Guide to crafting - ControlFollow

Thanks for looking into this. I haven't gotten deep into crafting yet, just running around gathering a lot so far, but it's nice to see that digging into the system is already beginning!

Only time I have ever been concerned with control is when trying to get a high enough combined total to craft level 50 * and ** items. So yes, you can get to level 50 without knowing a dang bit about control. Would be interesting to figure out why the quality meter will sometimes randomly spike in percentage. I'm not complaining, I wish it would do it more often =)

Excellent has a multiplier of 4.0, or +300% quality, Excellent is always followed by Poor, which is a 0.5 multiplier. Poor and Good always change to Normal, Normal has roughly a 1/3 to 1/4 chance of changing to Good and maybe 1/20 chance of changing to Excellent.

Inner Quiet increases control by 20% of your starting control at each step.

I'm pretty certain that your level vs the level of the synth affects how much quality/progress you get from an action.

Well can confirm that quality doesn't depend on level/difficulty, only progress.

37 weaver -
making cotton yarn (level 26 - 26 difficulty, 11 levels lower than me) - 126 for the first quality step
making linen yarn (level 32- 55 difficulty, 5 levels lower) - 126 quality on the first step
making linen short gloves (level 38 - 128 difficulty, 1 level higher) - 126 quality on the first step


Also inner quiet is 20% i finally got a chance to test it on my lower level crafters.

Edited, Sep 15th 2013 1:57pm by dustinfoley

Starting my work on progress:

For 0 level difference:
y=craftsmanship/4-6.2
This seems to be pretty constant. Its when you correct for level difference that its getting more complicated.




It seems to be a negative polynomial roughly:

y=-0.1*(level)^2-2.5*(level)+(craftsmanship/4-6.2)

level is how many levels lower the recipie is than current level. AKA lvl 32 recipie at level 42 is -10. Its a bit difficult to get values, so if anyone wants to give me their craftsmanship, level difference, and progress (and %, aka 41 progress using 90% skill). I will get more data and compile a better fit line

Not entirely correct.

It is an arctan scale.

Think arctan(x-pi) + pi/2,

I found this rather excellent post on FFXIV Reddit yesterday which made me level Carpenter to 16 last night, and Culinarian to (at least) 15 tonight before I take Goldsmith beyond 35.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1mh6um/crafting_guidetheorycrafting_dont_let_crafters/

The difficulty does affect Quality. Try 2 stars recipe, you will see this VERY clearly.

Btw i have learned tonight the Hardway that crafting with 0 Condition Equip and Weapons (all red), automaticly will end in a failure. Have lost around 30k Gil to learn this lesson.

As Far as i Could watch with my lvl 30 Armor u can make around 150 Crafting Tries bevor your full repaired Gear reches Zero. I Craftet Steel Bares this night, maybe with more difficult or higher items it drops faster and easier oner slower, must watch this more carefully.^^ But 300 in a row was to mutch only get from mats for 300 bars only around 150 so i think thats the time for a break and repair.

Gear damage is something to watch out for. For all Classes/Jobs, a broken piece of gear is like being naked in that slot. You get no (or at least not enough to actually be calculated to any benefit) bonus from the gear.

So, if your main tool, which typically gives you nearly 40% of your Control and craftsmanship breaks, that means you effectively lost 40% of all your stats.

This is also why you always want to have the best level equivilant tool more so than equipment (including off-hand).

The stats from those makes a significant difference, and since HQ is now more important, and required for almost everything from quests to leves, every point really counts.

As well, don't forget your food (I am not a big culinarian, so I am not trying to push my sales). There are foods that can give upwards of 25 points to Control or Craftsmanship. But remember to use food that is level/stat significant. So, the highest level of food you can eat that gives you the best overall points (so calculate out the percent, and ensure you don't go over the food cap, or if you do, there isn't a food that while may have a lower percentage doesn't give better overall stat bonus).

The 3% exp + the added success rate/Quality increase can be the difference for me is the difference between getting 30k exp a synth, or 70k exp a synth (on a single turn in leve), or 50k and 90k on a three item leve. Then there are the three turn in three item leves.... Exp candy!!! (my record has been 9x8k for synthing + 20k*3*3 for turnins), which is 252k exp for a single leve...

At 50:
Main/off tool: 30% craftsmanship each (60% total)----22% of total control (44% total)

So it is just as import to have all gear good, but you will see the best results from BOTH main AND off tool being as good as possible, as well as the body. If your main tool is over 40% of either stat then you need to upgrade your other gear and your off hand tool.

The point was that if your main tool is broken, you can start a synthesis but it will auto fail. It wasn't about losing 40% of your stats.