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#1 Oct 02 2013 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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I've noticed this a lot lately and it kinda bothers me. I'm not worried about being top DPS. I'm geared ok (slowly working on DL) and generally hand out around 2-3 on the hate charts even while singing. I know the parsers show less dmg done, but overall the PT does more.

I'm still conflicted with the songs costing MP AND a 20% reduction in damage, but it is what it is.

I typically pop a MP or TP song (I haven't seen the need for enemy debuff one really) along with the boost song skill somewhere towards the middle of an extended fight just to make sure everyone is 100% enabled.

Example: On Ifrit I'll pop TP song if we're melee DPS heavy or MP if mage heavy about 30 seconds before nails. I turn it off the second nails pop. I lose a little total dmg on Ifrit, but the PT gains a better shot at downing the nails.

I'll pop MP if the healers are getting overwhelmed in a fight or TP if we have WAR tanks and multiple adds in other situations. I don't feel as BRD like as I did in 1.0 or XI, but it still give the PT a quick (if temporary) boost.

So why aren't people singing more than the flee song?
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#2 Oct 03 2013 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Thought I dropped this in the BRD subforum
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#3 Oct 07 2013 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
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Generally I have never depleted TP as a DRG on anything less than Coil, even then it is very rarely. MNK tend to use less TP than DRG and tank should be using other mitigation/non TP skill not just spamming combo all the time.

SCH also tend to manage MP much better than WHM, and the only time when I can see the push for MP song for healers are in Coil or Titan HM, where your tank is either die in one crit or left with not enough Hp left and need top up ASAP all the time.

I would say that prior to Titan HM and Coil there is nothing that really need Song. Unless you have more than 1 BLM, you can probably throw in the debuff song for more DPS.
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#4 Oct 08 2013 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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Wanderers Palace needs TP, Garuda if mostly BRD PT can utilize TP for the feathers (not needed, but speeds things up), and other mass farming situations.

I haven't done coil or Titan yet, so I can't comment.

Do you think more BRDs would sing if there weren't a dmg reduction cost and only a MP cost instead? I certainly do.
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#5 Oct 19 2013 at 2:03 AM Rating: Good
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The problem is that our songs are too niche.

One is only useful for helping ourselves spam AoE's.
One is only useful when the healers are out of MP, which happens in specific, long drawn out fights.
And the last is only useful for heavy magic caster DPS, not that this is inherently a bad thing.

I'd welcome an HP regen song, or a Determination increase song. Heck, even a buff/debuff duration increasing song.

Oh, and don't forget a more support oriented Limit Break Smiley: tongue

Edited, Oct 19th 2013 2:05am by Kirby
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