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#1 Sep 21 2013 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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... and PvP blahblah...

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/09/20/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-update-brings-pvp-housing-and-more

You can lock and baleete this if it is ye olde news, but I am super pumped for my own digs!
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#2 Sep 21 2013 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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Am not living in Limsa Lominsa because I need all the gil I can get.

Guess I'll go live next to Kan-E-Senna in Gridania.

Then again I may as well living in Limsa, because Blacksmithing is holding me hostage without ransom there.


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#3 Sep 21 2013 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Honestly, I don't know how it's going to work yet, but I can't wait to see. I don't know where I would live. I love the water feature in Gridania, but the library is cute in the innroom for Ul'Dah... I haven't seen Limsa's rent-a-room yet... But then the player housing might deviate from those archetypes. I have no idea.

I just want to have a mog house again. GLEE!!
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As much as i am looking foward to the housing, the treasure hunting and hard mode on specific mobs that have me really excited for.
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I think, possibly, housing is going to be like Runescape - where you can add rooms. build furniture etc.
Yoshi seems to have got a lot of his ideas from that game.
I.E his depiction of joint FTP/Subscription worlds is what happens there
(only difference is they have REAL regional worlds and themed worlds and you can freely world hop all day long - no charge.)
Of course the graphics are crappy but overall it can be an absorbing game.
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#6uadarthmaul, Posted: Sep 21 2013 at 5:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I never understood why people cared about housing... it is a colossal waste of time for the developers. If you want to play barbie doll house, go play the sims.
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Not sure if I'll buy my own or co-op with my FC. I know you get an base XP bonus on DoH and DoL when you buy shared housing, but we don't yet know what the bonus is for private housing. Time to start saving up Gil!
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uadarthmaul wrote:
I never understood why people cared about housing... it is a colossal waste of time for the developers. If you want to play barbie doll house, go play the sims.


Yeah, fantasy in a fantasy game is clearly a waste of time.
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uadarthmaul wrote:
I never understood why people cared about housing... it is a colossal waste of time for the developers. If you want to play barbie doll house, go play the sims.


It has nothing to do with a "barbie house". Here, let me show you my mog house:

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See all that stuff? That's from the events every year. Up until the most recent years, I did every single event. ****, back in the day I even wrote a walkthrough for the original Summerfest. To me, it's a place to display what you've won over your time with the game.

Eventually, you get the best gear, and that gear gets replaced. But your house stands in tribute of your time (mis)spent on the game. It is a collection of those things that mean something to you, that have value to you.

Plus then there's the idea of storing extra gear there, possibly mannequins will return so you can show off the armor sets you don't use but just cannot convert or sell because, ****, you worked hard for them... And it just makes the world more rich to literally have a place to call home in it.

Every other MMO I've played has had some version of this outside of WoW... and oddly enough I find myself least able to stand WoW. Because it never felt like home, like I ever left a mark there. This could be why.
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#10 Sep 22 2013 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
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Brings back memories of my Mog house that I maxed out with wicker baskets for the lightning bonus I needed to desynth beastmen helms. :-)

Happy memories.
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#11 Sep 22 2013 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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I want one for more space to fill up. I would love a house that would be full of pots to grow crystals , unless growing crystals is illegal in most city states in ARR.Smiley: frown
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Honestly, I can't wait for both player and Free Company housing. Now, if only I could put my little slice of Eorzea in Coerthas (I want snow, damnit!). It'll be winter all year round in my burg. Smiley: nod

Though, the hair salon might be nice as well. I remember PSU having that, and it was used to great extent by people who had gotten bored of looking "the same". Now, if it added a couple of "extra" hairstyles that weren't available at creation, then it'd be a veritable (albeit, hopefully "small") gil cow for a little while... lol

#13 Sep 22 2013 at 7:54 AM Rating: Default
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Whitering wrote:
Honestly, I can't wait for both player and Free Company housing. Now, if only I could put my little slice of Eorzea in Coerthas (I want snow, damnit!). It'll be winter all year round in my burg. Smiley: nod

Though, the hair salon might be nice as well. I remember PSU having that, and it was used to great extent by people who had gotten bored of looking "the same". Now, if it added a couple of "extra" hairstyles that weren't available at creation, then it'd be a veritable (albeit, hopefully "small") gil cow for a little while... lol


if we're listing things we'd like with ref to PSU (by the way i miss and wish it was still up) why not add the interactive decorations like the punching bag or yoga mat?
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Whitering wrote:
Honestly, I can't wait for both player and Free Company housing. Now, if only I could put my little slice of Eorzea in Coerthas (I want snow, damnit!). It'll be winter all year round in my burg. Smiley: nod

Though, the hair salon might be nice as well. I remember PSU having that, and it was used to great extent by people who had gotten bored of looking "the same". Now, if it added a couple of "extra" hairstyles that weren't available at creation, then it'd be a veritable (albeit, hopefully "small") gil cow for a little while... lol



So, would Clothcraft be able to make wigs then?
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#15uadarthmaul, Posted: Sep 22 2013 at 8:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am familiar with your rationale... it is just a complete waste to me. I don't play games in order to have to justify my time by decorating a fake house with stuff in a videogame. I want them to focus on content. Again, if you want to decorate a house, go play the sims.
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So, would Clothcraft be able to make wigs then?


Well, since I'm starting to work on weaving, yes, yes it could/should/would. lol They'd need an entirely new dye for wigs, though...rainbow!
#17 Sep 22 2013 at 8:11 AM Rating: Good
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uadarthmaul wrote:
I am familiar with your rationale... it is just a complete waste to me. I don't play games in order to have to justify my time by decorating a fake house with stuff in a videogame. I want them to focus on content. Again, if you want to decorate a house, go play the sims.


So, let's look at this thread, shall we?

7 people who want housing.

1 person who doesn't.

Hey, why don't you go play WoW. There's tons of content there, and no housing!
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#18 Sep 22 2013 at 9:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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uadarthmaul wrote:
it is just a complete waste to me. I don't play games in order to have to justify my time by decorating a fake house with stuff in a videogame... I play games in order to dress a fake catgirl in cute clothes


Fixed it for you, man.

We're all playing games to enjoy ourselves, and the more diverse content and sidequests a game offers the better it is for everyone.
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#19 Sep 22 2013 at 10:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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uadarthmaul wrote:
I am familiar with your rationale... it is just a complete waste to me. I don't play games in order to have to justify my time by decorating a fake house with stuff in a videogame. I want them to focus on content. Again, if you want to decorate a house, go play the sims.


So, let's look at this thread, shall we?

7 8 people who want housing.

1 person who doesn't.

Hey, why don't you go play WoW. There's tons of content there, and no housing!


Fixed. I want housing too, because maybe I do like barbie decorating, or maybe like you said earlier, it's a place to show off things you have done in the game.
My homes (yes multiple) in EQ2 were places where I could spend hours, displaying my trophies from raids, quest items from events, or just other things that I had acquired, and were MY accomplishments.
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#20 Sep 22 2013 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Whitering wrote:
Honestly, I can't wait for both player and Free Company housing. Now, if only I could put my little slice of Eorzea in Coerthas (I want snow, damnit!). It'll be winter all year round in my burg. Smiley: nod

Though, the hair salon might be nice as well. I remember PSU having that, and it was used to great extent by people who had gotten bored of looking "the same". Now, if it added a couple of "extra" hairstyles that weren't available at creation, then it'd be a veritable (albeit, hopefully "small") gil cow for a little while... lol


PSO2 has both(well "room" and "team room" but they may as well be houses)
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#21 Sep 23 2013 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's not just about decorating, although I spent a fortune on my MH when I played FFXI.

Frankly, I want player housing so I can craft in peace. I am tired of trying to find a relatively clear spot to craft in town or at a sanctuary, especially if I need to move items to/from my retainers. Even with the auto-logout feature, the Summoning Bell is a very crowded and laggy spot at the market areas.
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It's not just about decorating, although I spent a fortune on my MH when I played FFXI.

Frankly, I want player housing so I can craft in peace. I am tired of trying to find a relatively clear spot to craft in town or at a sanctuary, especially if I need to move items to/from my retainers. Even with the auto-logout feature, the Summoning Bell is a very crowded and laggy spot at the market areas.


This ^^. I hate crafting on top of people and having access to my retainer right there in my mog house would be awesome. FC housing would also be awesome especially if people were crafting things for each other or for raids.
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I'm totally looking forward to housing. It can't come soon enough!
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Any expected date of release? My future Shantotto Minion needs her domain! Me being her loyal subject must prepare the loft for her majesty when she arrives!
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i kind of hope they set up a way to host parties in the homes itself, as well as set it up where you can open it up to players and allow then to search out your look and see how you decorated it {bit of of PSU ref.}
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Since each zone is instanced and you can literally see the entire neighbourhood, one would assume this to be a given. Though dynamic outside decorations may not be in the cards, they could make it a feature if they have enough money dedicated to it.
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I started taking carpentry up today. There's going to be a huge demand for furniture. I know there is and how Ash Lumber sells for 7k a stack right now for 99. It's going to skyrocket in price and I'll end up making millions! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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I'd like to see Player housing and FC housing similar to EQ2's system. But without the upkeep costs. Invite people in, let them look around, etc. Near infinite decorating possibilities. Won't be able to have that level of decoration, but I definitely want more than FFXI, more ability to adjust locations, rotation, etc.

Setting up shops inside your house would definitely be a bonus. I miss the bazaar system from FFXI. Only having the market place for selling makes it a pain to sell items at times. With the "market place only" system you are always in direct competition with every seller. This may be good for buyers, but not so much for sellers. It also eliminates the ability to capitalize on convenience and impulse buys. There is something to be said about being able to make a fair profit off of people's laziness (convenience costs). I don't consider that gouging, so much as providing a service to those who don't wish to spend the time to go elsewhere and get it cheaper. They could still go find it cheaper elsewhere, but they chose to purchase the slightly higher cost one because of the convenience of it.
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HOUSING VIDEO! LOOKS ******* AMAZING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z_15TJde09E

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Sooooo. grand scale shots we saw of housing is FC I am assuming?
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Setting up shops inside your house would definitely be a bonus. I miss the bazaar system from FFXI. Only having the market place for selling makes it a pain to sell items at times. With the "market place only" system you are always in direct competition with every seller. This may be good for buyers, but not so much for sellers. It also eliminates the ability to capitalize on convenience and impulse buys. There is something to be said about being able to make a fair profit off of people's laziness (convenience costs). I don't consider that gouging, so much as providing a service to those who don't wish to spend the time to go elsewhere and get it cheaper. They could still go find it cheaper elsewhere, but they chose to purchase the slightly higher cost one because of the convenience of it.


That reminds me a lot of PSU's system, whereby everyone got their own room, and you could buy an "upgrade" to include a shop in it (with a coded lock, in case you didn't want anyone to access it). In theory, it's fun, but in practicality, the Market Boards in this game make shops in your house pretty much useless. Though, as you said, FFXI had both, so this could as well, but that would require a whole new dynamic for the retainers (one for Market, one for Bazaar?), and is probably not high on their list of priorities.

Not to mention, much like the previously mentioned FFXI and PSU, a lot of people will just put up hempen underwear for 999,999,999gil, and waste your time looking at their "wares" (or, would that be "wears" in this case).

In any event, I'm just happy for more content that everyone can take part in and utilize...even if they don't need/want to...
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1.0 had player vendors as well.

What was most helpful about it was that you didnt just have things you could offer, you also could put up things you wished to purchase.

For example, you could ask for 200 crystals for 4000 gil, and everyone checking your bazaar could sell you those up to that amount.

Think it also had something about requesting repairs and similar things, really helpful. 2.0 desperately needs this...

Ofcourse, thanks to certain players complaining, that option is out of the field now entirely since you cannot AFK anymore ever...
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1.0's use of retainers over an AH was garbage. Simply put. The Marketplace is head and heels over that. As for a "request" feature, it would have been nice, and they could still implement it via the Marketplace for items at least, but really with the ability to gather any materials you want, it's just laziness if you expect to be served up materials for no time input. As far as I know, Marketplace can sell just about everything.
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