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#1 Sep 04 2013 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Welp, maintenance did nothing.

I have been trying to log in for 2 hours, and I still get "Cannot Retrieve NA/EU List", if I get past that I get Queue'd, if I get past that I get either "World is full" or a 3102, still logged in.

I love this game and the community, but it is bordering on pathetic now. Never thought I would say that :(
How very dissapointing.

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#2 Sep 04 2013 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Sadly I'm starting to agree. I went to bed last night thinking with the 12 hour long maintenance would fix the issues only to try logging in a few min and be told that the NA/EU list is unavailable. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though seeing as how just about every other server maintenance failed to truly fix the issues we have.
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#3 Sep 04 2013 at 10:45 AM Rating: Default
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And the thing that is going to suck the most for the ones that cant get on would be. If they fixed some of the issues causing players to D/c for no reason, now making the servers more stable. More people will be staying on, and going afk and not having to worry about getting dced as often now. So i hope for the ones that cant get on get some good news soon. Or.. Do what i do, as much as it will get me torched. I wake up early. Log on. go back to sleep for a few hours while im on vacation.
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Not to mention I just tried logging into my JP character only to be hit with the infamous 1017 error again.... so what exactly was the purpose of this maintenance and what did it fix?
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#5 Sep 04 2013 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Yep pretty much exactly same. Silly me thinking "Oh dear no XIV for 10 hours, but at least it will be worth the wait."


Not to bash the game or anything or push my opinion onto others (because I am this games biggest fan), but I am now growing ever more inclined to jump into the group of people saying - "This isnt Beta anymore, this should be fixed by now." (And those people really wound me up previously!)

Maybe give it a few weeks and if its still happening, time to move to blade and soul or something? :(
#6 Sep 04 2013 at 2:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hmmm maybe it's because we're on the east cost but me and my friends have been logging in and out all day on na and jp servers testing the fix. Our result has been a flawless victory with not one of us so much as waiting in cue with not a single disconnection in game. Sorry for you guys but it worked for me!
#7ShadowofaDoubt, Posted: Sep 04 2013 at 2:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The real test comes in a couple hours when it becomes east coast prime time. If I get home and can not log in, it was a fail on SE, and no amount of defending them will stop people from quitting this game in droves.
#8 Sep 04 2013 at 3:07 PM Rating: Excellent
SE stated they'll be keeping the severe login restrictions in place until they're confident they don't need to adjust the servers further. We don't know if those login restrictions will be eased tonight, tomorrow or a few days from now. That's all dependent on variables far beyond what we could possibly be aware of.

Just remember, you must choose to ignore the facts in order to get all angry and hot-headed.
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#9 Sep 04 2013 at 3:19 PM Rating: Good
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ShadowofaDoubt wrote:
The real test comes in a couple hours when it becomes east coast prime time. If I get home and can not log in, it was a fail on SE, and no amount of defending them will stop people from quitting this game in droves.

This scenario seems so unlikely.

People who bought the game have access for at least 30 days. If they fix it on day 25 and everything is up and running. Forgiveness will be forthcoming. No one is going to be like, I have this awesome game, it was one of my favorites and I really wanted to play it but because they had login issues for 25 days I'm not even going to try it now that they don't.

I just don't think that's how people think.

They made the game free to play for years over their last issue, they've already promised an extra 7 days. people will use the game time they have and they will judge it on the final product. There is no doomsday clock.

My prediction was next week Wed for real improvement. Server structure seems hard, especially what they are attempting to do.
#10 Sep 04 2013 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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East cost prime time now. Just had my third log off and log in in the last 2 hours.

First time, got in first try with a 1 person queue.
Second try, got in with no queue
Third time, got in with a 5 min queue.

They fixed the game for me alone? Im flatterd SE....really...thanks.
#11 Sep 04 2013 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Not that its any consolation, but I was unable to log in for 3 days due to 1017 and today I have not had one issue. I logged in just a second ago to test and I didn't even get a wait. Diablos server
#12 Sep 04 2013 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
Wait a couple more hours to see if things really get bad.... by then, you'll have people in most of the United States playing, with those of us on the West Coast just getting home to log in.

If we can log in over here, then the game is golden.
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#13 Sep 04 2013 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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When my NA server list doesn't appear, I run CCleaner to clear all my history and cookies, and then they usually appear. Not sure if this will help anyone else or not.
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Ryklin the Malevolent wrote:
When my NA server list doesn't appear, I run CCleaner to clear all my history and cookies, and then they usually appear. Not sure if this will help anyone else or not.


Means the login server is down or being restricted. Usually you just wait 5-10 minuets and it goes back up.
#15 Sep 04 2013 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sorry to hear this.

It will be an unfortunate situation if they can't get a handle on their server loads; opening up too many new servers will inevitably lead to ghost towns, server mergers, and bad press, but if login issues persist over weeks people will definitely get fed up with it.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what they do. At least them suspending digital sales indicates they are serious about fixing this problem.

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#16 Sep 04 2013 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Does anybody know if your region affects your ability to log in? I know the servers are on the east cost does anybody with networking knowledge know if this might explain why I've been having an easier time getting in?
#17 Sep 04 2013 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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I was able to sign on without a queue a couple of minutes ago. I've never been able to do that around this time. It may not be perfect, but I would say it's definitely an improvement. It will probably only get better over the next couple of days as they lift some of the restrictions in place.
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#18 Sep 04 2013 at 4:01 PM Rating: Default
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Squander wrote:
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The real test comes in a couple hours when it becomes east coast prime time. If I get home and can not log in, it was a fail on SE, and no amount of defending them will stop people from quitting this game in droves.

This scenario seems so unlikely.

People who bought the game have access for at least 30 days. If they fix it on day 25 and everything is up and running. Forgiveness will be forthcoming. No one is going to be like, I have this awesome game, it was one of my favorites and I really wanted to play it but because they had login issues for 25 days I'm not even going to try it now that they don't.

I just don't think that's how people think.

They made the game free to play for years over their last issue, they've already promised an extra 7 days. people will use the game time they have and they will judge it on the final product. There is no doomsday clock.

My prediction was next week Wed for real improvement. Server structure seems hard, especially what they are attempting to do.

Many of us only got two weeks, which were up on the 9th, so yes we have every right to be mad abot not getting service we paid for, as those 7 days are dwarfed by the week lost AND early access lost. And those 30 days arent technically free, you paid for them with the purchase of the game.
#19 Sep 04 2013 at 4:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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I too got in on the first try to a queue of 1 to Phoenix and then was in game a few seconds later. Haven't been able to log in that easily outside of around 1am before so that's a good sign.
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#20 Sep 04 2013 at 4:28 PM Rating: Default
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I logged on at 5am EST, and will log off at midnight. If the game doesn't crash that is.

Has anyone noticed more lag ? Sometime, NPC names don't show up, unless I spin my view around.
#21ClydesShadow, Posted: Sep 04 2013 at 6:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Holy sh*t dude... I understand being a fanboy. I'm as big of a FF fanboy as there is... but you're just plain blind if you can say this.
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SO the same issue.. I must have got home early enough because I got on fine... Well that means it will get worse once people stop logging again... There seem to be allot more people in the world, everything is too crowded and there seems to be more lag in allot more areas. I am wondering if they upped the amount of people thy let in..

Anyone notice any new servers on the list?
Anyone heard about transferring?



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#23 Sep 04 2013 at 6:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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ClydesShadow wrote:
I've never seen such blatant incompetence in my life... and it's a bit patronizing (actually it's A LOT patronizing) to hear people like you tell me that I need to be ignorant of the facts to get hotheaded.


Edited, Sep 4th 2013 8:01pm by ClydesShadow


You must not be very old or live in a different reality.

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#24 Sep 04 2013 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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ClydesShadow wrote:
Thayos wrote:
SE stated they'll be keeping the severe login restrictions in place until they're confident they don't need to adjust the servers further. We don't know if those login restrictions will be eased tonight, tomorrow or a few days from now. That's all dependent on variables far beyond what we could possibly be aware of.

Just remember, you must choose to ignore the facts in order to get all angry and hot-headed.


Holy sh*t dude... I understand being a fanboy. I'm as big of a FF fanboy as there is... but you're just plain blind if you can say this.

This is absolutely pathetic. I've never seen such blatant incompetence in my life. Me and thousands of others like me have not been able to get into an NA server since we bought the fricking game... and it's a bit patronizing (actually it's A LOT patronizing) to hear people like you tell me that I need to be ignorant of the facts to get hotheaded.


Edited, Sep 4th 2013 8:01pm by ClydesShadow


So you never been able to get into the game at all? I find that hard to believe. Plus what are you mad at, that fact that they are slowly opining up the servers bit by bit. The fact is a lot of people are getting in and those that can't their wait is far shorter then it was. The process that is in place is thoroughly explained, will there be no wait times or error 1017 no that's not the case or what they said but there is more open spots and wait times have vastly decreased and for lots of people disappeared.
#25 Sep 04 2013 at 7:00 PM Rating: Default
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ClydesShadow wrote:
Thayos wrote:
SE stated they'll be keeping the severe login restrictions in place until they're confident they don't need to adjust the servers further. We don't know if those login restrictions will be eased tonight, tomorrow or a few days from now. That's all dependent on variables far beyond what we could possibly be aware of.

Just remember, you must choose to ignore the facts in order to get all angry and hot-headed.


Holy sh*t dude... I understand being a fanboy. I'm as big of a FF fanboy as there is... but you're just plain blind if you can say this.

This is absolutely pathetic. I've never seen such blatant incompetence in my life. Me and thousands of others like me have not been able to get into an NA server since we bought the fricking game... and it's a bit patronizing (actually it's A LOT patronizing) to hear people like you tell me that I need to be ignorant of the facts to get hotheaded.


Edited, Sep 4th 2013 8:01pm by ClydesShadow


So you never been able to get into the game at all? I find that hard to believe. Plus what are you mad at, that fact that they are slowly opining up the servers bit by bit. The fact is a lot of people are getting in and those that can't their wait is far shorter then it was. The process that is in place is thoroughly explained, will there be no wait times or error 1017 no that's not the case or what they said but there is more open spots and wait times have vastly decreased and for lots of people disappeared.



I am not sticky up for him because it was uncalled for what he said but we don't know things are better yet... Because they took the world down and booted everyone? Too early to tell till people stop logging off again...
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#26 Sep 04 2013 at 8:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, logging into JP servers here just after patch (Australian eastern seaboard), I didn't have many issues at all. No 1017, no 90000, no "cannot locate JP-NA/EU server group list". My PC was having interweb connection issues, so I had to log out/in 3 times. Each time I got into a queue straight away (<100 people too), and was in within a couple of minutes. Couple of hours mining, then off to bed. (And yes, I did log out!)

Very small sample size (and time-wise), but felt a lot smoother - I didn't feel like I was fighting the game to play the game. I'm genuinely sorry that others aren't having the same experience, but (for me at least), the patch has done what it said on the box.
#27 Sep 04 2013 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Yep I was on last last night from Western Australia right after the maintenance finished. Hit the queue reliably, seems a lot more stable. Came across some issues in game with lag in busy areas (GC Leves, FATE's) but apart from that everything was good. Maintenance working as intended from where I sit.
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Yeah, I am surprised to hear about the continued complaints because I've logged in twice tonight without issue. Once at 7:15 PM EST (prime time East Coast) just to see if I could (then I logged out), and again about 5 mins ago at 10:15 PM EST (7:15PM West Coast) which is basically smack in the middle of NA prime time. No issue logging in either time. You guys must be on the most crowded world or something. Or SE just hates you personally.

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#29 Sep 05 2013 at 2:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I am surprised to hear about the continued complaints because I've logged in twice tonight without issue. Once at 7:15 PM EST (prime time East Coast) just to see if I could (then I logged out), and again about 5 mins ago at 10:15 PM EST (7:15PM West Coast) which is basically smack in the middle of NA prime time. No issue logging in either time. You guys must be on the most crowded world or something. Or SE just hates you personally.

Edited, Sep 4th 2013 10:20pm by ChaChaJaJa


Agreed. I didn't have one single 1017 and wasn't booted but once (90k) during a FATE. Even then, I got right back in and all was gravy. Not a single issue getting into Valefor.
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#30 Sep 05 2013 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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ClydesShadow wrote:
Thayos wrote:
SE stated they'll be keeping the severe login restrictions in place until they're confident they don't need to adjust the servers further. We don't know if those login restrictions will be eased tonight, tomorrow or a few days from now. That's all dependent on variables far beyond what we could possibly be aware of.

Just remember, you must choose to ignore the facts in order to get all angry and hot-headed.


Holy sh*t dude... I understand being a fanboy. I'm as big of a FF fanboy as there is... but you're just plain blind if you can say this.

This is absolutely pathetic. I've never seen such blatant incompetence in my life. Me and thousands of others like me have not been able to get into an NA server since we bought the fricking game... and it's a bit patronizing (actually it's A LOT patronizing) to hear people like you tell me that I need to be ignorant of the facts to get hotheaded.
Edited, Sep 4th 2013 8:01pm by ClydesShadow


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As a career software engineer, I am constantly confronted by situations where non-IT folks are baffled as to why some facet of their request is extremely challenging or complicated. Similarly, I see an equal number of situations where non-IT personnel are incredibly happy that what they thought was a complicated request was really a 5-minute change. The truth of the matter is, when you're coming from a position of relative ignorance (not derogatory, we're all ignorant to the details of SE's implementation), it's awfully difficult to tell what is hard and what isn't - and that's just coming from the technical viewpoint my career gives me.

Layer upon that the nuances of executive management, budget-time-resource constraints, feature prioritization, etc... and things get complicated pretty darn quick.

I just caution judging someones competence (or blatant incompetence) based on limited knowledge or expertise. You may be a genius in game development - I don't know - but even coming from my background I'm hesitant to completely throw SE under the bus since even though I code for a living, I know virtually zilch about what goes on behind those closed SE doors. Knowing what you don't know, so to speak.

The key things for us to watch for - continuous improvement and open communication - I feel that SE has done a pretty good job on, given the dynamics of a multinational launch. This, though, is much more subjective. To each his own.


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#31 Sep 05 2013 at 7:48 AM Rating: Excellent
I did run into the combo 90k +3102, however I submitted a support ticket and about 20 or so minutes later after watching some anime I got right back in. Haven't had problems since.

Edit: For informational purposes, this was last night that it happened.

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I got a 90k once yesterday when I had queued up for multiple duties on my blm and swapped to level my lower level cnj. But, I got right back in with no wait time, first try. Duty finder, on the other hand, still takes just as long (45 minutes for Castrum Meridianum as DD) but after I played the mission I realize that I never want to run it again either Smiley: tongue While the 8 man party flew through it, all that two hours of nonstop experience lacking grind for 100 tomestones at the end felt like a reward letdown Smiley: frown Oh well, just Ultima left and I can get onto some of this endgame (relic weapon Smiley: nod)

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#33 Sep 05 2013 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good
Got on last night at around 5:00 central time after downloading the update. This is around the time of day that NA servers should be starting to get crowded.
No queue, no errors. Jumped right on and played with no issues until around 9, then logged out.
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I managed to log in without even being in a queue at around 9:30 PM EDT (middle of prime time?) I even managed to log back in several times.

The down side: I was having to log back in due to problems with instancing. My friends and I tried several times to get into Sastasha. Each time, 2 of us would get in but the other two got disconnected with error 90k. The two of us that got d/c'ed kept getting error 10102 when we tried to log back in. This seemed to persist until the 2 members who got into the dungeon left it.

We hope that whatever the root problem is gets ironed out by tonight. It's nice that we can log in and do quests and level classes. But without being able to get into Sastasha, we're blocked on the main story line.
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#35 Sep 05 2013 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Not sure if it is pure coincidence but since after the update I have ran into the issue of not being able to pull up the server list twice. I restarted my computer and both times it was corrected when I logged back in. My gut tells me it is coincidence but.................kind of like crafting in XI.........facing North on a Windsday, wearing AF, in rainy weather got you a .4 increase in crit chance on crafting LOL
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