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#1 Aug 30 2013 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Just recently got Provoke. Not sure how much enmity it builds. I use it every once in awhile, but I usually just stick to my Flash at the beginnings of fights and then use the Savage Blade combo to maintain single target hate.

Any thoughts...?
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#2 Aug 31 2013 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Provoke builds no enmity. It simply moves you to the top of the enmity list.
So, if you begin combat with Provoke, it's a wasted action, essentially, because there is no enmity built at all.
If you (and others) are registered on a target's hate list, then Provoke moves you to the top of the list. It functions less like the FFXI Provoke and more like the WoW Taunt/Righteous Defense.
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#3 Aug 31 2013 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, Provoke in FFXIV is much more of an emergency "panic button" than something you use as part of a rotation.
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#4 Sep 03 2013 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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weran wrote:
Provoke builds no enmity. It simply moves you to the top of the enmity list.


Thank you for clarification. Any idea how much / little it takes to bump you right back down? For example a hefty Cure or DPS spike shortly after the voke.
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#5 Sep 03 2013 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I personally keep provoke on hand just in case I lose hate on one of the mobs. It's like the "oh crap" ability we get to quickly get hate back.
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#6 Sep 04 2013 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Runbro wrote:
weran wrote:
Provoke builds no enmity. It simply moves you to the top of the enmity list.


Thank you for clarification. Any idea how much / little it takes to bump you right back down? For example a hefty Cure or DPS spike shortly after the voke.


Hard to say, I'll have to be more observant next time I use it. Hopefully you can have a Shield Lob or something ready for use right after Provoke, to really get you ahead.
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#7 Sep 04 2013 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Runbro wrote:
weran wrote:
Provoke builds no enmity. It simply moves you to the top of the enmity list.


Thank you for clarification. Any idea how much / little it takes to bump you right back down? For example a hefty Cure or DPS spike shortly after the voke.


You'll lose hate right after if you don't follow it up with a shield lob or some other hate attack.
#8 Sep 16 2013 at 11:20 AM Rating: Default
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Provoke is exactly like taunt in world of warcraft (at least when I played wow) with a long CD. It just puts you at the top of the threat list and it's up to the tank to keep it there.

It's basically an "oh sh*t" emergency button that's off the GCD, should be saved for emergencies and shouldn't be relied upon or be added as part of your rotation.
#9 Sep 16 2013 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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honestly i've only used provoke when someonehow a boss tpye monster gets away from my grasp(which is why its an oh sh*t button), usually you only worry about this stuff when you have DPS who don't atk what youre killing, or a CON sleeping your unattentive mobs at the time, you really only need flash for mobs who get away, such as heal aggs, which immediately come back to you, and should be put to sleep, plus you have that added blind, which idk to heavily it accomplishes in this game but to me, it seems sleep affects way easier with an opp blinded, its as simple as two steps back and cast, then they're back on you, so long as fools aren't messing that up.

basically keep what you're doing man, you're doing it right, and it seems as though we've all gotten clarification onto provoke's actual effect
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#10 Sep 24 2013 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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Does Provoke only work against people in your group? I ask because several times in FATEs I have tried to use Provoke against the main boss and I have never got it to work. It does not appear to be an outright taunt, in that, I cannot walk up to any old encounter, hit Provoke, and be the main tank. I have yet to use it in a group because I have yet to have a chance. On the very rare occasions that something breaks free it is usually on it's last legs anyway and I just let it die. Before I got Provoke, Shield Lob was more than enough to regain any straggler's attention.
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#11 Sep 25 2013 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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Azoria wrote:
Does Provoke only work against people in your group? I ask because several times in FATEs I have tried to use Provoke against the main boss and I have never got it to work. It does not appear to be an outright taunt, in that, I cannot walk up to any old encounter, hit Provoke, and be the main tank. I have yet to use it in a group because I have yet to have a chance. On the very rare occasions that something breaks free it is usually on it's last legs anyway and I just let it die. Before I got Provoke, Shield Lob was more than enough to regain any straggler's attention.


All FATE bosses are immune to Provoke to prevent you from walking up with it @ 1% hp, hitting Provoke and getting Gold-level participation.

If you notice, when you hit it, it will say IMMUNE next to the ability name by the boss.

Edited, Sep 25th 2013 12:19pm by MidnightPyre
#12 Oct 26 2013 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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You just use Flash instead and receive Gold.
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#13 Dec 01 2013 at 5:48 AM Rating: Good
When in doubt, flash through the whole FATE.
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