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#1 Sep 17 2013 at 12:15 PM Rating: Excellent
This was posted within the 9.5 on Forbes thread, but wanted to post it here, too, because Metacritic is perhaps the most relevant of all gaming review scores.

Good review scores are great and all, but the real test will be how this game has evolved a year or two from now.

Keep it going, Yoshi-P!
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#2 Sep 17 2013 at 2:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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#3 Sep 17 2013 at 2:38 PM Rating: Excellent
Thank you, Hairspray.

Effing Google!

Funny thing about the negative reviews... the vast majority of them are about the server issues, which were resolved a couple weeks ago. That's unfortunate... the user ratings would have been much higher had SE known it would have such a hit on its hands.

Very glad though to see that the professional reviewers are rating the game based on actual gameplay.

Seriously, who would have predicted an 85% score back in 2010?

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#4 Sep 17 2013 at 2:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thayos wrote:
Thank you, Hairspray.

Effing Google!


I used "Moogle" Smiley: grin

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#5 Sep 17 2013 at 2:40 PM Rating: Excellent
Love it!
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#6 Sep 17 2013 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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This is the best for the google impared people.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=metacritic+FFXIV&l=1

Hope it teaches some at the same time :)
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#7 Sep 17 2013 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Sounds about right to me!
#8 Sep 17 2013 at 4:59 PM Rating: Excellent
I use lmgtfy.com all the time! Best site ever.
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#9 Sep 17 2013 at 5:07 PM Rating: Default
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Thayos wrote:
Seriously, who would have predicted an 85% score back in 2010?


After 3 years? Sounds legit to me.
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#10 Sep 17 2013 at 8:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Yeah, SE used its time with the new game wisely!

I am also glad most reviewers are done crying over FFXIV being p2p. Hearing about how it should be free was getting old... I'm glad Yoshi-P stood up and said "enough."
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#11 Sep 17 2013 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
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TESO announced P2P with Cash Shop and people are calling murder.
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#12 Sep 17 2013 at 10:27 PM Rating: Good
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TESO announced P2P with Cash Shop and people are calling murder.


I suppose it depends what they put in it.

WoW has a cash shop too. Somehow the world has not come to an end.
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#13 Sep 17 2013 at 10:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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TESO announced P2P with Cash Shop and people are calling murder.


I think this is a far better option than F2P/cash shop, because you still get the quality that you can only get with P2P games.

You can count on everything in the cash shop being pure fluff items.

Keep in mind, Yoshi-P said if FFXIV ever did go F2P, then the game would probably remain P2P but maybe just have some F2P servers. It's pretty clear that P2P is the way to go, otherwise, more developers would just launch their games as F2P.

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#14 Sep 17 2013 at 10:34 PM Rating: Good
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funny just about every single negative review is over the launch log in issue. all are like rated 0.

game would be about a 90-95 if you counted people who are rating it based on the game not the login issues the first week.
#15 Sep 17 2013 at 10:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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game would be about a 90-95 if you counted people who are rating it based on the game not the login issues the first week.


Yep. And deservedly so!
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#16 Sep 18 2013 at 1:55 AM Rating: Default
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Keep in mind, Yoshi-P said if FFXIV ever did go F2P, then the game would probably remain P2P but maybe just have some F2P servers. It's pretty clear that P2P is the way to go, otherwise, more developers would just launch their games as F2P.


If you simply think logically this is what you will come up with.

Free to play makes more money, however free to play means you have to give the game away as a free download.

If you launch as pay to play, you can sell boxes for $30-60. Wait 12 months, go free to play (this is what I can see XIV doing just as those others are going to do).

You just got the best of both worlds. Publishers aren't launching as p2p because it's the better option, they are doing it because they can sell you the game that way and get a lump of money upfront.
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The negative reviews due to server issues remind me of the Amazon reviewers that rate a product low because it shipped later than they expected or the box was dented.
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#18 Sep 18 2013 at 5:54 AM Rating: Decent
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The negative reviews due to server issues remind me of the Amazon reviewers that rate a product low because it shipped later than they expected or the box was dented.


Complaining because an online only game is unplayable for well over a week seems a pretty valid complaint to me.
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#19 Sep 18 2013 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I think 85/100 is pretty fair and mostly accurate. Login issues aside, you can't ask reviewers to simply ignore not being able to login to the game. However, it seems that most of the reviewers actually gave weight to the ACTUAL gameplay instead of bashing a wonderful game because of launch issues. I think there is a happy medium between bashing and blind fanboism with FFXIV. Did the game have issues? Yes. Is the game awesome? Yes.
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Droxy wrote:
The negative reviews due to server issues remind me of the Amazon reviewers that rate a product low because it shipped later than they expected or the box was dented.


Complaining because an online only game is unplayable for well over a week seems a pretty valid complaint to me.


How can one review a game's "Gameplay" if they can't or don't actually "Play" the game? Smiley: dubious Thus one should wait until they can actually play the game before they rate the contents of the game. Complain about the servers on the SE forums. Smiley: lol
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#21 Sep 18 2013 at 8:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Keep in mind, Yoshi-P said if FFXIV ever did go F2P, then the game would probably remain P2P but maybe just have some F2P servers. It's pretty clear that P2P is the way to go, otherwise, more developers would just launch their games as F2P.


I think SE has learned through FFXI that P2P is the best way to make more money over longer periods of time. By having a few F2P servers, SE could keep the game P2P for its gamers who enjoy P2P, and then there could be a few servers with limited versions of the game and the typical F2P pay walls. I'm actually surprised that kind of setup isn't more common.
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I can just imagine a F2P server's specific blocks: $5 for your airship pass, $10 for your chocobo, $1 access per dungeon raid, etc.

By the time you pay for all that stuff a la carte you might as well have just paid a **** sub fee.
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preludes wrote:
Droxy wrote:
The negative reviews due to server issues remind me of the Amazon reviewers that rate a product low because it shipped later than they expected or the box was dented.

Complaining because an online only game is unplayable for well over a week seems a pretty valid complaint to me.

How can one review a game's "Gameplay" if they can't or don't actually "Play" the game? Smiley: dubious Thus one should wait until they can actually play the game before they rate the contents of the game. Complain about the servers on the SE forums. Smiley: lol

You completely missed preludes point. Shipped-late and dented-box complaints are not analogous to can't-play complaints for FFXIV.
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preludes wrote:
Droxy wrote:
The negative reviews due to server issues remind me of the Amazon reviewers that rate a product low because it shipped later than they expected or the box was dented.


Complaining because an online only game is unplayable for well over a week seems a pretty valid complaint to me.


It is a completely valid complaint.

It is not a review of the product.
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I've been a FFXIV hater ever since 1.0 released and ruined the brand. Luckily some old friends talked me into trying Beta 3 and the rest was history. SE had restored my confidence so much during the beta. Ironically, I was now defending SE for the server issues following the Phase 3 and the launch. Maybe it was because of my IT background, but I knew the servers were overloaded and SE obviously wasn't ready for that many people. Yoshi later confirmed my hunch which proved beyond doubt, SE was really taken back by the support. People need to realize that if the game itself wasn't ready, FFXIV would of had many update patches. This wasn't the case, the majority of issues were server side. SE communicated their issues and fixed them in a timely manner. Maybe not soon enough for some people, but these server expansions weren't easy to do. SE risked destabilizing the entire network if they failed to do it right. In essence, Square put it all on the line with FFXIV ARR much like they did in the late 80's when this sleeper title called Final Fantasy was supposed to be the company's final project.

I'm giving FFXIV ARR a solid 9.0. Thank you Yoshi for this wonderful game.
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Keep in mind, Yoshi-P said if FFXIV ever did go F2P, then the game would probably remain P2P but maybe just have some F2P servers. It's pretty clear that P2P is the way to go, otherwise, more developers would just launch their games as F2P.


I think SE has learned through FFXI that P2P is the best way to make more money over longer periods of time. By having a few F2P servers, SE could keep the game P2P for its gamers who enjoy P2P, and then there could be a few servers with limited versions of the game and the typical F2P pay walls. I'm actually surprised that kind of setup isn't more common.


It's non-existent because it doesn't work. Games that offer bad f2p models don't get players, the problem simply is that there have been really good f2p models and f2p players won't put up with p2w type systems anymore (even in Japan). You have to be one thing or the other or you achieve nothing by doing it.
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