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#52 Sep 16 2013 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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Haha stfu! They probably thought it was appropriate since they will be preventing rmt shouts.
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i mean in all my years of playing ffxi ive NEVER heard of an acciunt getting "hacked" that wasnt an account whos info was willingly shared with others

You probably won't believe me/him, but I have a friend whose account was stolen in FFXI and moved to another server, stripped, and turned into a RMT shiller before the task force got involved. At the time, he didn't use a token, which was his mistake. He never gave his info out, since none of his real life friends played, and me and another person were his only real contacts in-game.
#54 Sep 16 2013 at 1:43 PM Rating: Default
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Hey everybody.

I guess most of you have allready see the goldsellers Spam and maybe some farm Bots to. I was lvling my mine this Weekend a bit. Hoping that i can make some Money from selling ressources or craftet stuff. But the Prices on Excalibur are so Cheap is most times not even worth putting stuff into the AH. Also i have sawd on Saturday first time the Reason while mining for it.

I sawt alone on my mining place 8 Bots around the mined all automaticly, but more worst they used a Kind of teleport hack that save them the complet Walking time and avoid all Mobs on there way to the next spots. I have reportet them all and descriped the way they act as good as i could but i got no Answer so far.

Thats real ******* me of because this bots are overfloating the AH. Ok sure on one way its good because you get the mats real cheap. But if you try to make some Money with from it, its nearly usless because i get faster Gill from dooing fates or Leaves.

I also couldnt find a Statement from SE about this. MAybe its just me but if SE dont stop this i think it will break the game economy and the fun for all miners who collecting ressources by themself to make a bit Profit and so on.



When I read this all I could think of were those foreigners from Family Guy who can't speak English.
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i mean in all my years of playing ffxi ive NEVER heard of an acciunt getting "hacked" that wasnt an account whos info was willingly shared with others

Please, do share with us your vast in-depth expertise. Do you work directly with SE's account recovery team that you can make such bold claims?
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#56 Sep 16 2013 at 2:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Does any remember in FFXI in west saru,windurst (well I think it was east) with the big cliff right outside the entrance, with the long line of like 20 something fishing bots? lol
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Yeah before they put the patrol gobbies in Smiley: laugh
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i mean in all my years of playing ffxi ive NEVER heard of an acciunt getting "hacked" that wasnt an account whos info was willingly shared with others

You probably won't believe me/him, but I have a friend whose account was stolen in FFXI and moved to another server, stripped, and turned into a RMT shiller before the task force got involved. At the time, he didn't use a token, which was his mistake. He never gave his info out, since none of his real life friends played, and me and another person were his only real contacts in-game.


Same here, Pravus of Seraph (at the time. He's on Bismarck now.) He didn't have a token and picked up a trojan from FFXI-Atlas or one of the other sites when they were all getting infected with bad ads. Got hacked right in the middle of tanking Gulool Ja Ja. His character suddenly disconnected, then when it reconnected his girlfriend started yelling that it wasn't him that logged back on. They changed his password before he could wrest control back, logged in, and warped right out of the fight. (With our main tank down and our main WHM freaking out, needless to say we all wiped.)

The account was on the loose for less than two hours before the GMs got it but they stripped him of 20 million gil, that much again in ancient currency, and transferred everything off the char that wasn't rare/ex. He had to apply for a full character restore - which took three months - and they ended up rolling him back a few days and he lost a little bit of stuff, but no biggie at the time compared to everything else he got back, like his stage 4 Apocalypse.

The tokens were relatively new and cost $10 at the time, but they absolutely would have saved him months of grief. Smiley: frown

I believe the app version of the tokens is free.
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#59 Sep 16 2013 at 2:29 PM Rating: Default
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I dont feel bad for anyone that got hacked if you dont get a token for your game it will happen one day and thats when your gonna be kicking your self and dont get me wrong im notgonna call people dumb over not getting one some ppl have bad luck


This.

If you're going to play an MMO that *you know* you're going to put some serious hours in then you need an authenticator of some sorts, especially if you're too lazy to come up with a separate password. In this day and age if you can't be bothered to at least use a token, a mobile app, or a unique password for the game you quite frankly you deserve whatever happens.
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The easiest way to combat it is to not only not purchase gil, but rally against those who do. Too many people are quick to turn a blind eye at the real issue, that's the people buying it, not the one's selling it. To just sit back and expect SE to come swooping in on their white horse and save the game from the players themselves is just as it sounds, fantastical. I've excluded people from my friend list and actually belonged to a guild in the past that has kicked a few members for purchasing currency. And they had the audacity to brag about it, because they are used to the norm of people not saying anything, or worse yet, holding their hand out. That is all. :)
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The easiest way to combat it is to not only not purchase gil, but rally against those who do. Too many people are quick to turn a blind eye at the real issue, that's the people buying it, not the one's selling it. To just sit back and expect SE to come swooping in on their white horse and save the game from the players themselves is just as it sounds, fantastical. I've excluded people from my friend list and actually belonged to a guild in the past that has kicked a few members for purchasing currency. And they had the audacity to brag about it, because they are used to the norm of people not saying anything, or worse yet, holding their hand out. That is all. :)


Absolutely right. And good job. Rate up.
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Bots arent why the economy is so low. The economy is low because everyone and their mother can make their own stuff and sell it. When you have 30 different people selling silver ore, all undercutting each other you arent going to make alot of money. Thats not a RMT issue, as they are hurt by this. No its a lack of excess gil in game coupled with a lack of need for crafted items. BTW Im on excalibur too.
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I see alot of Mining bots outside of Copperbell mines yesterday night, Literally like 12 of them, They are multiplying rapidly, Teleporting everywhere, Kinda aggravating as they have normal names, Im guessing they are hacked accounts from people who tried to use RMT websites.
#64DuoMaxwellxx, Posted: Sep 16 2013 at 2:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well i did say IVE never heard of. just because ididnt hear of it doesnt mean it didnt happen. also catwho well i DID say someone getting a virus off a site was the exception did i not? but 90% of tha "hacks" are idiots sharing their account info.... even this very thead mentions ppl getting "hacked" by giving out their info for power lving... ummm thats not being hacked thats being stupid and getting scammed theres a difference between the two
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I just really hope they're careful about getting people their accounts back if they've been hacked.

Pretty much every in-game spammer right now is a hacked account. I mean, you can tell just from their lore-appropriate names.

These RMT sure aren't buying their own copies of the game.

Edited, Sep 16th 2013 10:56am by LucasNox

You can get a lore-appropriate name that's also unique with just a button press at character creation.
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Natural selection. The ones with a brain
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Hi. I hope you get your account compromised through no fault of your own. Then I can have a laugh and insult you.


Edited, Sep 16th 2013 1:03pm by PhoenixOmbre

Yeah well, good luck with that one... ^.^/


Why? Do you think it inconceivable that SE's security could be breached, bypassing even authenticators? Or are you simply under the delusion that you are somehow special and nothing could possibly happen to you?

Of course many cases of stolen accounts are the owner's fault. But do not assume that this is 100% of all cases. And don't assume that because you have some technical knowledge that everyone should automatically undertand things the way you do.
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#67 Sep 16 2013 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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I also dont feel sorry for anyone that got their account banned, its not hard to keep your account protected:

•Use the security token
•Don't use the same login and password that you do for every other game. Blizzard and Rift both have had every account and password stolen.
•Don't buy gil
•Don't pay to power level
•Don't go to any site affiliated with them
•Don't click blindly on email links
•Keep your computer protected, use antivirus, check for maleware and spyware often
•If your going to steal movies and music then do some research on how to protect yourself
•Don't give your login info to anyone, no one will ask for your password that works for SE
And for god's sake stay away from the Chinese **** sites. They are loaded with viruses and key loggers
•Keep your're gaming computer seperate from all your other stuff, I rarely even open a web browser on my gaming computer


Man, I was right there with you until the bolded part, just don't have that kind of self control.....LOL
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#68 Sep 16 2013 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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Altair wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
i mean in all my years of playing ffxi ive NEVER heard of an acciunt getting "hacked" that wasnt an account whos info was willingly shared with others

You probably won't believe me/him, but I have a friend whose account was stolen in FFXI and moved to another server, stripped, and turned into a RMT shiller before the task force got involved. At the time, he didn't use a token, which was his mistake. He never gave his info out, since none of his real life friends played, and me and another person were his only real contacts in-game.


It's absolutely possible he used the same username/password as he had used on another account whose credentials were stolen.
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All fifty users of Windows phones have yet to complain too much about it.

We complain but nobody hears us Smiley: frown

I hope they eventually make one for Windows Phone. I've been using a software token on my android tablet instead.
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I dont want to have to use a token. It's a lot of extra trouble logging in, especially since you have to input it each time the server is full and you have to relog just to get the world-list during weekends.

I shouldnt be the only one keeping my account safe. SE should make it harder for them to login from lets say... the other side of the world... when clearly i do not play from that location... atleast not let them login from there without an e-mail confirmation or something.

I dont use the same password twice on any website, i have an second email account just for FFXI and FFXIV. Plus i dont use my gaming computer to look for ****. Not to mention i dont login on my FFXI(V) email from anywhere other than my gaming rig either. If that isnt enough to not get hacked, SE is doing something terribly wrong.

I've reported every single RMT so far i've seen shouting or gotten a tell from, three days later, most of them are still around. It's gotten to the point where i'm slowly giving up. Which is probably exactly what they want, but still. SE really needs to step up and stop the blatant RMT abuse in this game before it ruins it. Not economy wise, but fun wise. Cant even get into town now without having to blacklist yet another 2-3 people first.
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Thevantis wrote:
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All fifty users of Windows phones have yet to complain too much about it.

We complain but nobody hears us Smiley: frown

I hope they eventually make one for Windows Phone. I've been using a software token on my android tablet instead.


Could be worse. You could own a Vita. Smiley: cry

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OK I know no one wants to hear it but let's face it...

FFXIV is DYING!!!!!!!!!!!
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before they put the patrol gobbies in Smiley: laugh


I remember this one little corner of the Dunes, just past the tangled tree roots, where the patrol goblins didn't aggro. Every time I went by that spot there was this writhing pile of fishbots, one directly on top of the other, all flicking their rods around at different times. Because they were all different races, as well, you'd have some rods near the ground, some high into the air, the names totally mashed together to form this indistinguishable conglomerate. They looked like a hakutaku named ▒░▒░▒▒. Smiley: grin


Edited, Sep 16th 2013 8:44pm by KaneKitty
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I'm in Central Thanalan right now on Ultros, just across the bridge on Soot Creek, watching two bots teleport all over the place mining.

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I dont want to have to use a token. It's a lot of extra trouble logging in, especially since you have to input it each time the server is full and you have to relog just to get the world-list during weekends.

I shouldnt be the only one keeping my account safe. SE should make it harder for them to login from lets say... the other side of the world... when clearly i do not play from that location... atleast not let them login from there without an e-mail confirmation or something.

I dont use the same password twice on any website, i have an second email account just for FFXI and FFXIV. Plus i dont use my gaming computer to look for ****. Not to mention i dont login on my FFXI(V) email from anywhere other than my gaming rig either. If that isnt enough to not get hacked, SE is doing something terribly wrong.

I've reported every single RMT so far i've seen shouting or gotten a tell from, three days later, most of them are still around. It's gotten to the point where i'm slowly giving up. Which is probably exactly what they want, but still. SE really needs to step up and stop the blatant RMT abuse in this game before it ruins it. Not economy wise, but fun wise. Cant even get into town now without having to blacklist yet another 2-3 people first.


And have you gotten hacked?

The security token isn't absolutely necessary if you follow the practices that you do, but not everyone cares to go to those extremes. Two factor authentication in the form of a security token gives the masses 99%+ assurance that their account is secure.

Keep in mind, it can increase your security also. Call it a safety net. No matter how careful you are, sometimes sh%t happens.

I do agree with you on the IP check, but I was under the impression that they had implemented this to some extent, locking accounts temporarily.

Edited, Sep 16th 2013 10:14pm by Pickins
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I'm in Central Thanalan right now on Ultros, just across the bridge on Soot Creek, watching two bots teleport all over the place mining.

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And have you reported them in game? I've started reporting everyone I see.
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