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#1 Sep 02 2013 at 7:03 PM Rating: Excellent
It means the world is full.

It means that tens of thousands of people are playing with no problems and refuse to log out.

Everyone is dealing with it at some point.

Creating 1,000,000 threads about SE needing to hurry up and "fix" too many people loving the game is kind silly.

Believe it or not there IS a limit to what technology can do.

In the meantime, deal with it. Like I am now, instead of complaining. Please. It is getting really old.

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#2 Sep 02 2013 at 7:05 PM Rating: Default
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So this thread isn't complaining? Sure sounds like it.
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Congratulations! You just created the 1,000,001 thread about 1017 Smiley: nod
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#4 Sep 02 2013 at 7:09 PM Rating: Excellent
I am not complaining about 1017. It happens, I don't care I do something else while attempting to log back on. This is me asking people to stop spamming the forums with the same thing. Simple.
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#5 Sep 02 2013 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
I'm glad an Admin came on to back some of us up here. Thank you State
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StateAlchemist, Om nom nom... wrote:
I am not complaining about 1017. It happens, I don't care I do something else while attempting to log back on. This is me asking people to stop spamming the forums with the same thing. Simple.

Lead by example then. Start a thread about something else instead of yet another thread complaining about the complaint threads.
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#7 Sep 02 2013 at 7:24 PM Rating: Default
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StateAlchemist, Om nom nom... wrote:
I am not complaining about 1017. It happens, I don't care I do something else while attempting to log back on. This is me asking people to stop spamming the forums with the same thing. Simple.

Lead by example then. Start a thread about something else instead of yet another thread complaining about the complaint threads.


You could try not talking back to admins and instead heading his warning... Consequences do tend to follow those that defy them.
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#8 Sep 02 2013 at 7:31 PM Rating: Excellent
What people fail to realize is by spamming threads about the same topic, you push off the main page other peoples posts.
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#9 Sep 02 2013 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
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My biggest pet peeve of the moment is how everyone is saying this is a "failed launch".

On the contrary! Its perhaps the most successful MMO launch ever!! The only reason there are problems is because of its success.

The servers are rock solid, no bugs, no issues, when I login, I'm fine. 90000 occasionally but even that error is because of the server load.

Wednesday is coming, all will be fixed.
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#10 Sep 02 2013 at 7:51 PM Rating: Default
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On the contrary! Its perhaps the most successful MMO launch ever!! The only reason there are problems is because of its success.

The servers are rock solid, no bugs, no issues, when I login, I'm fine. 90000 occasionally but even that error is because of the server load.

Wednesday is coming, all will be fixed.


This gave me a good laugh. It's nice you can see it all doe-eyed this way :)

Yes the only reason there are problems is because of their continued success. The login problem isn't indicative of any other issues, and on Wednesday everything will be fixed!
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This is their second launch, they should have known their own server limits and have had figured this out prior to launch. I havent been able to login for 3 days so meh.

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Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 10:02pm by aadrenry
#12 Sep 02 2013 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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This is their second launch, they should have known their own server limits and have had figured this out prior to launch. I havent been able to login for 3 days so meh.

"The World is currently full. Please click alot of buttons again and again."

Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 10:02pm by aadrenry


Go launch an MMO of your own and tell us that. You're the expert, after all.
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#13 Sep 02 2013 at 8:11 PM Rating: Default
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and we are telling you no

if ya don't like it, close your eyes

every one of us has a right to voice our opinion

if SE had given them what they paid for, they would have nothing to complain about

how hold your breath like a good little blue boy and let the grown ups be
#14 Sep 02 2013 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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and we are telling you no

if ya don't like it, close your eyes

every one of us has a right to voice our opinion

if SE had given them what they paid for, they would have nothing to complain about

how hold your breath like a good little blue boy and let the grown ups be


An Admin, as in, someone bigger and mightier than you, has asked that it be stopped. And you're going to tell him no? He, as we all, are not asking much, just that instead of creating a new thread ever few seconds about 1017, why not post in one of the existing ones? You're not telling anyone anything new, defeating the purpose of threads and pushing good worthwhile threads off to the side. For what? So you can get your half second of spotlight before you're sub-defaulted because you just reitterated the same - thing - everyone - else - already - said - a - DOZEN - times? And you want to tell me you're an adult?

Let me also direct you to the forum rules -- I highly suggest you familiarize yourself with them before slinging insults, "little blue boy", while us "grown ups" discuss things.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 10:17pm by darexius2010
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#16 Sep 02 2013 at 8:19 PM Rating: Default
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My biggest pet peeve of the moment is how everyone is saying this is a "failed launch".

On the contrary! Its perhaps the most successful MMO launch ever!! The only reason there are problems is because of its success.

The servers are rock solid, no bugs, no issues, when I login, I'm fine. 90000 occasionally but even that error is because of the server load.

Wednesday is coming, all will be fixed.



ya...that works until you run into the part that they sold twice as many games to people who have a legal right to expect to be able to play...then they had room for...

go figure, if they planned on 400k players, they should not have sold 1.5 million games...don't insult us with your cheese logic ok? its got holes big enough to fly a 767 through

FFXIV will go down as one of the worst launches I have ever seen since BattleCruiser 3000AD because they took 11 days to respond, Tuesday they are "supposed" to open new servers, so we will see.. You don't leave a million paying customers in the dark for 2 weeks, they should have overnighted a million dollars of hardware to get this fixed before launch date. The result will be reflected in our lack of confidence in SE. This is one of a few left in this gender that is still pay to play. This will hurt, but its anyones guess how much.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 10:41pm by pwrslm
#17 Sep 02 2013 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
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This is not beta anymore..... se release a product that is failing ..... how did they not know how many total copies were purchased..... they handed out 1000 tickets for 700 seats..... very very poor customer service. People deserve to complain... if u have something else to do... good for you.... alot of people have been waiting a long time for this and se is blowing it


Again, launch an MMO and tell us that again. Do you know how many people pre-ordered and cancelled just for the EA and free game time? Do you know what the statistics looked like? Are you an industry leading expert having launched a successful AAA MMO? I think not. It's absolutely baffling to me that all of you want to argue with an administrator. I mean, why? What are you getting out of it? What are you getting out of posts that are nothing more than "RAAAWR WE BE MAD MASSES SE FAIL"? Do you have nothing else in your life that is eating at you besides a video game? I mean, I'm more worried about the weather in Phoenix tomorrow than I am whether I can log in to a game.

Like it's been said many many times, it isn't the fact that people are complaining, it's how they're complaining. Name calling, unwarranted comments, claiming to be adult-like but then needlessly bashing others out of turn, making claims of grandeur like they can personally do better when they themselves know that isn't true.

You're all unhappy. We get it.
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#18 Sep 02 2013 at 8:24 PM Rating: Good
pwrslm wrote:
rikkuotaku wrote:
My biggest pet peeve of the moment is how everyone is saying this is a "failed launch".

On the contrary! Its perhaps the most successful MMO launch ever!! The only reason there are problems is because of its success.

The servers are rock solid, no bugs, no issues, when I login, I'm fine. 90000 occasionally but even that error is because of the server load.

Wednesday is coming, all will be fixed.



ya...that works until you run into the part that they sold twice as many games to people who have a legal right to expect to be able to play...then they had room for...

go figure, if they planned on 400k players, they should not have sold 1.5 million games...don't insult us with your cheese logic ok? its got holes big enough to fly a 767 through

FFXIV will truly go down as one of the worst launches I have ever seen since BattleCruiser 3000AD. You don't leave a million paying customers in the dark for 2 weeks, they should have overnighted a million dollars of hardware to get this fixed before launch date. The result will be reflected in our lack of confidence in SE. This is one of a few left in this gender that is still pay to play. This will hurt, but its anyones guess how much.


You have absolutely no 'legal' right to play. The software disc you purchased installed a perfectly good and working launcher whose purpose is to get you into a game world that SE can have running or not on a whim without consulting you or anyone else. If you installed that software, created an account, and ever tried to launch the game, you accepted the EULA and TOS stating such.
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#19 Sep 02 2013 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
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It would be nice if I didn't get 90000ed every day when attempting to zone and then have to spend 8 hours a day spamming the A button. Then when I do get into a queue it just tells me that the world is full or 10102s me anyway. Lets not even mention all the 2002s and 6100somethings i get on the login screen and the unable to retrieve server lists. If nothings broken then certainly some stuff isn't working properly.
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#20 Sep 02 2013 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
It's absolutely baffling to me that all of you want to argue with an administrator. I mean, why? What are you getting out of it? What are you getting out of posts that are nothing more than "RAAAWR WE BE MAD MASSES SE FAIL"? Do you have nothing else in your life that is eating at you besides a video game?


You're unhappy. We get it. Smiley: lol
#21 Sep 02 2013 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
It's absolutely baffling to me that all of you want to argue with an administrator. I mean, why? What are you getting out of it? What are you getting out of posts that are nothing more than "RAAAWR WE BE MAD MASSES SE FAIL"? Do you have nothing else in your life that is eating at you besides a video game?


You're unhappy. We get it. Smiley: lol


Smiley: rolleyes I suppose I'm letting it get to me again.

I believe I best said it in this way:

darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Nobody says you don't have the right. You absolutely do have the right.

Let me ask you this. If you are in a crowd of 10 people and waiting at a bar. You're told only 1 can come in and you don't know when people will start leaving so you can get your turn. Nobody is really drinking. Everyone is just sitting there at the bar doing nothing. You stay silent but 7 of the 9 of you start complaining. And complaining. And complaining. Over. And over. Nobody is talking to the bouncer. They are directing it at you and the other person. So you step aside and say, "Hey bud, this place is great. You'll really like it here".

So the others come up and say, "@#%^ YOU @#%^! THIS PLACE @#%^ING SUCKS AND EVERYONE STANDING IN LINE IS A TOTAL IDIOT. IF YOU DONT LEAVE NOW YOU'RE A @#%^ING MORON. @#%^ PONIES AND sh*t YO!"

So you keep on talking to the other guy. Then a whole different set of people step between you and your calm conversation and start doing the same thing. Their only purpose is to cause strife.

Nobody is talking to the bouncer. They're just turning it towards the crowd and trying to incite riot.

Would you rather have that happen? Or would you rather sit with your friend and have a friendly conversation while you wait? Would you deck everyone speaking? Would you leave?

What kind of person are you?

Nobody wants to be miserable in life. ZAM isn't the reason the errors are happening. The community wasn't founded on strife. A bunch of people got together that like to play games. That's what we all are here. Do you want an entire board drowned out in nothing but chaos because you have an opinion? Or do you want to have a pleasant time waiting for things to resolve themselves (things outside your control), have fun and interesting conversation with others like you in the same situation you are in, and enjoy the game when things settle down?

Nobody wants to be miserable and that includes you. You and you alone are in control of your own reactions and your own feelings. Not SE. Not ZAM. Not some dude making long posts about emo stuff. I want to be happy in life and a game isn't going to affect that. Don't let it do the same to you. You can contribute to positive banter just as well as negative banter. At the end of the day you will know that you aren't alone and that you made someone else feel better about a pain you both share equally.



Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 10:42pm by darexius2010
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#23 Sep 02 2013 at 8:46 PM Rating: Default
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"You have absolutely no 'legal' right to play"

You should keep your mouth shut when you don't have any clue about what you are talking about. When I payed my money for this game, I have a legal right to expect to be able to log in, and play the game, just like they advertise that I can. You can sit their with your b im bo opinion up your nose all day, and my legal right will never change.
#24 Sep 02 2013 at 8:49 PM Rating: Default
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StateAlchemist, Om nom nom... wrote:
It means the world is full.

It means that tens of thousands of people are playing with no problems and refuse to log out.

Everyone is dealing with it at some point.

Creating 1,000,000 threads about SE needing to hurry up and "fix" too many people loving the game is kind silly.

Believe it or not there IS a limit to what technology can do.

In the meantime, deal with it. Like I am now, instead of complaining. Please. It is getting really old.

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[on May 5, 2013, Eve Online claimed a new record for the maximum number of simultaneous pilots online with 65,303 concurrent accounts logged on to the same server at the same time.


But that requires a company to actually want to shell out the money to provide server space for anything remotely close to the amount of people that signed up to play their game, not what they expect to be playing 6 months after launch. Se knew they were screwed and instead of throwing money at it they decided to say FUFUFU and let us deal with it. It's good to know sooner than later that the PR Jesus Yoshi P was more a marketing gimmick than anything.
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#26 Sep 02 2013 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
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"You have absolutely no 'legal' right to play"

You should keep your mouth shut when you don't have any clue about what you are talking about. When I payed my money for this game, I have a legal right to expect to be able to log in, and play the game, just like they advertise that I can. You can sit their with your b im bo opinion up your nose all day, and my legal right will never change.



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I can keep going if you'd like. You've lost this argument. You have no legal right to play this game at all. SE can terminate your ability to play it and you have no recourse at all whatsoever. You will not get a refund. You will not be able to sue them. You will do nothing because you can't do anything. And there isn't a thing you can do about it.

So take your big boy attitude and do something else to someone else about it, or come to me personally and shut my mouth. Barring the fact that you can't and won't for reasons outside of your control, I suggest you grow up, do something else, or otherwise calm down on a public forum that is not yours and that you have absolutely no right to, no more than I do, before you cross a line and get yourself muted.
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On May 5, 2013, Eve Online claimed a new record for the maximum number of simultaneous pilots online with 65,303 concurrent accounts logged on to the same server at the same time.


That's nice, DoTA 2 generally has around 300K concurrent users.

How is that relevant to FFXIV? Being that they're different games altogether?

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#28 Sep 02 2013 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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StateAlchemist, Om nom nom... wrote:
It means the world is full.

It means that tens of thousands of people are playing with no problems and refuse to log out.

Everyone is dealing with it at some point.

Creating 1,000,000 threads about SE needing to hurry up and "fix" too many people loving the game is kind silly.

Believe it or not there IS a limit to what technology can do.

In the meantime, deal with it. Like I am now, instead of complaining. Please. It is getting really old.

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On May 5, 2013, Eve Online claimed a new record for the maximum number of simultaneous pilots online with 65,303 concurrent accounts logged on to the same server at the same time.


The game was also designed for this... FFXIV wasn't, nor should it be. That's comparing apples and oranges -- Two completely different games in every single way.
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:

The game was also designed for this... FFXIV wasn't, nor should it be. That's comparing apples and oranges -- Two completely different games in every single way.


Does corporate bunghole taste good?
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#30 Sep 02 2013 at 8:58 PM Rating: Excellent
No one reads Terms and Conditions. It isn't surprising when people complain about things they agreed to. Gives me a good chuckle though. Nice one darexius.
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#31 Sep 02 2013 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:

The game was also designed for this... FFXIV wasn't, nor should it be. That's comparing apples and oranges -- Two completely different games in every single way.


Does corporate bunghole taste good?


Are you saying EVE and FFXIV have the exact same architecture and are built to serve the exact same gaming environment with the exact same in-game conditions?
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#32 Sep 02 2013 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
StateAlchemist, Om nom nom... wrote:
No one reads Terms and Conditions. It isn't surprising when people complain about things they agreed to. Gives me a good chuckle though. Nice one darexius.


Facts are facts, and the fact is that when I bought the game I bought the launcher, just like everyone else did. I can keep that installed and as long as the launcher installs and starts it's working as intended. The rest of the service is entirely in SE's hands. They can close this game down tomorrow and not one person can do a thing about it.
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Wanted to throw my support behind the OP on this one.

As someone who has been able to get on the game every day, and play excessively, since launch...yes its a total pain.

However. Issue was addressed, tomorrow evening they will attempt a physical hardware fix (and I think increasing maximum connections to current servers)

No need to complain anymore...it wasn't that horrible...for a popular mmorpg it wasn't half bad.

No the launch wasn't a failure. The game itself runs flawlessly without bugs (maybe a few for all I know nothing remotely major though)

All the issues that have happened since EA are because of the games success too...which is good.

Glad this website is keeping its forums clean. Theres no point in letting a new thread every 5min about this issue pop up when the issue has been addressed by SE and the fix is tomorrow. Be patient.

Also, unless this is your first mmorpg. You should really wait at least a week before jumping into a new game, unless your OK with possible log in issues, lag, and possible bugs. There is no reason why a mmo vet should be complaining about the issues this game had. You know what to expect. Don't pretend that "oh its 2013 and technical issues don't exist anymore"

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So to stop people from complaining.. you make a thread complaining.. about complaining? alrighty then lemme know how that works for you. It's not like this is the internet and people will complain even more to troll but k. If as a admin it bothers you said complaint posts are crowding the forums.. be a admin and delete them? Just a thought.
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#37 Sep 02 2013 at 9:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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So to stop people from complaining.. you make a thread complaining.. about complaining? alrighty then lemme know how that works for you. It's not like this is the internet and people will complain even more to troll but k. If as a admin it bothers you said complaint posts are crowding the forums.. be a admin and delete them? Just a thought.


I am simply asking nicely for people to stop. Complain all you want. Just do it all in one thread. It's that easy.
And yes I posted a thread because I am not going to sit here and PM every single person. Work smarter, not harder.
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Ah, the old 'complaining about the complainers by making a complaint thread asking them to stop complaining' trick. This always worked before, brilliant idea!!
#39 Sep 02 2013 at 9:37 PM Rating: Excellent
Well I could just sticky a 1017 thread and lock anything else that talks about it elsewhere. But see that wouldn't fit my personality.

Also, anyone watch episode 21 of attack on titan? Why is this anime so good?!
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Well I could just sticky a 1017 thread and lock anything else that talks about it elsewhere. But see that wouldn't fit my personality.


Well, that would be far more efficient than this.
#41 Sep 02 2013 at 9:42 PM Rating: Excellent
Yeah, it would. But again. I would rather people just cool their heels. Again, I have no problem with people venting their anger, as long as they don't go crazy with threads. Other topics deserve to be on page 1 as much as 1017 does. This is of course a common problem in any major forum, but I can still attempt to appeal to peoples common sense...ah who am I kidding? xD

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#42 Sep 02 2013 at 9:50 PM Rating: Good
I think what State is saying is, "I'd rather everyone be an adult for a change."
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This is a problem SE wishes they had had in 1.0.

The servers were pretty much ghost towns for that launch, and it had nothing to do with the login server problems.
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My biggest pet peeve of the moment is how everyone is saying this is a "failed launch".

On the contrary! Its perhaps the most successful MMO launch ever!! The only reason there are problems is because of its success.

The servers are rock solid, no bugs, no issues, when I login, I'm fine. 90000 occasionally but even that error is because of the server load.

Wednesday is coming, all will be fixed.



ya...that works until you run into the part that they sold twice as many games to people who have a legal right to expect to be able to play...then they had room for...

go figure, if they planned on 400k players, they should not have sold 1.5 million games...don't insult us with your cheese logic ok? its got holes big enough to fly a 767 through

FFXIV will go down as one of the worst launches I have ever seen since BattleCruiser 3000AD because they took 11 days to respond, Tuesday they are "supposed" to open new servers, so we will see.. You don't leave a million paying customers in the dark for 2 weeks, they should have overnighted a million dollars of hardware to get this fixed before launch date. The result will be reflected in our lack of confidence in SE. This is one of a few left in this gender that is still pay to play. This will hurt, but its anyones guess how much.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 10:41pm by pwrslm


The problem is, it really isn't that simple. They offered a free download of the game to anyone who had EVER bought it. Many of these people bought their games in 2009. It was probably extremely difficult to predict the amount of people that would turn out for launch because you have sales figures that spread over 4 YEARS. Also, as other people with tech experience have mentioned at least 43576438754 times- overnighting servers doesn't do jack ****. You can't just plug them in and voila! It doesn't work that way. The real issue isn't server stability for 5000 people, it's the duty finder trying to handle the demands of 230,000 people on all servers trying to queue up for dungeons. But again, we can't expect you to actually read anything that SE has said about this. You're too busy ranting about the injustice of it all. Sad that you can't see exactly how petty you guys sound.

Also, I don't understand why State's request to keep the ******** confined to a single thread or a few threads is such an awful request. Do each one of you special snowflakes really need their own thread to say the same exact thing? Are you all that emotionally traumatized by this experience that you NEED NEED NEED the personalized attention? Give me a break. If you're this upset about a god **** video game maybe you have deeper issues than just waiting a few days to log in. Seriously. Let's try to get some perspective here.
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well nothing ll ever change, zam fight forum is a part of any ff online game, lots of fun here when you cant play the game

and if you ever want to sart a cult stateAlchemist, im pretty sure that darexius2010 would be the 1st member !!

for real 1017 is frustating but we cant do nothing about it so better put energy on something else, best way to keep sanity :P
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This is their second launch, they should have known their own server limits and have had figured this out prior to launch. I havent been able to login for 3 days so meh.

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Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 10:02pm by aadrenry


I take it you were an expert skier that second trip down the slopes, huh? By the way, just for the record, it's actual their 3rd launch and no, they still wouldn't or shouldn't be doing the K10. You're just an anomaly.
#47 Sep 02 2013 at 10:07 PM Rating: Default
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well nothing ll ever change, zam fight forum is a part of any ff online game, lots of fun here when you cant play the game

and if you ever want to sart a cult stateAlchemist, im pretty sure that darexius2010 would be the 1st member !!

for real 1017 is frustating but we cant do nothing about it so better put energy on something else, best way to keep sanity :P


Naaah, I don't do cultist stuff and I buy into what makes sense, not what the masses say. I could reference a decision from our latest American president, but I'd be breaking some rules.
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#49 Sep 03 2013 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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This is not beta anymore..... se release a product that is failing ..... how did they not know how many total copies were purchased..... they handed out 1000 tickets for 700 seats..... very very poor customer service. People deserve to complain... if u have something else to do... good for you.... alot of people have been waiting a long time for this and se is blowing it


Again, launch an MMO and tell us that again. Do you know how many people pre-ordered and cancelled just for the EA and free game time? Do you know what the statistics looked like? Are you an industry leading expert having launched a successful AAA MMO? I think not. It's absolutely baffling to me that all of you want to argue with an administrator. I mean, why? What are you getting out of it? What are you getting out of posts that are nothing more than "RAAAWR WE BE MAD MASSES SE FAIL"? Do you have nothing else in your life that is eating at you besides a video game? I mean, I'm more worried about the weather in Phoenix tomorrow than I am whether I can log in to a game.

Like it's been said many many times, it isn't the fact that people are complaining, it's how they're complaining. Name calling, unwarranted comments, claiming to be adult-like but then needlessly bashing others out of turn, making claims of grandeur like they can personally do better when they themselves know that isn't true.

You're all unhappy. We get it.


If you don't like the thread.... then open it. I think the general discussion area on a gaming forum is a good place to vent. People are ********** they paid for a game they cannot play. and who the **** needs "official" statistics when you're getting the 1017 error all ****** day.... give me a break fanboy. I was on SE's side during the P4 issues but not allowing people to play a game THEY PAID FOR is assinine.


I'm going to give you some consideration since you appear new'ish here and I haven't run into you before. Do some research and read some other posts I've made, then come back and tell me if I'm a fanboi or not.

EDIT: **** it, nature will take it's course with you and I can ignore you just as easily.

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I am not complaining about 1017. It happens, I don't care I do something else while attempting to log back on. This is me asking people to stop spamming the forums with the same thing. Simple.

Lead by example then. Start a thread about something else instead of yet another thread complaining about the complaint threads.

You could try not talking back to admins and instead heading his warning... Consequences do tend to follow those that defy them.

People who post threads to complain aren't breaking forum rules. This isn't a case where an Admin is stepping in to do their job. This is a case where an Admin is making a post separate from the duties of his position.

Admins that make posts aren't the same as the Pope sitting on his throne.
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#51 Sep 03 2013 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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StateAlchemist, Om nom nom... wrote:
I am not complaining about 1017. It happens, I don't care I do something else while attempting to log back on. This is me asking people to stop spamming the forums with the same thing. Simple.

Lead by example then. Start a thread about something else instead of yet another thread complaining about the complaint threads.

You could try not talking back to admins and instead heading his warning... Consequences do tend to follow those that defy them.

People who post threads to complain aren't breaking forum rules. This isn't a case where an Admin is stepping in to do their job. This is a case where an Admin is making a post separate from the duties of his position.

Admins that make posts aren't the same as the Pope sitting on his throne.


You've a very valid point, and I respectfully concede.
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