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#1 Sep 02 2013 at 10:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Astral Fire reduces the casting time and mp cost of blizzard 3 in half. Blizzard 3 automatically gives you 3 umbral ice charges upon cast.

This is based on data from 9/13/13, but I believe the 'optimal' rotation might be something like:

Trash mobs

Note: for higher HP trash, it may be better to use T2.

1) Thunder 1 or 2
2) Fire 3
3) Fire1 spam
3a) IF firestarter procs, use fire 3 on your next cast (fire 1 cast > spam fire 3 button > fire 3 and fire 1 go off at the same time)

Condition 1: OOM but able to cast blizzard 3

3) Cast blizzard 3
4) Recast thunder 1/2
5) As soon thunder 1/2 is finished, cast fire3 even if not at full MP (the time it takes to cast fire 3 will give you another tick of mana, thereby giving you full mana)
6) Mash fire 1 button to get -50% cast time on fire 1
7) Repeat rotation

Condition 2: OOM and unable to cast blizzard 3

3) Convert
4) Fire 1
5) Wait to see if firestarter procced
5a) Use firestarter proc
6) Cast blizzard 3
7) Recast thunder 1/2

Condition 3: OOM, unable to cast blizzard 3, convert is down, ether on CD, no mage's ballad

3) Transpose
4) Filler spell (blizz 1, scathe) while waiting for first mana tick
5) Blizzard 3 (might not be necessary! check below for some interesting results)
6) Thunder 1/2
7) Fire 3
7a) Mash fire 1 button while fire 3 is casting



Boss

Assuming boss is immune to lethargy and virus is covered by someone else or not needed

1) Thunder 2
2) Fire 3
3) Quelling strikes > INT pot > raging strikes
4) Fire 1 spam
5a) IF firestarter procs, use fire 3 on your next cast (fire 1 cast > spam fire 3 button > fire 3 and fire 1 go off at the same time)
6) When OOM, use convert *This assumes you're opening: convert will be ready*
7) Cast fire 1
7a) IF firetarter procs, use fire 3
8) Cast blizzard 3
9) Recast thunder 2
10) Repeat from #3 until your CDs are back up. Quelling may not need to be used again depending on your tank.

Condition 1: OOM but able to cast blizzard 3

3) Cast blizzard 3
4) Recast thunder 2
5) As soon thunder 2 is finished, cast fire3 even if not at full MP (the time it takes to cast fire 3 will give you another tick of mana, thereby giving you full mana)
6) Mash fire 1 button to get -50% cast time on fire 1
7) Repeat rotation

Condition 2: OOM and unable to cast blizzard 3 but convert is up

3) Convert
4) Cast fire 1
4a) IF firetarter procs, use fire 3
5) Cast blizzard 3
6) Recast thunder 2

Condition 3: OOM, unable to cast blizzard 3, convert is down, ether on CD, no mage's ballad

3) Transpose
4) Filler spell (blizz 1, scathe) while waiting for first mana tick
5) Blizzard 3 (might not be necessary! check below for some interesting results)
6) Thunder 2
7) Fire 3
7a) Mash fire 1 button while fire 3 is casting



AoE rotation - long range

This assumes you cannot be in close-range (due to AoE or cleave) and/or that you have quelling up and will not pull aggro using this rotation.

1) Quelling strikes (can use raging strikes if you don't need it for burn phase later on)
2) Fire 3 (stacks of astral)
3) Fire 2
4) Fire 2
5) Fire 2
6) Swiftcast > Flare
7) Convert
7a) Ether/Hi-Ether if needed
8) Fire 2
9) Flare
10) Transpose
11) Blizzard 3
12) Fire 3

Repeat from #3 sans swiftcast and convert.




AoE rotation - close range

This assumes that you are in a scenario where you can sit in a group of mobs without taking massive damage from cleaves/AoE or quelling strikes is not up and will pull aggro as a result.

1) Quelling strikes (can use raging strikes if you don't need it for burn phase later on)
2) Fire 3 (stacks of astral)
3) Fire 2
4) Fire 2
5) Fire 2
6) Swiftcast > Flare
7) Convert
7a) Ether/Hi-Ether if needed
8) Fire 2
9) Flare
10) Transpose
11) Blizzard 2
12) Blizzard 2
12) Fire 3

Repeat from #3 sans swiftcast and convert.




Read below for more information! This post will be updated as a result of our findings.






Original post


So, here's my question.

When you obtain Firestarter at level 44, it allows you to change your rotation so that you spam fire 1 until Firestarter procs, and get a free fire 3 that's instant cast as a result.

However, due to casting lag, you will not actually know if you get Firestarter until your spell hits the mob. So, it seems to me like a waste of time waiting around to see if Firestarter procced or not after casting fire 1.

In WoW, this was always the case where it would be more efficient to not wait for procs and continue casting fire 1s despite whether Firestarter procced or not. Do you think that is the case here?

Also, you can take advantage of this casting lag in several ways. One of the ways I've found is the following:

Assume convert is down.


Cast fire 3 to obtain 3 charges of astral fire.
Spam fire 1 till out of mana.
Cast blizz 3 to obtain 3 charges of umbral ice.
Cast thunder 2 as mana regens.
Cast fire 3 to switch back to astral fire but immediately after fire 3 is finished, spam fire 1.

Using this method, your fire 1 cast right after your fire 3 also has the 'casting speed reduction' due to umbral ice III. Pretty **** cool.

Bunch of other tricks you can do with the casting lag but I haven't been able to quite pin down my rotation yet.

So what do you think?

Edited, Oct 27th 2013 6:30am by HitomeOfBismarck

Edited, Aug 26th 2017 7:16pm by Gidono
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