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#1 Aug 31 2013 at 8:23 PM Rating: Default
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Staying logged-in is a d1ck move... and you know it. Selfishness son, selfishness.

You know it's true. At least I have Tetris... and college football.
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#2 Aug 31 2013 at 8:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Log out at 11pm log back in 8am play all day. No issues here :)
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Log out at 11pm log back in 8am play all day. No issues here :)


You my friend, are a good egg.

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#4 Aug 31 2013 at 8:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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They should modify the exp bonus you receive from staying in a "resting" area to only come into play if you're logged out. Would provide a bonus for those who don't leave it idling.
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#5 Aug 31 2013 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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They simply need a Idle log out timer. Its a no brainer. There is no reason to not already have one in place.
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Yoshi's recent letter addressed that. It's on the back-burner which makes sense....but I am curious as to why they didn't have this very standard function already in-place.
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Yoshi's recent letter addressed that. It's on the back-burner which makes sense....but I am curious as to why they didn't have this very standard function already in-place.


I think there holding off on it due to them thinking after there fix everyone will be able to log in no problems....Unless they add alot more servers (which there not) this issue will last untill people quit and make room.
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There are always way's around idle kick timers. I personally don't stay logged in but know people that do, just by adding an idle timer is only going to enrage a bigger portion of the player base than the ones that can't get on. It seems that in the early morning it's easier to get online with no que or server full message, try then or keep trying during peek times.
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#10 Aug 31 2013 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
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There are always way's around idle kick timers.


^ This. I know of programs that would break idle. They are not hard to find.
The people it would effect are ps3 users.
SE could place a reason to actually log out, decrease the amount of "rested" exp you gain while being in an inn/sanctuary while logged in. While increasing the amount one could gain while logged out for so long... something along them lines. Make logging out the norm.
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
SillyHawk wrote:
There are always way's around idle kick timers.


^ This. I know of programs that would break idle. They are not hard to find.
The people it would effect are ps3 users.

Go to Inn. Place controller upside down against shelf or sofa so analog stick is pressed. Character runs constantly into the corner of the Inn room.


Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
SE could place a reason to actually log out, decrease the amount of "rested" exp you gain while being in an inn/sanctuary while logged in. While increasing the amount one could gain while logged out for so long... something along them lines. Make logging out the norm.


Even then, I'm sure most afkers would say "Playing with little or no bonus exp or not playing at all? [sarcasm] Tough choice [/sarcasm]".
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#13BobthePukeSlinger, Posted: Aug 31 2013 at 9:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The reason this is an issue is because the developers are retarded and devoid of foresight and live in an alternate timeline where the world is stuck in 2002.
#14Prophet vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 31 2013 at 9:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If they did they'd have to have a working queue system (which they don't) and then if they did have that it would show how horribly undersized their infrastructure is.
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BobthePukeSlinger wrote:
The reason this is an issue is because the developers are retarded and devoid of foresight and live in an alternate timeline where the world is stuck in 2002.


You obviously have no idea on the whole development process of this game or any other game, **** even web site development would escape you. Putting the blame on the developers is just bad form. As a software/web developer it's not our idea on how the game/site is built. This comes from the higher up, who put faith in us as developers to accomplish what they are asking us to do. Obviously the developers did what they were asked to do, other wise there would be tons of patches/fixes thrown into the game.

Stop and think before you go off on a tangent only to make yourself look like a fool.
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BobthePukeSlinger wrote:
The reason this is an issue is because the developers are retarded and devoid of foresight and live in an alternate timeline where the world is stuck in 2002.


This is what Doc Brown was talking about in Back to the Future when he said, "Obviously the time continuum has been disrupted, creating a new temporal event sequence resulting in this alternate reality." So basically for SE, "only chance to repair the present is in the past, at the point where the time line skewed into this tangent."

Simple enough. Who's got a Delorean or train with a flux capacitor?
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#18Prophet vahlmyth, Posted: Aug 31 2013 at 9:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's obvious that the management/fiscal folks at SE either had (a) no faith in the project or (b) the project's business plan was so weak that the game never got anywhere near adequate resources/funding.
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
SillyHawk wrote:
There are always way's around idle kick timers.


^ This. I know of programs that would break idle. They are not hard to find.
The people it would effect are ps3 users.
SE could place a reason to actually log out, decrease the amount of "rested" exp you gain while being in an inn/sanctuary while logged in. While increasing the amount one could gain while logged out for so long... something along them lines. Make logging out the norm.



Personally I think they should make rested EXP available only when you're logged out. I see no reason standing around for hours on end in a town should give a player benefits of any kind. Logging out in an Inn should be the only way to get it.

Edited, Aug 31st 2013 11:41pm by Tubrudi
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#20 Sep 01 2013 at 12:41 AM Rating: Good
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I think they should add a FATE with NPC's named BobThePukeSlinger and Prophet Vahlmyth. Their NPC's would run in circles complaining and your goal is to do specific emotes like /taunt, /laugh, /cry etc. If enough people emote at them a rage meter above their heads will fill up at which point their heads explode and everyone gets xp and seals.

Realistically though, we should feel bad for them. Especially Bob. That level of animosity for people you don't even know is pretty unhealthy. You're going to get an aneurysm or give yourself cancer or something. Maybe you should settle down, put on your big boy PJ's and try to get some sleep. We all know your just cranky because you missed your nap.

Edited, Sep 1st 2013 2:42am by ChaChaJaJa

Edited, Sep 1st 2013 3:17am by ChaChaJaJa
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#21 Sep 01 2013 at 1:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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They simply need a Idle log out timer. Its a no brainer. There is no reason to not already have one in place.


As in FFXI we could stay logged in as long as we wanted, mostly to sell items from our own inventory. It would seem they left this ability in game for a reason and maybe it is going to come into play at some point, To change this would require much more than flipping a switch and would take a lot longer than just fixing what is broken, it's probably is a lot simpler to just wait until the beginning of the week when they have stated the fix would be implemented.
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#22 Sep 01 2013 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent
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TheOneFin wrote:
Staying logged-in is a d1ck move... and you know it. Selfishness son, selfishness.

You know it's true. At least I have Tetris... and college football.

I would agree but ive changed my mind, 10 hours to log in, Im staying afk logged on all weekend.
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Yes, it's a **** move, but i havent been able to play for more than an hour since last wednesday. Why? Because no one logged out to make room. I doubt there would even be a problem if everyone simply logged out of the game.

I finally got in yesterday night before i called it a night. No way i'm going to play the login lottery again in the morning.

I'd rather be part of the problem than not be able to play the game at all.
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honestly I've not had any login problems until this weekend, I can't log in now, but in my head I'm still farming mythical tomestones in Amdpor Keep xD
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I do not think this "current wold is full try again " nonsense has anything to do with the actual amount of people on a world. I've gotten the message several times right after I hit the start button and before any of the world information populates. How can it register my information before I have picked a world to load a character from? Unless it is a blanket mechanic identifying all worlds as being full, which begs the question: how many people are on a server? There aren't that many NA/EU players to fill every single world. The population caps must be really low.

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SistinasAria wrote:
The population caps must be really low.


5000 for each server. After that the server just refuses the connection and you get the 1017 error.

But there is also the log in server that handles every server's characters, so that's the one that is having issues when you get errors right when pressing start and trying to get the server list. It handles traffic of all the players, not just those on a single server.
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I do not think this "current wold is full try again " nonsense has anything to do with the actual amount of people on a world. I've gotten the message several times right after I hit the start button and before any of the world information populates. How can it register my information before I have picked a world to load a character from?


FFXIV probably connects you to the lobby server after you select 'start'. You enter the lobby and select your world server from there.
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
SillyHawk wrote:
There are always way's around idle kick timers.


^ This. I know of programs that would break idle. They are not hard to find.
The people it would effect are ps3 users.
SE could place a reason to actually log out, decrease the amount of "rested" exp you gain while being in an inn/sanctuary while logged in. While increasing the amount one could gain while logged out for so long... something along them lines. Make logging out the norm.


Cant you tape down the analog stick so you would run in circles in the inn?
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
SillyHawk wrote:
There are always way's around idle kick timers.


^ This. I know of programs that would break idle. They are not hard to find.
The people it would effect are ps3 users.
SE could place a reason to actually log out, decrease the amount of "rested" exp you gain while being in an inn/sanctuary while logged in. While increasing the amount one could gain while logged out for so long... something along them lines. Make logging out the norm.


Cant you tape down the analog stick so you would run in circles in the inn?

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TheOneFin wrote:
Staying logged-in is a d1ck move... and you know it. Selfishness son, selfishness.

You know it's true. At least I have Tetris... and college football.


How many of these fking posts do we need? QQ I cant log in.... please log out so I can play.... SE fix the servers..... Jesus go outside, read, give yourself a stranger.. something for the love of glob
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ShadowofaDoubt wrote:
TheOneFin wrote:
Staying logged-in is a d1ck move... and you know it. Selfishness son, selfishness.

You know it's true. At least I have Tetris... and college football.

I would agree but ive changed my mind, 10 hours to log in, Im staying afk logged on all weekend.


You can't be serious... you're doing something wrong if if took you or takes you or anyone that long to log in. I don't always get in right away but 10 hours??? Try staying at your computer for 15-20 mins you'll get in. You can't try 4 or 5 times then get up and leave for a while then try again later an expect to get in. You have to stay and spam it order to get in until they fix this problem.


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Looking4u wrote:
ShadowofaDoubt wrote:
TheOneFin wrote:
Staying logged-in is a d1ck move... and you know it. Selfishness son, selfishness.

You know it's true. At least I have Tetris... and college football.

I would agree but ive changed my mind, 10 hours to log in, Im staying afk logged on all weekend.


You can't be serious... you're doing something wrong if if took you or takes you or anyone that long to log in. I don't always get in right away but 10 hours??? Try staying at your computer for 15-20 mins you'll get in. You can't try 4 or 5 times then get up and leave for a while then try again later an expect to get in. You have to stay and spam it order to get in until they fix this problem.



Some people have really bad luck. I've been trying pretty steadily for about 45 minutes now with no luck. I had a few 2002 errors thrown in for fun and now I'm back to the server list not loading. Not really trying to make a point here, but I don't think it's fair to assume that anyone can get in within 15-20 minutes of spamming if they really wanted to.

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mabiche wrote:
Looking4u wrote:
ShadowofaDoubt wrote:
TheOneFin wrote:
Staying logged-in is a d1ck move... and you know it. Selfishness son, selfishness.

You know it's true. At least I have Tetris... and college football.

I would agree but ive changed my mind, 10 hours to log in, Im staying afk logged on all weekend.


You can't be serious... you're doing something wrong if if took you or takes you or anyone that long to log in. I don't always get in right away but 10 hours??? Try staying at your computer for 15-20 mins you'll get in. You can't try 4 or 5 times then get up and leave for a while then try again later an expect to get in. You have to stay and spam it order to get in until they fix this problem.



Some people have really bad luck. I've been trying pretty steadily for about 45 minutes now with no luck. I had a few 2002 errors thrown in for fun and now I'm back to the server list not loading. Not really trying to make a point here, but I don't think it's fair to assume that anyone can get in within 15-20 minutes of spamming if they really wanted to.



I wonder if any of you rocket scientists have considered the idea that although all servers are jammed, some probably contain a larger number of characters than others, and therefore it's harder to get onto certain servers than others. Christ almighty. You don't need a degree in computer science to realize that certain worlds might be more overcrowded than others. Just an IQ above 60....

That being said- can't you whiny @#%^s just go away for 2 more days until they plug in the extra servers? Please? Or do we have to listen to the nonstop infantile whining until baby gets his baba. We get it, they @#%^ed up. If you're that ******* don't play the game. But no amount of rage and venom on a fan website will change how fast they get those servers plugged in, and frankly 95% of the people here give exactly 0 @#%^s about the fact that you're upset.



Edited, Sep 1st 2013 11:44am by ChaChaJaJa
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#38TheOneFin, Posted: Sep 01 2013 at 10:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Word is bond, son. Either way, if you stay logged-in all day because you're afraid of not getting in later... you're a PAB. Selfishness, *****. Spin it any way you'd like. Rate me to sub-sub-sub-sub default. You know its true. Lame as ****, son.
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TheOneFin wrote:
Word is bond, son. Either way, if you stay logged-in all day because you're afraid of not getting in later... you're a PAB. Selfishness, *****. Spin it any way you'd like. Rate me to sub-sub-sub-sub default. You know its true. Lame as ****, son.



Why are you calling everyone 'son'?
Unless of course you mean 'sun' because we brighten up your day, then I understand.
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ChaChaJaJa wrote:
mabiche wrote:
Looking4u wrote:
ShadowofaDoubt wrote:
TheOneFin wrote:
Staying logged-in is a d1ck move... and you know it. Selfishness son, selfishness.

You know it's true. At least I have Tetris... and college football.

I would agree but ive changed my mind, 10 hours to log in, Im staying afk logged on all weekend.


You can't be serious... you're doing something wrong if if took you or takes you or anyone that long to log in. I don't always get in right away but 10 hours??? Try staying at your computer for 15-20 mins you'll get in. You can't try 4 or 5 times then get up and leave for a while then try again later an expect to get in. You have to stay and spam it order to get in until they fix this problem.



Some people have really bad luck. I've been trying pretty steadily for about 45 minutes now with no luck. I had a few 2002 errors thrown in for fun and now I'm back to the server list not loading. Not really trying to make a point here, but I don't think it's fair to assume that anyone can get in within 15-20 minutes of spamming if they really wanted to.



I wonder if any of you rocket scientists have considered the idea that although all servers are jammed, some probably contain a larger number of characters than others, and therefore it's harder to get onto certain servers than others. Christ almighty. You don't need a degree in computer science to realize that certain worlds might be more overcrowded than others. Just an IQ above 60....

That being said- can't you whiny @#%^s just go away for 2 more days until they plug in the extra servers? Please? Or do we have to listen to the nonstop infantile whining until baby gets his baba. We get it, they @#%^ed up. If you're that ******* don't play the game. But no amount of rage and venom on a fan website will change how fast they get those servers plugged in, and frankly 95% of the people here give exactly 0 @#%^s about the fact that you're upset.



Edited, Sep 1st 2013 11:44am by ChaChaJaJa


Panties in a twist much?

I am on a legacy server. I realize they are stuffed to the brim. I also understand it's a holiday weekend. I wasn't complaining at all, just stating that people aren't getting in within 30 minutes of spamming. Learn to read you ****.
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#41TheOneFin, Posted: Sep 01 2013 at 10:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yea yea yea yo. Keep it real, son. Calling people "son" just sounds better. It doesn't have the same affect if I was like... "Word is bond, daughter." Or like... "I'll mess you up daughter. If you don't log-out when you're done with the game I'll beat that ***, daughter."
#42TheOneFin, Posted: Sep 01 2013 at 10:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thanks brosef. It's these kinds of rhymes that make me fat stacks, son. Keep it real with the deal... cuz when it comes to girth, its like your giving child-birth...
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#44TheOneFin, Posted: Sep 01 2013 at 10:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ha ha no doubt that I am. But you gotta do better than that.
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Have not logged out ever, no issues here.
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They simply need a Idle log out timer. Its a no brainer. There is no reason to not already have one in place.


Exactly, I'd say if someone is idle 30 mins boot 'em.


It would alleviate a lot of login issues by simply booting inactive characters.


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The population caps must be really low.


5000 for each server. After that the server just refuses the connection and you get the 1017 error.

But there is also the log in server that handles every server's characters, so that's the one that is having issues when you get errors right when pressing start and trying to get the server list. It handles traffic of all the players, not just those on a single server.


Are they running this game on a 4 year old laptop? 5000 per server lol

I'm pretty sure the stormrage server in wow has around 20k characters (and is old as dirt) and these guys can do 5000....what a joke.

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The idle timer won't work since they have an auto-run feature. All you would need to do is go into the inn and auto-run against a wall since hitting a wall doesn't stop movement.

Edit: Never mind, I see two other people already thought of the same exact thing as me. If three people in this thread alone thought up the very same thing many others will too, and just think how creative and out-of-the-box others will get when desperation sets in and they have to find a way around the idle-timer.

Edited, Sep 1st 2013 2:32pm by OhimeKowai
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flashbolt wrote:
I'm pretty sure the stormrage server in wow has around 20k characters (and is old as dirt) and these guys can do 5000....what a joke.


Pretty sure they said the issues wasn't that there were 5000 total, but that everyone was in a few areas on the server causing the overloads.
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#51 Sep 01 2013 at 12:44 PM Rating: Default
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OhimeKowai wrote:
The idle timer won't work since they have an auto-run feature. All you would need to do is go into the inn and auto-run against a wall since hitting a wall doesn't stop movement.

Edit: Never mind, I see two other people already thought of the same exact thing as me. If three people in this thread alone thought up the very same thing many others will too, and just think how creative and out-of-the-box others will get when desperation sets in and they have to find a way around the idle-timer.

Edited, Sep 1st 2013 2:32pm by OhimeKowai



Idle timers don't depend on if your character is actually moving but rather if you are pushing buttons.


So simply running into a wall with autorun won't prevent you from logging out.

I mean, I'm being slightly presumptuous. If Blizzard, the folks that made SWToR, and a whole slew of other MMO's could figure it out, so can SE.

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