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#1 Sep 20 2013 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I play next to my spouse who works nights, and who is usually asleep during the times that I play. I can't do voice chat because that would wake her up. However, any time I queue up for a dungeon with DF, I am being increasingly pressured by people to use a VoIP chat program.

The highest dungeon I have finished is Brayflox. I have noticed that dungeon difficulty is ramping up. My question is, is it possible to do late and endgame content without voice chat?
#2 Sep 20 2013 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I am at the same stage as you but no one ever asked me to use voice chat.
But I notice that people are lazy with typing thought.
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#3 Sep 20 2013 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
I can do better without some jackass yelling at me the entire time what to do. So no, I won't do voice chat.

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#4 Sep 20 2013 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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As a gamepad user voice chat would be advantageous, I'm surprised there is no in game client. Unfortunately no-one would understand my thick Scottish accent so the point is moot (for me). :p
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#5 Sep 20 2013 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't use voice chat until I started attempting Titan Hard Mode with my FC. Passed all the other lvl 50 content (Ifrit/Garuda HM included) without it. It's mostly about everyone knowing the fight and knowing what role they have to play.
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#6 Sep 20 2013 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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Voice chat is very useful when you have a party that does not knows the fight. On Ifrit Hard it is essential if people does not know the sequence and it helps for the tanks to communicate with each other. Garuda is not so much in you have people that knows what to do. Titan and new content will be need it indeed. The plus side is that you don't have to talk, the must important part of voice chat is for the leader to be able to send commands to the party that can cost you to win or loose. Which voice chat is a lot faster than typing.
#7 Sep 20 2013 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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SirKael wrote:
I play next to my spouse who works nights, and who is usually asleep during the times that I play. I can't do voice chat because that would wake her up. However, any time I queue up for a dungeon with DF, I am being increasingly pressured by people to use a VoIP chat program.

The highest dungeon I have finished is Brayflox. I have noticed that dungeon difficulty is ramping up. My question is, is it possible to do late and endgame content without voice chat?


Yep. I'm up to Titan Hm without vocie chat. The key is finding a group of like-minded folks, and learning by trial, error, and youtube. You can accomplish calls with sound effects attached to macroed chat functions (needed for ifrit and Dhome Chimera when everyone needs to run in, for example).

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#8 Sep 20 2013 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Yea for the first time in my mmo career I'm going to have to use a headset. Personally things work so much better when you dont have to stop and type.
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#9 Sep 20 2013 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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My FC uses Mumble (we also have guilds in most MMO's, so it is almsot neccesary just to keep up with people when we are all in different games)... but unless its Guild Wars 2 guild missions, we mainly use VoIP to ******** and talk about fabrics and or whatever.

I'm in the same boat as Soloman, and I use a controller to play as well, and KB only for typing, or to hit the button to talk on Mumble.
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#10 Sep 20 2013 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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I host a mumble server for our FC, its mostly for fun and asking questions about stuff in the game, but we do use it for dungeons, makes instructions that much quicker when you don't have to type it out, you can just say, hey, the AOE is coming :p
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#11 Sep 20 2013 at 10:52 AM Rating: Default
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Its just so much easier to make calls on the fly during a dungeon...most good FC's will require it as its not only easier to coordinate but more fun actually knowing the people you play with.

Jealous of the guy whos FC uses mumble...the community of FFXIV seems stuck in the past and all use ventrillo...not only that they are strangely extremely defensive over suggesting another voice chat that is far superior in quality.

I really dislike how I have to mute my game, deal with every single persons volume, deal with people who sound like they are talking through a drive thru order speaker...and the obvious latency between chat and hearing it.

Whenever I suggest TS3 or mumble is better the point of voice quality flies right over their head and they think its about gimmicky toys and addons or something....

And that's IF people actually use voice chat...lots of PS3 players who cant/refuse to use it...on top of refusing to watch boss fights on youtube...makes things a lot more difficult for everyone imo.

There are smart phone apps for voice chat, and they work really well too....

Game needs its own voice chat imo....

#12 Sep 20 2013 at 10:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't wait for the day when elitists decide that voice chat is a crutch for the weak and real pros do it with a keyboard Smiley: lol

I'm not going to use voice chat, probably ever. The TV is on and I don't want some idiot screaming over whatever show I'm half-watching while I play whack-a-mole with health bars.
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#13 Sep 20 2013 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Strangerous wrote:

Game needs its own voice chat imo....


Actually Yoshida mentioned that there will not be any in-game voice chat. Because then it would become mandatory and many people really dislike having to use voice communication to play a game.

EDIT: I'm a jerk.

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#14 Sep 20 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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I only use voice chat when I'm part of a guild event or if I'm on a guild dungeon run. When I do DF with others, I offer to jump onto any voice server that they might be using. So far in this game, i haven't found a DF pug that used one.
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SolomonGrundy wrote:
As a gamepad user voice chat would be advantageous, I'm surprised there is no in game client. Unfortunately no-one would understand my thick Scottish accent so the point is moot (for me). :p


Considering they can cope with my husband's really strong Geordie accent and my not as strong one - you'd be ok!
#16 Sep 20 2013 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps I'm too archaic or "old school", but I just prefer text chat over voice. Especially in a game like FFXIV. I like that with text I can imagine what the character sounds like, and not the player. Nothing I hate worse than a cute little Lalafell who turns out to be a 40 yr old dude, or a huge male Roegadyne with the voice of a teenage girl. It's jarring.
#17 Sep 20 2013 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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Hardly needed.

Sure, it's not like XI where you can type and not really hinder your timing of weaponskills and abilities. But if everyone simply stops before the boss for a second to run through the strategy, then nothing even remotely like that is needed. People are smart enough to see adds spawn, and even then, a quick "pop" in chat is enough to get them to notice if they did not do so already.

It's an international game. People arent going to make out what others say anyhow with all the diffirent accents and voices. Besides, i really dont need the swearing cuss-storm of some of the twelve year olds playing this game like it's Call of Duty or something just because you're not exactly in the place they want you to stand.
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#18 Sep 20 2013 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
SirKael wrote:
I play next to my spouse who works nights, and who is usually asleep during the times that I play. I can't do voice chat because that would wake her up. However, any time I queue up for a dungeon with DF, I am being increasingly pressured by people to use a VoIP chat program.

The highest dungeon I have finished is Brayflox. I have noticed that dungeon difficulty is ramping up. My question is, is it possible to do late and endgame content without voice chat?


Yes I have never used it and am doing end game content. With that said, it makes things 100x easier if you do use voice-chat and I fully plan to once I find a decent FC.

Even if you go on just to *listen* that will help the rest of your team immensely, especially when you aren't familiar with the mechanics and/or haven't read up on the dungeon.

I will quote comedian Chris Rock and say this though:

"You can drive a car with your feet if you want to, but that doesn't make it a good f**king idea!"
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Strangerous wrote:
Jealous of the guy whos FC uses mumble...the community of FFXIV seems stuck in the past and all use ventrillo...not only that they are strangely extremely defensive over suggesting another voice chat that is far superior in quality.


Except that it isn't, requires more work to setup properly, and in the end still sounds worse.
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Strangerous wrote:
Jealous of the guy whos FC uses mumble...the community of FFXIV seems stuck in the past and all use ventrillo...not only that they are strangely extremely defensive over suggesting another voice chat that is far superior in quality.


Except that it isn't, requires more work to setup properly, and in the end still sounds worse.

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#21 Sep 20 2013 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard someone saying that they didn't want to spend the resources on implementing an in-game voice chat feature. Which is fine, they did their research and calculated their profit margins, etc, so enough people must be ambilivent about it.

I, for one, would LOVE an in-game voice chat for link-shells and parties that you could choose to automatically participate in or not. I play with RL friends a lot and I'd really like to be able to chat with my 3 friends while we are doing a dungeon, as typing is difficult while holding a PS3 controller and tanking : D

Vent/TS/mumble/skype is fine for those that play the PC version, but I can't run Ventrillo in the background on my PS3, I'd have to bring my lap top out to my living room (which I have done) to use those services. Not to mention I'd love to be able to bark orders in a difficult encounter when I see something going wrong - I love FFXIV because it feels very in-the-moment to me, and having to type things takes me out of that.

/shrug - I hope they get everything else fixed quickly so they can move on to the marginal improvements like in-game voice chat. Even Everquest 1 has in-game voice chat...c'mon!
#22 Sep 20 2013 at 6:52 PM Rating: Decent
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It's not necessary, but you save peoples time if you can atleast hear it. In my clan I strongly suggest you get in teamspeak with us, and if you don't you'll find yourself no traiding with us. (on anything that matters)
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#23 Sep 20 2013 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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SolomonGrundy wrote:
As a gamepad user voice chat would be advantageous, I'm surprised there is no in game client. Unfortunately no-one would understand my thick Scottish accent so the point is moot (for me). :p


Shoot don't have to understand, I could listen to the Scottish accent all day haha.
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#24 Sep 20 2013 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
If you have a smart phone.. Mumble ftw! It has a free app on both Apple Store an Android market.
I bought a 3 month Mumble server (now I know how to get free ones, so ill change over at a later date) for the use of people I play with. They use their phones (I'm on PC) and it really works well.
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