Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Poor PS3 Rendering in massive FATEsFollow

#1 Sep 04 2013 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
Avatar
38 posts
Is anyone else having this problem? I joined some FATEs today in Coerthas Central Highlands, and had such a hard time seeing any enemies thanks to the huge number of players there as well. Hard to get any FATE contribution if you can't even see what everyone else is attacking. Got one shotted by Svara as well because I couldn't see her and the red AOE zone. Anyone else on PS3 having this problem? Or is my lousy internet connection to blame?
#2 Sep 04 2013 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
*
189 posts
I had massive lag tonight, i get out of the red zone in a single person fate, i counted at least 2 seconds and the marlboro's aoe still hit me, lag in my zone too but there where tons of people.
____________________________
FFXI Alexandar 51 SUM
Ramuh 50 SUM 53 THF
WoW Malygos 80MAG 60 WLK
The forgtn cst 80 MAG 73 WLK

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=2494669
Retainer: Weaponsandshields
#3 Sep 04 2013 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
Avatar
*
150 posts
pc master race
#4 Sep 04 2013 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
Avatar
****
4,775 posts
Strangerous wrote:
pc master race


Until the PS4 version comes out and dominates both PS3 and PC versions.
#5 Sep 04 2013 at 9:02 PM Rating: Decent
3 posts
Yeah, it took some getting use to, I now use a USB keyboard. The key is to hit the tab key to cycle thru the mobs. As a arcanist I try to cast bio to get a hit here and there because they drop so quickly. So far it has worked out well, but it is still annoying not being to see anything or the screen is zoomed into the back of the characters head.
#6 Sep 04 2013 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
*
59 posts
Wait u serious PC players don't get that deadly lag...cant say am not a lil jealous.
I haven't hit that high only 35 but I remember I had a laggy FATE in Shroud where things literally took 4-8sec to move and my char gliding across screen...
____________________________
FFXIV
Zero Hellsing (PLD)

FC The Kraken Club

FFXI - BST75 DRK75 (retired)
#7 Sep 04 2013 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
Avatar
*
95 posts
Yeah it's pretty bad but with keyboard binds to target I do ok. Fast Internet helps.
#8 Sep 04 2013 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
Needs More Smut
******
21,262 posts
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Strangerous wrote:
pc master race


Until the PS4 version comes out and dominates both PS3 and PC versions.


PS4 will be on par with today's higher end PCs. In a year, PCs will surpass it again.
____________________________
FFXI: Catwho on Bismarck: Retired December 2014
Thayos wrote:
I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

FFXIV: Katarh Mest and Taprara Rara on Lamia Server - Member of The Swarm
Curator of the XIV Wallpapers Tumblr and the XIV Fashion Tumblr
#9 Sep 04 2013 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
*
150 posts
Catwho wrote:
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Strangerous wrote:
pc master race


Until the PS4 version comes out and dominates both PS3 and PC versions.


PS4 will be on par with today's higher end PCs. In a year, PCs will surpass it again.


Actually looked at the specs on the ps4.
Fairly confident it will preform as good as my year old rig. Console specs are always a bit goofy imo. 8 gigs of ddr5...so it uses ddr5 ram, so it will load stuff faster than my rig, slightly. unless that's vram which really only means it will support much larger displays than my rig will, which makes sense playing on a tv vs a monitor.

TFLOPs...didn't know where to check TFLOPS for a over clocked gtx 680.
CPU doesn't look right as its a really slow *** quad core, not sure why a console would use a slow CPU

Either way, ill have access to thousands of games, backward compatibility, and when I upgrade to a better rig down the line I wont have to rebuy my game library.

Some how I get the feeling that right off the bat the PS4 will compete with high end pc's in single player games but still get the shaft when it comes to mmo games, at least graphically.

Edited, Sep 4th 2013 11:46pm by Strangerous
#10 Sep 04 2013 at 11:26 PM Rating: Good
I play primarily on the PS3 and on occasion on my PC. The resolution is noticably lower and the animations aren't.... 'animating' at full framerate, but that doesn't bother me. I use my PS3 controller on both my PC and my PS3, but when I'm on my PS3, I'm in laze mode on the couch :P The tradeoff is worth it.
____________________________
Blog: http://robertcrist.me/

Current: FFXIV | EVE Online (again)
Former: FFXI | The Matrix Online (FOREVER!!!) | STO | SW:TOR | EQ2 | WoW | Florensia | RF Online

FFXI :: Valefor :: Dareknight, Darexius
FFXIV :: Valefor :: Dare Knight
EVE Online :: Dare Knight, Hazel Knight, Rex Knight
#11 Sep 05 2013 at 3:43 AM Rating: Decent
Avatar
****
4,775 posts
Strangerous wrote:


Actually looked at the specs on the ps4.
Fairly confident it will preform as good as my year old rig. Console specs are always a bit goofy imo. 8 gigs of ddr5...so it uses ddr5 ram, so it will load stuff faster than my rig, slightly. unless that's vram which really only means it will support much larger displays than my rig will, which makes sense playing on a tv vs a monitor.

TFLOPs...didn't know where to check TFLOPS for a over clocked gtx 680.
CPU doesn't look right as its a really slow *** quad core, not sure why a console would use a slow CPU

Either way, ill have access to thousands of games, backward compatibility, and when I upgrade to a better rig down the line I wont have to rebuy my game library.

Some how I get the feeling that right off the bat the PS4 will compete with high end pc's in single player games but still get the shaft when it comes to mmo games, at least graphically.


I can't believe people look at the specs like this without pointing out the obvious. Optimization is key. It's one of the major advantages of a console. PC games are held back and require much more powerful hardware to compete to offset this advantage.

The CPU and GPU work in tandem and the memory is unified. This setup isn't on typical PC's yet people are comparing these specs to how a normal PC would utilize them. The PS4 doesn't have the resource hog Windows either and all the crap that runs in the background. Again, none of these points are made. On top of all that, the PS4 will use (Gaikai)cloud computing to enhance(stream graphical improvements) the console as it ages. Again, another point left out.


Ahhh.. one last point I wish to add here. SE is terrible, absolutely horrible at programming PC games. I don't care what game they make, all of them were ported horribly. That's another advantage. Considering some of the PC owners who said they nerfed the graphics, I think I know why. It's not the PS3's fault either.




Edited, Sep 5th 2013 10:43am by ShadowedgeFFXI
#12 Sep 05 2013 at 3:59 AM Rating: Decent
*****
12,622 posts
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Steam-Survey-Most-PC-Gamers-Have-Weaker-PCs-Than-PS4-Xbox-One-58833.html

Upgrading to PS4 will be a significant boost for current PS3 players.
____________________________
Blah
#13 Sep 05 2013 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
Avatar
**
425 posts
@OP: It doesn't help either that the screen resolution is scaled down to 720p or 400p depending.. the PS3 so much more capable of rendering better than that.
____________________________
FFXI character: Elathia ::F Tarutaru::87SCH/75RDM/70WHM/54BLM::Cerberus/Ragnarok/Bahamut::1/23/2004 - 3/25/2015 :: Retired
RDM First 75 Job :: RDM Maat victory: March 28, 2008 (1/3) :: San d'Oria R10 Long live King Destin :: Praise be to the late King Ranperre.
FFXIV character: Selene Silverstorm :: F Lalafell :: WAR60/WHM60/BLM60 :: Ragnarok :: 9/2013 -
Patch note archives for FFXIV: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/patchnote_log/
#14 Sep 05 2013 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
*****
12,622 posts
TwilightSkye wrote:
@OP: It doesn't help either that the screen resolution is scaled down to 720p or 400p depending.. the PS3 so much more capable of rendering better than that.

It's really not, though. The amount of VMem available is paltry when compared to what it takes to make a modern game engine.
____________________________
Blah
#15 Sep 05 2013 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
***
1,622 posts
I have yet to have any problem in FATEs on PS3. The occasional slight delay before mobs show up sometimes yes, but never enough to keep me from participating and getting credit. I'm not high level (25) but I am playing since phase 3 and have done a lot of FATEs.

My wife plays on a low end PC and has much more issues with loading and lag.
____________________________

Nuit Midril - White Mage/Scholar on Ultros
Nuit the Insane! - Retired Druid on Sentinels.
Ombre - Retired Dragoon/bard on Phoenix.
#16 Sep 05 2013 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
***
2,550 posts
If you are on PS3 and playing a FATE in Coerthas, Mor Dhona, or Ceruleum Mines, then Blizzard II ftw.

Sometimes I dont even see the chimera. The whole time. With all party and non party PC effects turned off.
____________________________
Character Name: Valk Ayree
Server: Lamia; Free Company Leader - The Swarm (Swarm)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1746889/
- Blue Mage? FTW? -
#17 Sep 05 2013 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
Avatar
38 posts
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
I have yet to have any problem in FATEs on PS3. The occasional slight delay before mobs show up sometimes yes, but never enough to keep me from participating and getting credit. I'm not high level (25) but I am playing since phase 3 and have done a lot of FATEs.


I never had a problem with FATEs until Coerthas. People come at 35 and some even stick around till 50. So a lot more players than any of the lower level zones.

Valkayree wrote:
If you are on PS3 and playing a FATE in Coerthas, Mor Dhona, or Ceruleum Mines, then Blizzard II ftw.

Sometimes I dont even see the chimera. The whole time. With all party and non party PC effects turned off.


This is exactly what I'm talking about. It sucks to run all the way to a FATE and then do nothing but stand around hoping the NM appears on your screen so you can get some contribution in. The worse thing is when he appears for a few sec, and then disappears. Unfortunately I'm a WHM so no AOE. SE should allow us to customize the order stuff appears. Like Mobs > Party members > NPCs > Other players.
#18 Sep 05 2013 at 2:02 PM Rating: Default
*
249 posts
ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Strangerous wrote:
pc master race


Until the PS4 version comes out and dominates both PS3 and PC versions.

Um no, the PS4 while advanced is still behind what an avg new gaming rig can handle.
#19 Sep 05 2013 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
Avatar
**
611 posts
After an hour of fate grinding today... I am noticing a decent difference in how the enemies load after I opened the appropriate ports on my router. Its not perfect... there is a delay still... but significant enough that you can actually contribute to the Fate... Maybe worth a shot?
____________________________
FFXI Ronyn RDM 75 (R.I.P.) -Fairy / BarretJax 95 MNK (Non-Active) - Asura
Ronin Olorin / Ronyn Oloryn (Active) - Ultros Server

"Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence." - Max Ehrmann
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 96 All times are in CST
Callinon, Lyrailis, Theonehio, Anonymous Guests (93)