad as that is.

Yoshi P's personal apology and length explanation in the last day has gone a long way to bumping them from average to slightly above average, but they'll never claim the #1 spot now. Oh well.


Your repsonses are the epitome of the definistion of fanbois.

This has not been a "normal" launch or "average".

It has been a spectacular debacle. If this was an American company MMO launch that went this bad, there would be far more angst.

But westerners(especially Americans) are terrified of criticizing anything not white European male based.



Hahahahaha. You cannot possibly be serious. 'Murica's history is all about criticizing and excluding anything that's non-white, European, or male. Civil rights only passed 50 years ago, actually less than that. Title 9 passed roughly 40 years ago or so. Non-Christans are looked at with suspicion, as are non white immigrants. And there was just controversy over the new Fox show, Dad's, because of a apparent 'racist' joke that was aimed at Asians.

I don't want to derail the thread, but your statement about Americans being afraid to criticize anything "non white European male based" is absurd, to say the least.
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#20vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) First, since I can't get into the game that I paid for I find it an acceptable substitute.
#21 Aug 30 2013 at 10:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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vahlmyth wrote:

I played all those games and while they had some problems they did not have problems across the board to the scale that this one has.

EVERY aspect of this launch has been horrible: registration, access, server loads, maintenance, customer services. Everything.



What maintenance? LOTRO was the best launch I've been part of and even they had probably more maintenance than FFXIV.
Registration was easy. Server loads are actually better, because they are capping. If they didn't you would get drops and rubberbanding like you still get in some games that have been running for years. I've never had customer service issues because everything is actually pretty simple and there's no reason to contact them. The reason you are probably having issues is that they are overloaded with people who don't read and assume that SE is personally making things difficult for them.
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#22vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) As a Native American I am continually amazed at the level of white liberal guilt and universal angst for white men. It used to be funny but it's so prevalent/exaggerated that it's just sad now.
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Omg..what a terrible launch ... EVERYONE wants to play it. So many people want to play it, the servers are having heart attacks. Yeah...this was a really bad launch.

/do i really need to point out the sarcasm here?
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#24vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 30 2013 at 10:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If it was just server load then yes it would.
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vahlmyth wrote:
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Omg..what a terrible launch ... EVERYONE wants to play it. So many people want to play it, the servers are having heart attacks. Yeah...this was a really bad launch.

/do i really need to point out the sarcasm here?



If it was just server load then yes it would.

But every single aspect of the launch has been failure.


Oh...do tell. Other than server load problems, please tell me what the failures are, i'd love to hear it.
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My guess is vahlmyth is one of those that decided to enter their code into a new service account and blames SE.
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