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#1 Sep 29 2013 at 12:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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As anyone can tell you, farming bots and gil sellers are a huge problem in FFXIV. Everyone's list is littered the names of those blacklisted for such actions. You cannot step foot in any of the major cities without your chat window instantly being flooded with spam shouts from the gil sellers. If you go out into the field to gather mats, your always bumping elbows w/ a farming bot. I have recorded and reported as many as I find.

Here are two farming bots I recorded in Than;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7CT5oL_BY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ9n3MqJt2w

Many also say that it's pointless so why bother? As a criminal justice major I have the same feeling when it comes to catching criminals, you arrest them, only to have them released before you are even done writing up the paperwork to process them. So what is the point? The point is that we keep trying and one day get these criminals out of our game. Well, today was that day for me.

I was farming diremite webs for my weaver when i spotted this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_OyxZ2Cb7g

Here is the shout and the response that followed:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/Tat2edsol/Untitled_zps6a575d82.png

Hurray, a GM was in the area. He request any information about the BOT i could provide along w/ her <pos>. I happily gave him all the information i had. He told me the quickest way to get these people reported is to to send a report to the STF at support.na.square-enix.com > FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn > Report bugs or offending players. There is a forum on that page that sends reports directly to the STF.

He thanked me for assisting in bring this player to his attention and not to let these types of players get me down as they are doing everything they can to ban these players even though at times he knows it doesn't seem like it to the community.

This is exactly why I keep reporting, because i know eventually this will happen, they will get caught. So, don't give up and keep reporting them, if you see one somewhere, shout about it, there just might be a GM in the zone.

Happy BOT hunting.
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#2 Sep 29 2013 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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RyanSquires wrote:
He told me the quickest way to get these people reported is to to send a report to the STF at support.na.square-enix.com > FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn > Report bugs or offending players. There is a forum on that page that sends reports directly to the STF.


yes! nice! awesome :) very good to know :) :)

on the subject—do you guys think the RMT / bots / gil farmers / whatever will be mostly gone after a month or two? would it be naive of me to expect it to get better? :)
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#3 Sep 29 2013 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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On Ultros, I have have reported a teleporting mining bot 4 times, 4 days in a row, at 3 different locations.

I'll bet I see the bot again today. The name is Didineja Gogoneja. Seems to really like farming Lightning Shards/Crystals in the Broken Water area.

That being said...I'm not to sure reporting via the in-gaming reporting structure is too useful.

sigh...
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#4 Sep 29 2013 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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chillpickle wrote:
RyanSquires wrote:
He told me the quickest way to get these people reported is to to send a report to the STF at support.na.square-enix.com > FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn > Report bugs or offending players. There is a forum on that page that sends reports directly to the STF.


yes! nice! awesome :) very good to know :) :)

on the subject—do you guys think the RMT / bots / gil farmers / whatever will be mostly gone after a month or two? would it be naive of me to expect it to get better? :)


Well it would be naive to expect it to be completely gone but I'm sure in due time it will have shrank a great deal and it won't be as bad as it is now but then again who knows only time can truly tell.
#5 Sep 29 2013 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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The only way for them to be gone completely is for everyone to simply not buy gil.

As long as there is a market, there will be gilsellers. If it turns out no one is buying their gil, they will reassign their farmers to more profitable games.

In other words, DON'T DATE ROBOTS DON"T BUY GIL.
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#6 Sep 29 2013 at 3:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Catwho wrote:
The only way for them to be gone completely is for everyone to simply not buy gil.

As long as there is a market, there will be gilsellers. If it turns out no one is buying their gil, they will reassign their farmers to more profitable games.

In other words, DON'T DATE ROBOTS DON"T BUY GIL.


Two things:
1: It'll never happen. You will never convince 100% of players to stop doing this. Ever.
2: Even if you somehow could, it would still take a long time before they went away completely. They'd do discounts and specials first before giving up on the market altogether.
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#7 Sep 29 2013 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
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Simool wrote:
On Ultros, I have have reported a teleporting mining bot 4 times, 4 days in a row, at 3 different locations.

I'll bet I see the bot again today. The name is Didineja Gogoneja. Seems to really like farming Lightning Shards/Crystals in the Broken Water area.

That being said...I'm not to sure reporting via the in-gaming reporting structure is too useful.

sigh...


I reported that same exact bot too. I was farming crystals and shards in Broken Water. I saw it in stealth and then fall from the sky on to a node. I marked him and sure enough he tele'd to another node.

I think I know the retainer for the bot as well because he has like 10 stacks of 2000 shards on the MBs.
#8 Sep 30 2013 at 3:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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I am actually amazed at how many hacked characters are still being used by RMT's. With the incessant onslaught of RMT shouts, tells and bots you would think (hope?) the general community would realise that not using a security fob and buying gil off RMT sites results in a high chance of you losing your character, yet every day I see normal named character spamming shouts and tells? I am beginning to see some keyboard mash names though, so maybe there is some hope, but I really don't understand why they can't just park a GM on each server whose sole responsibility would be to zone through the three cities at random to suspend any character shouting RMT ads. I can't for the life of me think of some legal mechanic that stops them from doing this, apart from perhaps trying to investigate the sites being advertised - but they would have the site URL from the initial shout. Banning these characters (even if it's just temp while the account is investigated) would severely limit the Gilsellers ability to sell gil, it would also force them to buy new characters, which SE could then ban and would strangle the resources of the RMT.

It seems like a common sense approach to me, perhaps the size of the task force is not equal to the task?
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#9 Sep 30 2013 at 6:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not sure this is good or bad, but their methods of selling has expanded. They used to use just shout in cities and send tells. Yesterday I noticed they moved into the Yell and Say functions. Either things are going so well and they are going for the kill...or they had to expand their efforts because they are not selling fast enough.

It would be nice if we had a way to blist directly from the chat window.
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Simool wrote:
I'm not sure this is good or bad, but their methods of selling has expanded. They used to use just shout in cities and send tells. Yesterday I noticed they moved into the Yell and Say functions. Either things are going so well and they are going for the kill...or they had to expand their efforts because they are not selling fast enough.

It would be nice if we had a way to blist directly from the chat window.


It's not instant, but if you right click their name and hit 'Send Tell' you can edit the /tell Name Here to be /blacklist add "Name Here" and hit enter. It'll bring of the verification aaaaaaaand done.

Trick is to make sure you have the quotation marks around it, and that you delete the extra space /tell adds after the name.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#11 Sep 30 2013 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
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Kierk wrote:
Simool wrote:
On Ultros, I have have reported a teleporting mining bot 4 times, 4 days in a row, at 3 different locations.

I'll bet I see the bot again today. The name is Didineja Gogoneja. Seems to really like farming Lightning Shards/Crystals in the Broken Water area.

That being said...I'm not to sure reporting via the in-gaming reporting structure is too useful.

sigh...


I reported that same exact bot too. I was farming crystals and shards in Broken Water. I saw it in stealth and then fall from the sky on to a node. I marked him and sure enough he tele'd to another node.

I think I know the retainer for the bot as well because he has like 10 stacks of 2000 shards on the MBs.


This is why I buy 100 shards at a time instead of in bulk. It honestly seems like the 100 shard sellers are real people, while those posting 10 stacks of 1000 are gil sellers.
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#12 Sep 30 2013 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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RyanSquires wrote:


Here is the shout and the response that followed:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/Tat2edsol/Untitled_zps6a575d82.png



10 points for the GM drawing notice to your f-bomb.

Edited, Sep 30th 2013 9:07am by Valkayree
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Valkayree wrote:
Kierk wrote:
Simool wrote:
On Ultros, I have have reported a teleporting mining bot 4 times, 4 days in a row, at 3 different locations.

I'll bet I see the bot again today. The name is Didineja Gogoneja. Seems to really like farming Lightning Shards/Crystals in the Broken Water area.

That being said...I'm not to sure reporting via the in-gaming reporting structure is too useful.

sigh...


I reported that same exact bot too. I was farming crystals and shards in Broken Water. I saw it in stealth and then fall from the sky on to a node. I marked him and sure enough he tele'd to another node.

I think I know the retainer for the bot as well because he has like 10 stacks of 2000 shards on the MBs.


This is why I buy 100 shards at a time instead of in bulk. It honestly seems like the 100 shard sellers are real people, while those posting 10 stacks of 1000 are gil sellers.


I agree. Even if it costs me a bit more, I'd rather buy from the retainer named "Stuffmart" that has a single thing up for a higher price, than a retainer named "gfgfgfgfgf" that has twenty items up for half the price.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#14 Sep 30 2013 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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10 points for the GM drawing notice to your f-bomb.

Edited, Sep 30th 2013 9:07am by Valkayree


Honestly, i thought that too. First thing i thought was "oh great, i'm about to get kicked for using ****, meanwhile, the BOT continues to farm webs."
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#15 Sep 30 2013 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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RyanSquires wrote:
Valkayree wrote:

10 points for the GM drawing notice to your f-bomb.

Edited, Sep 30th 2013 9:07am by Valkayree


Honestly, i thought that too. First thing i thought was "oh great, i'm about to get kicked for using @#%^, meanwhile, the BOT continues to farm webs."


I would have had an oh crap moment myself.

I've dropped the f-bomb on occasion, usually after particularly bad titan fails or after hearing that someone less geared than I has succeeded.
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