huge jerkFollow

Going to assume you are the one who was doing the douchery moves. GG.
That other was right, I mean look..you came to a forum to post about it. I think calling someone out on the forums is a No No.
So yea.. GG.

So is Scad Fancyman the jerk? Loses a loot roll and gets all butt hurt over it?

Scad does come off as a bit of a crybaby. First he complains that there isn't a stat on the items that there is, then he just makes a fool of himself by continuing to argue that point and saying he's 'not' trying to argue it.

I foresee a lot of this in the future and it's kind of sad, because these growing pains are something that WoW had spent the last decade overcoming. SE should have a good idea out of the gate on how to build a proper loot roll system.

I got the feeling that Holy Grail was the guy who rolled need on stuff just because he could, and Scad was giving him flack for it. After all, it's Holy Grail saying stuff like how the system itself is douchey, I don't like being called a douche, etc.

It looks to me like Holy Grail was the healer, Scad was SMN, and Holy Grail needed on a piece of mage gear that was better suited to a nuker than a healer. In that situation, if I were the healer, I would probably roll Greed rather than Need. But I don't expect random people I group with through Duty Finder to be as considerate.

Scad comes across as petty.

It's funny, cause it looks to me like Scad is the poster. He came here to rat out the "jerk" Holy Grail, but he himself is the one who was acting like a Jerk. Since Scad is the one referred to as You in the logs (for the rolls).

Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 11:39am by TirithRR

Loot drama made up 75% of FFXI endgame too, prior to the adjustments that came about with Abyssea. (Things are a lot better now.)

We came up with elaborate lists and used FFDKP to keep things in order. One Xarcabard, I was third in line for Duelist Chapeau. Two dropped. #1 and #2 in line had not shown up that run, and they knew it'd be another month before we did Xarc again. So #3 (me) and #4 both got our hats.

Even though that was well within the established rules, there was a lot of unhappiness when they heard that two hats dropped on the run they couldn't make. (With nine Dynamis zones and the ability to only go twice a week, doing a full rotation meant a four week wait in between zones, which kind of sucked but that's SE's fault. That, and it was three hour long run for most zones so.... yeah. Twice a week was probably a good idea.)

That's not even touching on the people who ninja lotted and subsequently had to be kicked out from the linkshell.

Just to clear something up in case the OP missed it: You're expected to do the dungeons more than once. You're expected to grind the heck out of them. You'll have plenty of opportunity to get gear. It's not like a one chance then it's gone forever thing.

So, anyone can lot on anything because there's always another chance.

As a rogue in wow, i lost out on plenty of loot to druid tanks, as a DK tank I lost out on plenty of loot to plate dps.

I was kicked from a group in cata while on my Lock cause I won a roll on a piece of caster dps gear loot and the mage in the group was trying to farm it. He wanted me to just give it to him cause it was his hundredth time running the dungeon.

I saw a guy quit playing wow cause his staff didn't drop off the curator his first time running the raid.

You want to get all the drops, find a group of friends to farm with, if your going to pug, don't expect everyone to adhere to some form of logic that you think is fair.

If you don't plan on running the **** out of dungeons, then MMO's are probably not the game for you.

Play nicely children!
And really this is FFXIV who gives a **** who played more WoW?
I played it on and off and found it cartoonish, easy and somewhat boring,
But then I'm a vet of FFXI where you really had to suffer! because Tanaka said so!

And yet I loved it... a lot of stuff was really challenging, and I worked hard and appreciated the challenge. So far FFXIV seems pretty... easy. At least comparatively. Maybe I just haven't gotten that far into it yet. There was one part of one dungeon that I really enjoyed (the slime and bomb fight.)

And also a bright side, the more people that have it, the less competition he'll have the next time. :)