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#1 Sep 08 2013 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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I'm a veteran WoW player checking this game out for the first time after buying it yesterday (had to call four different Gamestops to find one that had it in stock) after watching some streams. I'm also an oldschool Final Fantasy fan from the old NES/SNES days and so far I can say I'm having a blast.

I chose to be a Gladiator since I plan to tank as a Paladin (I always end up tanking in every MMO I've played) and currently I'm around level 11 or so. Anyways, I have some basic questions about how things work in this game since I'm not used to it from other MMOs:

1) What exactly are these "leve" things and when should I look at doing them? I totally forgot they were even there because there was no quest indicator by the guy giving it, but thus far I've leveled just by doing side quests, story quests and the occasional FATE. On that note, since you start back at level 1 if you switch a class, if I go to a new city would I be able to do the starting quests there too, or would I have to grind mobs to level? It seems at some point you would run out of quests if you try to switch too many classes.

2) When can I go to the other cities, say to Gridania to pick up Conjuror? When I can do that, should I switch to Conjuror and level it to 15 in Gridania before resuming leveling as a Gladiator?

2a) How exactly do Cross Class skills work? I'd need to level to X in the other class and then I can take one of the abilities on the chart? For instance I'm going to be leveling as Conjuror anyways since I need 15 for Paladin, so when I get level 4 (I think?) I can get Cure to use as Gladiator?

3) RE: Professions, I read somewhere that it's a good idea to level all of them to at least level 15 and then specialize. I've already chosen Mining and Goldsmith from Ul'dah, should I go and get the other two and spend some time in the lower areas leveling them (I think I'm at like 4 as Miner and Goldsmith right now). When it comes to specialization as a Paladin which should I level further? I'm not really used to the profession system here where you can go into anything and everything if you want; the closest was RIFT where you could have two gathering and one crafting profession, but that was required as many of the craftable items required materials from different professions.

4) RE: Tanking, while I'm at at a level to tank an early dungeon yet (It's level 17 I think?) there doesn't seem to be any kind of AOE damage move that I've noticed (maybe at higher level) so it seems like most of my tanking at least early would be using Flash to establish aggro and then tab-target using Fast Blade -> Savage Blade, with the occasional Flash thrown in?
#2 Sep 08 2013 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Nobleshield wrote:
1) What exactly are these "leve" things and when should I look at doing them? I totally forgot they were even there because there was no quest indicator by the guy giving it, but thus far I've leveled just by doing side quests, story quests and the occasional FATE. On that note, since you start back at level 1 if you switch a class, if I go to a new city would I be able to do the starting quests there too, or would I have to grind mobs to level? It seems at some point you would run out of quests if you try to switch too many classes.

Guildleves is basically kill X number of Y mob, as far as Disciples of War/Magic are concerned. You can only access them once you reach a certain point in either the story or class quests. I believe it is the story, so someone can correct me on that point if I am wrong.

Also, quests per city remain, so yes, you can hop to a new city (Gridania in your case), restart at level 1 CNJ and level using the low level quests.


Nobleshield wrote:
2) When can I go to the other cities, say to Gridania to pick up Conjuror? When I can do that, should I switch to Conjuror and level it to 15 in Gridania before resuming leveling as a Gladiator?


Anytime, really. The world is not so massive that you cannot walk there. The actual storyline missions will eventually take you to each new city via airship eventually, if you want to wait for that. As for class switching, once you complete your level 10 job quest, you can then take on other jobs, so anytime after that you can go and obtain all the jobs. As for CNJ, leveling it to 15 (and completing its job quests) might be a good idea if you just want to park the job and return to GLD.

Nobleshield wrote:
2a) How exactly do Cross Class skills work? I'd need to level to X in the other class and then I can take one of the abilities on the chart? For instance I'm going to be leveling as Conjuror anyways since I need 15 for Paladin, so when I get level 4 (I think?) I can get Cure to use as Gladiator?


As far as I am aware, cross class skills can be used at any time. There are a limited number you can have set, and there are some abilities you cannot use.

Nobleshield wrote:
3) RE: Professions, I read somewhere that it's a good idea to level all of them to at least level 15 and then specialize. I've already chosen Mining and Goldsmith from Ul'dah, should I go and get the other two and spend some time in the lower areas leveling them (I think I'm at like 4 as Miner and Goldsmith right now). When it comes to specialization as a Paladin which should I level further? I'm not really used to the profession system here where you can go into anything and everything if you want; the closest was RIFT where you could have two gathering and one crafting profession, but that was required as many of the craftable items required materials from different professions.


You will get tons of really good gear drops. Really, any profession is going to help you one way or another. For PLD, I could see Blacksmith or Armorer being good choices as a main, but as for the markets and making money, I cannot say what is the big ticket sales item so far. Goldsmith is also a good choice for accessories. And really, get both Botany and Mining, if for no other reason than an easy way to restock on crystals. Both crafts can get all the crystals, but they each have certain crystals that are more readily available from lower level spawns, allowing you to farm them rapidly right near town.

Nobleshield wrote:
4) RE: Tanking, while I'm at at a level to tank an early dungeon yet (It's level 17 I think?) there doesn't seem to be any kind of AOE damage move that I've noticed (maybe at higher level) so it seems like most of my tanking at least early would be using Flash to establish aggro and then tab-target using Fast Blade -> Savage Blade, with the occasional Flash thrown in?


If you are dealing with a smart, efficient party, you only need to flash the group. When I was tanking on MRD, I only ever Overpowered once or twice a fight. The idea is that everyone should be focusing on your primary target, kill it fast, then switch to your next target. Just messing around with my fiancee (she's a THM, so I would assume with a healer I'd need to worry more), I flash any group we encounter once and never have to take another action to keep them focused on me.

If you are dealing with a party that wants to fight multiple mobs, the tabbing fun is something you'll need to do, or just let the smart *** who thinks they can take each a death to teach them a lesson.
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#3 Sep 08 2013 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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Nobleshield wrote:
I'm a veteran WoW player checking this game out for the first time after buying it yesterday (had to call four different Gamestops to find one that had it in stock) after watching some streams. I'm also an oldschool Final Fantasy fan from the old NES/SNES days and so far I can say I'm having a blast.

I chose to be a Gladiator since I plan to tank as a Paladin (I always end up tanking in every MMO I've played) and currently I'm around level 11 or so. Anyways, I have some basic questions about how things work in this game since I'm not used to it from other MMOs:

1) What exactly are these "leve" things and when should I look at doing them? I totally forgot they were even there because there was no quest indicator by the guy giving it, but thus far I've leveled just by doing side quests, story quests and the occasional FATE. On that note, since you start back at level 1 if you switch a class, if I go to a new city would I be able to do the starting quests there too, or would I have to grind mobs to level? It seems at some point you would run out of quests if you try to switch too many classes.

2) When can I go to the other cities, say to Gridania to pick up Conjuror? When I can do that, should I switch to Conjuror and level it to 15 in Gridania before resuming leveling as a Gladiator?

2a) How exactly do Cross Class skills work? I'd need to level to X in the other class and then I can take one of the abilities on the chart? For instance I'm going to be leveling as Conjuror anyways since I need 15 for Paladin, so when I get level 4 (I think?) I can get Cure to use as Gladiator?

3) RE: Professions, I read somewhere that it's a good idea to level all of them to at least level 15 and then specialize. I've already chosen Mining and Goldsmith from Ul'dah, should I go and get the other two and spend some time in the lower areas leveling them (I think I'm at like 4 as Miner and Goldsmith right now). When it comes to specialization as a Paladin which should I level further? I'm not really used to the profession system here where you can go into anything and everything if you want; the closest was RIFT where you could have two gathering and one crafting profession, but that was required as many of the craftable items required materials from different professions.

4) RE: Tanking, while I'm at at a level to tank an early dungeon yet (It's level 17 I think?) there doesn't seem to be any kind of AOE damage move that I've noticed (maybe at higher level) so it seems like most of my tanking at least early would be using Flash to establish aggro and then tab-target using Fast Blade -> Savage Blade, with the occasional Flash thrown in?



Think of leves as event quests on demand. You are allotted 3 of them (combined across all types) per day and I believe they accumulate to 99 if you don't do them every day. I think this was SE's answer to dailies. You don't need to do them ever day you can do a bunch once every few weeks ect. Though I really don't see any reputation grind attached to them. IMO on your first run through, just do the one that unlocks the NPC that gives out leves. You have storyline quests and quest hub stuff to carry you to endgame. When you are leveling up crafting/gathering/secondary classes...then you use the leves (and they are quite effective)

Around level 15 or so the game opens up. You will still be guided by the storyline however you can go to every single city (make sure to bind to the aethernet for fast travel) and can and should take every craft, gather, combat class you desire.

Cross skills you can find in your action menu. You get an allotment of a few skills you can drag and drop into cross class toolbar then drag them to your hotbar. Level up other classes for more skills, level up main class for more allotment.

IMO, drop RIft from your mind, it was basically a reskin of WOW with a few gimmicks. You can be every single type of crafter or gatherer. Do what seems interesting, there is no right answer or best choice. You might want to take armorer for your planned paladin, but know that he will be geared via quests and dungeons, so perhaps cloth weaving would be better so you can quickly gear up your conjurer since you wont have quest hub quest on him. Its really your choice and you don't need to do it (however crafting is good for money even if you are making what appears to be spam crap it does sell atm)

All tanks get at least one aoe pull. If im not mistaken, paladins are raid boss style single target tanks, warriors are more adds and aoe tanks.
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