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#1 Sep 07 2013 at 5:30 PM Rating: Default
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Global Cooldown, i.e. the time between right after you use an ability before you are allowed to use another ability.
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#3 Sep 07 2013 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
The thing in ARR that should be lowered to 1.5 seconds.
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#4 Sep 07 2013 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
Transmigration the Charming wrote:
The thing in ARR that should be lowered to 1.5 seconds.


1.497s....

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#5 Sep 07 2013 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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darexius2010, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Transmigration the Charming wrote:
The thing in ARR that should be lowered to 1.5 seconds.


1.497s....

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That's with 400 +skill speed.
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#6 Sep 07 2013 at 5:52 PM Rating: Default
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so im guessing ffxi wasnt GCD? also thd reviiew talk like gcd is old in mmos.. i thought it was pretty standard i mean if gcd is old what are mmos using these days? lastly why does xiv hav auto attack? considering how oftsn i can spam my skills auto attack seems pointless
#7 Sep 07 2013 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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If you are just spamming skills, and not using auto attack, you will run out of TP fast. Auto attack builds TP. I'd say it's pretty useful.
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
so im guessing ffxi wasnt GCD? also thd reviiew talk like gcd is old in mmos.. i thought it was pretty standard i mean if gcd is old what are mmos using these days? lastly why does xiv hav auto attack? considering how oftsn i can spam my skills auto attack seems pointless


It's hard to figure out what you're actually talking about in there.

A global cooldown as a way to throttle player actions is standard and not new. Auto attacks are a buffer against lag being the sole determining factor in your ability to do your job.

Also if you spam skills at higher levels you will run out of TP on medium-length fights. And then you will not be able to do that anymore.
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#9 Sep 07 2013 at 10:36 PM Rating: Default
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wel if you look at the part 2 review of ffxiv on this site it sas 'if you dont like old school gcd mmos youd be better off looking elsewhere' so gcd is 'old school'? if so what other kinda mmos are there that dont use gcd
#10 Sep 07 2013 at 10:54 PM Rating: Excellent
FFXI didn't really have a GCD. You auto attacked 95% of the time, and blew through your abilities as they came off CD (cool down).
If coming into FFXIV thinking this is how fights work, and have never played a newer (think WoW, WoW Clone) MMO where abilities are on a GCD you might be in a world of surprise.

I do wish more abilities were not all on the same GCD :3
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#11 Sep 07 2013 at 11:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hmm... I did a quick scan through the vague reference of a source that you like to pull out of your pockets and I didn't see anything that said FFXIV would use an "old school" GCD system. What I did find is this: "If you’re not a fan of WoW-style GCD combat, then this game’s combat isn’t for you especially since ARR’s GCD is a full 2.5 seconds.". Granted, this is dug up by using a simple Ctrl+F and part of whatever stupid quote you deem strong enough to topple FFXIV and all of it's fanbois.

Btw, why do you care so much about a GCD? I gave you a free pass when I first glanced at the topic but then I see you try to argue it. What if, and bear with me here, but what if game developers implemented a system where you couldn't spam certain skills because it would cause the game to become unbalanced? Just think of the carnage! And before anyone tries to grab my goat about this, I do think some of the skills need to have their own GCD but that is a discussion for another time and another thread derailing.
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#12DuoMaxwellxx, Posted: Sep 07 2013 at 11:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I never said i "cared" about GCD... the point of this thread was the fact that "If you’re not a fan of WoW-style GCD combat, then this game’s combat isn’t for you" so I was wondering what MMO WOULD be for someone who doesnt like GCD since aside from FFXI EVERY OTHER mmo ive played uses GCD soo if someone had to "look elsewhere" if i didnt like GCD then what options are there to look at?
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I'd like to see my shield skills be on a separate cooldown from my attack skills, stuff like that. I think most stuns need to be non-global (Maraduer's might be, but been a few days since I switched to Gladiator...)

Edited, Sep 7th 2013 11:01pm by Raelix
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And before anyone tries to grab my goat about this...


This is one of those times when I see a saying and I am left wondering what type of situation led to this becoming an actual part of the English dialect. I rated you up just for the entertainment value possibilities of "grab my goat".
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Seraphaniim wrote:
And before anyone tries to grab my goat about this...


This is one of those times when I see a saying and I am left wondering what type of situation led to this becoming an actual part of the English dialect. I rated you up just for the entertainment value possibilities of "grab my goat".


I have never heard of "grab my goat" as far as a phrase goes. I have heard of "gets my goat", which basically means something makes you angry. Getting someone's goat originated from the racetrack, where goats where kept with horses to keep them calm. So taking someone's goat would cause the horse to become agitated and run poorly. So, either due to it upsetting the horse or the owner, that's why getting someone's goat is bad thing.

Now, as for grabbing a goat, unless that is a euphemism for something else, I'm afraid I am at a loss.
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#16 Sep 08 2013 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I do wish more abilities were not all on the same GCD :3

^ this! The cool down should be individual for each ability. Lengthen the CD timer if that what it takes to balance but the current system seems... unnatural.
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When you grow up in the south around a bunch of backwater relatives and spend enough time with your Puerto Rican in-laws, you find yourself with a plethora of weird metaphors/analogies. I think my wife walks around with a bag full of random verbs and nouns that she pulls from without glancing at what she just picked up. This past week I've heard that one of our dogs dances around like a slug.

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#18 Sep 08 2013 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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I never said i "cared" about GCD... the point of this thread was the fact that "If you’re not a fan of WoW-style GCD combat, then this game’s combat isn’t for you" so I was wondering what MMO WOULD be for someone who doesnt like GCD since aside from FFXI EVERY OTHER mmo ive played uses GCD soo if someone had to "look elsewhere" if i didnt like GCD then what options are there to look at?


THAT was what I was getting at, this topic was not to "topple FFXIV and all its fanbois" infact it wasnt even released to FFXIV... so yeah, now that you know my ACTUAL intend for this thread as opposed to just making assumptions, please do feel free to answer the question now.


FFXI didn't use a GCD except the 2h abilities (now 1h abilities). Off the top of my head The Matrix Online didn't, nor did RF Online. EVE Online doesn't have a 'GCD'. I can't speak for SW:TOR as I don't remember and it's been a while since I played so I don't know what recent changes have come to the game.

Edited, Sep 8th 2013 12:42pm by darexius2010
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#19 Sep 08 2013 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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FFXI has a GCD on what were 2 hour, now 1 hour abilities.
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#20 Sep 08 2013 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Actaully FFXI has a one second global cooldown. Just because you don't see a little shadow clock spinning doesn't mean you can spam things any faster.

Tons of people in here misinterpreting what a GCD is or what it's at least intended for. A timer shared across classes is not a GCD, an enforced delay between any abilities is.

Edited, Sep 8th 2013 10:14am by Raelix
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