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#1 Oct 01 2013 at 8:46 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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From the looks of it, many NAs and EUs seemed to have gatecrashed into JP servers. Perhaps when the World Transfer Service comes along, these people can go back to where they came from.

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#2 Oct 01 2013 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Possibly because for long periods at launch the JP servers we the only ones allowing character creation? I wouldn't blame 'they' for trying to play a game they've bought...
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#3 Oct 01 2013 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
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There are also apparently more JP people playing than NA/EU, if I remember the report on the total number of accounts right.
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#4 Oct 01 2013 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
There are also apparently more JP people playing than NA/EU, if I remember the report on the total number of accounts right.


How is that possible? Smiley: dubious
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Catwho wrote:
There are also apparently more JP people playing than NA/EU, if I remember the report on the total number of accounts right.


How is that possible? Smiley: dubious


Let me dig around and see if I can find the numbers reported by Yoshi in one of the live letters *sigh*
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#6 Oct 01 2013 at 9:07 AM Rating: Excellent
All servers are open to all players, there is no them and us or gtfo and go back to EU/US. In fact the so called JP servers service a much larger area than just Japan, anyone closer to the Pacific servers will be using them. I can't imagine why you call it gatecrashing that is very rude and uncalled for I hate to think how dead the servers would be without all "These people"
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#7 Oct 01 2013 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
Catwho wrote:
There are also apparently more JP people playing than NA/EU, if I remember the report on the total number of accounts right.


I don't think that is correct, NA/EU was crashing from day one being overburdened with attempted logins, the Pacific servers were always very stable and empty because that's where I went until all the crazy stuff was over, never once did I queue, or got the error messages plaguing the NA/EU servers. They have not as far as I know released the current figures but if the server list is anything to go by, it's still NA/EU that has the most servers in which one cannot make a character, has wait times and occasional 9000 errors.
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ragamuffin the Fussy wrote:
Catwho wrote:
There are also apparently more JP people playing than NA/EU, if I remember the report on the total number of accounts right.


I don't think that is correct, NA/EU was crashing from day one being overburdened with attempted logins, the Pacific servers were always very stable and empty because that's where I went until all the crazy stuff was over, never once did I queue, or got the error messages plaguing the NA/EU servers. They have not as far as I know released the current figures but if the server list is anything to go by, it's still NA/EU that has the most servers in which one cannot make a character, has wait times and occasional 9000 errors.


That's because all the JP players are asleep or at school or work when you're trying to log in from NA or EU.

I can't find it now and I have a meeting in four minutes, but I'll keep digging at lunchtime.
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#9 Oct 01 2013 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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Well I believe you Catwho because it's usually that way for any MMO that plays along side the JP. It was something like that in FFXI though you couldn't really tell since there wasn't regional servers. But the jump in population was often significant.
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#10 Oct 01 2013 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
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I can't even find it T_T

I remember seeing the numbers and being surprised myself. It was the same post that mentioned JP players having a roughly 50/50 male/female character split, with NA being skewed 60/40 male/female. (Because I guess some male players in the NA/EU regions are less comfortable playing catgirls.) Also Roegadyn have the smallest population.
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#11 Oct 01 2013 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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What time and time zone did you capture that information? Was it during JP prime time? Look again during NA prime time and you will likely see the roles reversed.

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 1:45pm by elrocco
#12 Oct 01 2013 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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P.S. I am expecting no less than a sub default. Kthxbye.


I think it's safe to expect sub-default on all your posts, simply because I think that is your default posting rating. The rating your posts get is basically an average of your post history, hence, you only have 17 posts and it looks like a lot of sub-d'd so now you start at default or lower until you get your average back up.
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elrocco wrote:
What time and time zone did you capture that information? Was it during JP prime time? Look again during NA prime time and you will likely see the roles reversed.


That's a good point. The servers are still being updated every few hours, and if this was JP primetime, it's quite reasonable that half the JP servers would be locked up tight but none of the NA/EU ones are.
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#14 Oct 01 2013 at 1:51 PM Rating: Excellent
I just checked the Pacific servers and find that most of them are X'd out to character creation including Hades which is a server I have a character on. So..I hopped on to see how many were playing seeing as all US/EU servers are open at the moment. Surprise, surprise Hades is just about empty I checked out Ul'Dah and Gridania and there seem to be more NPC's than players. So I'm thinking character creation isn't that great an indicator of server load.
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#15 Oct 01 2013 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
I can't even find it T_T

I remember seeing the numbers and being surprised myself. It was the same post that mentioned JP players having a roughly 50/50 male/female character split, with NA being skewed 60/40 male/female. (Because I guess some male players in the NA/EU regions are less comfortable playing catgirls.) Also Roegadyn have the smallest population.


I'm guessing it was from this speech at the TGS:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000506.html

I see the gender split in the charts, but not regional subscriber stats. Maybe Yoshi mentions it without an accompanying graphic?
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#16 Oct 01 2013 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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Ah. I'm obviously mis-remembering then. Maybe I made it all up in my head!

What I do absolutely definitely remember was Yoshi P saying that the JP data center problems were worse. Part of that was because their prime time is more concentrated, too. The NA/EU primetimes occur in a rolling wave that spans a good 12 hours, whereas the JP servers get hammered between 9PM and 12AM.

So maybe it wasn't necessarily that the JP data centers had more players overall, but they had more players all trying to log in at the same time.

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 5:32pm by Catwho
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#17 Oct 01 2013 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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Ah. I'm obviously mis-remembering then. Maybe I made it all up in my head!


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#18 Oct 01 2013 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
I remember reading about the JP Prime time. Basically SE, iirc, was aiming for like 200-300k people playing world wide. In JP alone, during JP peak time there were 250k accounts or more trying to log in (was why SE was all happy about records, was a big deal for them as a company).

As to the OP... I'll miss-quote myself from another thread now buried:

I said something like this before wrote:
Stop being racist. Are you saying me being an American Japanese Player, I HAVE to play on the NA Servers? Why? Because my family left Japan generations ago to better themselves that now, in in the year 2013 it is royally @#%^ing me over in a MMO?
That is what you are saying yes? @#%^ off.


I'm not Japanese American, let us make sure that is clear, but I speak for them to the OP (No Japanese American should be ashamed). I play in the JP server Titan because Japan is 14 hours ahead of me in time. It is getting ready to be 9am over there. That means most of their world is off at work or in School on their Wed. Means the server isn't packed. I only have Server Qs on the weekend when I try to log on mid-day..and it is always less then 20 people.
When the realms were packed and everyone was QQing about not being able to log into the NA/EU realms, guess what...on the other side of the world people were asleep/work/school. I called it" Smart playing, or, playing during their off time... Just like in FFXI.

Oh and I did go back to where I came from..see..in FFXI Titan was my home world, SE then merged it in to another one. So technically I did go back home, to Titan.

Edit: Before something about language in game. I heal people. I don't really need to talk to you to make sure you don't die, I also do my own research for fights (so no lingo barrier there)...and yea..auto-trans...something about most Japanese people know English anyways, but playoff they don't, w/e.

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 7:03pm by Sandinmygum
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#19Uchida, Posted: Oct 01 2013 at 9:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) JP wannabe. Play with your own kind. When you NA people knew your servers were down, you all came to invade the JP servers. Many JPs couldn't play with their own friends because of your type and kind which invades. Good riddance to the majority of your type going back to the NA servers when the transfer service comes along.
#20 Oct 01 2013 at 10:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Uchida wrote:
JP wannabe. Play with your own kind. When you NA people knew your servers were down, you all came to invade the JP servers. Many JPs couldn't play with their own friends because of your type and kind which invades. Good riddance to the majority of your type going back to the NA servers when the transfer service comes along.

Hey, there's the old FF community I remember.

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Uchida wrote:
JP wannabe. Play with your own kind. When you NA people knew your servers were down, you all came to invade the JP servers. Many JPs couldn't play with their own friends because of your type and kind which invades. Good riddance to the majority of your type going back to the NA servers when the transfer service comes along.


If your friends are playing at what is the equivalent of 9AM their time during the week, maybe you should find non hikikomori friends. Cuz 9AM JP time is the only time NA folks are going to be on JP servers.

NA players aren't going to be on during JP primetime of 9PM to 12AM because over here it's 10AM to 1PM, and most of us are at work or school. We'd expect the same of any Japanese players on NA/EU servers.

Edited, Oct 2nd 2013 12:12am by Catwho
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#22 Oct 01 2013 at 10:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Quickly dropping here to address an important point.

Uchida-boy, are you really Japanese?日本語がどうでしょうか?

I don't buy your story, and I don't appreciate a troll spreading unnecessary hate and abusing the good people of these forums that usually no matter the context try to offer a reasonable and calm answer.

Whatever your agenda is, please get out of here. Your attitude is most unwelcome.

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#23 Oct 02 2013 at 3:45 AM Rating: Good
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Uchida wrote:
JP wannabe. Play with your own kind. When you NA people knew your servers were down, you all came to invade the JP servers. Many JPs couldn't play with their own friends because of your type and kind which invades. Good riddance to the majority of your type going back to the NA servers when the transfer service comes along.

Why don't you direct your anger towards SE for not being prepared for this launch instead of people playing a game they paid for?

Had SE given themselves a month of lead-time to official release, they could have implemented enough servers to satisfy the population bases of both the NA/EU and the JP. Instead, the rolled right from open beta to global launch, and that is why this happened.

In fact, I've seen quite a number of JP players on my NA/EU server. Apparently, they wanted to play during our off-time as well. Seems we are in the same boat together in this game, so why don't we start acting like it?
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Seems we are in the same boat together in this game, so why don't we start acting like it?


Because this time SE didn't force all of us into the same boat... now, **** off to your own boat Smiley: lol
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#25 Oct 02 2013 at 6:25 AM Rating: Good
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Uchida wrote:
JP wannabe. Play with your own kind. When you NA people knew your servers were down, you all came to invade the JP servers. Many JPs couldn't play with their own friends because of your type and kind which invades. Good riddance to the majority of your type going back to the NA servers when the transfer service comes along.


Wow, and welcome to Sub-D. With posts like this, I see a mute in your future buddy!

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Actually, your sub-D posts don't get read by most people. See, when a post hits this level of terribleness, the post actually gets hidden. Someone as brave as me has to click "Expand Post" to read the drivel that you came up with, while most would keep scrolling.

This quote is really just a terrible attitude, as ZAM is one of the better places for a rating system. Even if you disagree with people, if you do so in an intelligent and constructive manner that contributes to the conversation, you shouldn't ever see a sub-d or even default rating.

But when you just ooze hate, you'll find your presence isn't tolerated.

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#26 Oct 02 2013 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
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kenage wrote:
Quickly dropping here to address an important point.

Uchida-boy, are you really Japanese?日本語がどうでしょうか?

I don't buy your story, and I don't appreciate a troll spreading unnecessary hate and abusing the good people of these forums that usually no matter the context try to offer a reasonable and calm answer.

Whatever your agenda is, please get out of here. Your attitude is most unwelcome.

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Don't worry Ken, we know ****-offs like that are only representatives of other ****-offs, not the communities of NA, EU or JP at large.

And in saying that, it makes me miss Miia. She was so super sweet. I think she outright quit FFXI as I stopped seeing her on. To me, she is more representative of the JP populace than Uchida ever would be. When I first started, the JP players were friendly and cheerful to be playing with anyone. It's the ****-offs on both sides that started this idea of JPONRY, and I wish it would just die.
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