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#1 Oct 08 2013 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Built this computer on cyberpowerpc.com (Trying to keep it at or around 1000...) and would like to know what people think of it as far as for FF14. Any advice is appreciated!

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1FG72D
#2 Oct 08 2013 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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About the only thing I'd considered is beefing up that power supply a titch more. 600 watts is adequate, but for a gaming machine you want to try to future proof it too, and for $40 more you can get an 800 watt one which will support a second video card later on.

Edited, Oct 8th 2013 9:10am by Catwho
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#3 Oct 08 2013 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Catwho wrote:
About the only thing I'd considered is beefing up that power supply a titch more. 600 watts is adequate, but for a gaming machine you want to try to future proof it too, and for $40 more you can get an 800 watt one which will support a second video card later on.

Edited, Oct 8th 2013 9:10am by Catwho



What about the motherboard? Thats the only thing I was overly concerned about, do you think that will cut it?
#4 Oct 08 2013 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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It should be okay. Gigabyte is a decent brand, and it has two PCIEx16 slots which means it'll be ready for a 2nd video card a year from now when you want to upgrade. (Looks like it's only Crossfire compatible, not SLI, but since you're getting an AMD card that's a moot point.)

Aside from the PSU, what you selected looks like a solid mid range system with a solid current gen video card, so to get that for around a thousand dollars is a good deal.

If you're not scared of computer guts, you could probably buy the components and assemble it on your own to shave a few hundred off. I'm a weirdo and work on computers the way some people work on old cars, though, and I realize not everyone is comfortable with doing that.
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#5 Oct 08 2013 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Catwho wrote:
It should be okay. Gigabyte is a decent brand, and it has two PCIEx16 slots which means it'll be ready for a 2nd video card a year from now when you want to upgrade. (Looks like it's only Crossfire compatible, not SLI, but since you're getting an AMD card that's a moot point.)

Aside from the PSU, what you selected looks like a solid mid range system with a solid current gen video card, so to get that for around a thousand dollars is a good deal.

If you're not scared of computer guts, you could probably buy the components and assemble it on your own to shave a few hundred off. I'm a weirdo and work on computers the way some people work on old cars, though, and I realize not everyone is comfortable with doing that.



What kind of settings do you think it'll be able to run in game? (with 60 fps)
#6 Oct 08 2013 at 7:28 AM Rating: Good
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Very likely high, if not extremely high on 1080p. The limiting factor is probably going to be the processor (alas, Intel's current gen beats AMD's current gen in speed, although that setup should be able to handle a little overclocking without melting down) since you've got a solid video card picked out.

The benchmark scores don't always translate over to real life performance, though. Still, I run above 50 fps at 1080p 90% of the time on my system, and I don't have as beefy a video card as you've picked out.
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#7 Oct 08 2013 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok thank you! ^^ :)
#8 Oct 08 2013 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
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That machine will run FFXIV maxed out quite well. You'll have no problems.

I'd have gone Intel + Nvidia for processor/video card. Intel is wiping the floor with AMD at the moment. What you've selected will work fine though so don't stress about it.

Only thing I would really suggest is trying to get an SSD in there for the OS. You won't believe the difference. It won't necessarily make your games run any better but overall "pep" of the system will be night/day verses an HD only system. My system boots cold to up and running with all background processes loaded in 22 seconds, including typing in my password, post SSD install. Single best PC upgrade I have ever done in 20 years of building PCs.
#9 Oct 08 2013 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a gaming laptop and am thinking of upgrading to one of the new ultra slim gaming laptops.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Zeusbook_Ultimate_200_Gaming_Notebook


My current one plays FF14 fine, but im thinking its a bit to heavy/thick. But looking at it mine, it is probably about 8 lbs, and going down to 6 lbs and half the thickness seems nice, but do you think Ill actually notice a 2 lbs drop in weight?

Gaming PCs are just not an option sadly. If i can sit on the couch with the family im fine, but if i try to go to the man cave for games i get vetoed 99% of the time!

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but do you think Ill actually notice a 2 lbs drop in weight?


Not unless you're playing FFXIV while actually walking around with the machine.

You can get a decent laptop for gaming, but it's probably going to be on the heavy side for laptops.
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I have a decent one and can play fine, my issue is more that it feels like its gonna snap in half when i go to pick it up off the night stand if i dont use both hands.

I guess i need to check the actual size/weight when i get home, and see if i can find a 6 lbs analog somewhere.
#12 Oct 08 2013 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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it feels like its gonna snap in half when i go to pick it up off the night stand if i dont use both hands.



Then use two hands :).

A thinner laptop won't fix this. If you have to use a laptop for gaming you want a big bulky beast of a laptop that has as much airflow as possible (which won't be much in any laptop but thinner you get the worse it'll be.)
#13 Oct 08 2013 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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That machine will run FFXIV maxed out quite well. You'll have no problems.

I'd have gone Intel + Nvidia for processor/video card. Intel is wiping the floor with AMD at the moment. What you've selected will work fine though so don't stress about it.

Only thing I would really suggest is trying to get an SSD in there for the OS. You won't believe the difference. It won't necessarily make your games run any better but overall "pep" of the system will be night/day verses an HD only system. My system boots cold to up and running with all background processes loaded in 22 seconds, including typing in my password, post SSD install. Single best PC upgrade I have ever done in 20 years of building PCs.



What SSD would you recommend.. also, what Nvidia video card is comparable to the one I currently have selected? I know intel is better for processors but it wasn't an option for the ones there I could pick.
#14 Oct 08 2013 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
That machine will run FFXIV maxed out quite well. You'll have no problems.

I'd have gone Intel + Nvidia for processor/video card. Intel is wiping the floor with AMD at the moment. What you've selected will work fine though so don't stress about it.

Only thing I would really suggest is trying to get an SSD in there for the OS. You won't believe the difference. It won't necessarily make your games run any better but overall "pep" of the system will be night/day verses an HD only system. My system boots cold to up and running with all background processes loaded in 22 seconds, including typing in my password, post SSD install. Single best PC upgrade I have ever done in 20 years of building PCs.



What SSD would you recommend.. also, what Nvidia video card is comparable to the one I currently have selected? I know intel is better for processors but it wasn't an option for the ones there I could pick.


It's not an option because the base machine selected is AMD so all the options are AMD related. The motherboards are not compatible with Intel chips. Also, the motherboard you have selected is not SLI compatible, so if you did go the nVidia card route, you'd be stuck with only ever using one card. You'd have to go to the next higher motherboard to get two nVidia cards to work together.

The closest nVidia card to the 7970 in terms of price and performance would be the GTX 660 2GB, which would add $36. But you'd have to add the next higher up motherboard for $117 for that to really be a sensible investment, and the 7970 is a really solid current gen card despite not being from nVidia. (See Passmark results for yourself.)

Get the SSD instead. Out of the SSDs listed, I'd think the 128 GB SanDisk should work. SanDisk specializes in Flash memory so I'd trust them. (All my little SDHC cards are from them.) That's $38 more (if you get it instead of a platter drive - you can probably ask them to stick in a smaller platter drive alongside the SSD, say the 500 GB, as well.)
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#15 Oct 08 2013 at 6:07 PM Rating: Good
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SLI isn't supported only by stamp of approval, but there are ways to get it to work properly. It's not something I'd suggest to someone who doesn't know how to build though.

I still think a PS3 or even waiting for the PS4 is a better option than getting a PC, but it depends on your other needs.

I haven't heard too many good things about the brand of PC you're planning on, but whatever you do; make sure you purchase the extended warranty and make sure it covers everything. Protect your investment whatever you decide to do.
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#16 Oct 08 2013 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I only mentioned Nvidia because Intel pairs well with it. The video card you selected is just fine, particularly with an AMD processor.

128 GB SSD is more than enough, you definitely want an HDD as a second drive though, size depends on what your usage is like but the difference between a 500GB and a 1TB is $13 so...yeah. Install programs to the second drive with the exception of a few things you want to load fast, once things are running load times are irrelevant for most programs. I put Libreoffice on my SSD because I open it all of the time and use it as a fancy calculator so it's nice to have it just pop right up like it was just minimized :).

The 128GB Corsair Force GS Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 560MB/s Read & 535MB/s Write is good. But any SSD will be light years faster than any HDD so budget can dictate if it needs to. It will spoil you. I get slightly annoyed when I have to wait for my HDD to spool up now, you forget how noisy they are :).
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Just chiming in that the SSD, while probably not a HUGE boost in performance for the game, will be amazing to you with everyday use. I have an Intel 520 Cherryville and a Samsung 840 and I absolutely LOVE them. Now my wife's desktop and her old Asus laptop have SSDs. Basically put a new lease on life for that Asus laptop, it is a speed machine. I made a video of it booting up Windows 8 from cold boot to desktop.

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#18 Oct 09 2013 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Just chiming in that the SSD, while probably not a HUGE boost in performance for the game, will be amazing to you with everyday use. I have an Intel 520 Cherryville and a Samsung 840 and I absolutely LOVE them. Now my wife's desktop and her old Asus laptop have SSDs. Basically put a new lease on life for that Asus laptop, it is a speed machine. I made a video of it booting up Windows 8 from cold boot to desktop.

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Holy smokes, you weren't kidding about the load times! So do I need to get a HDD drive on the side as well or is it something not necessary? I am really trying to keep it around 1000 but I will add it if you guys feel I should.
#19 Oct 09 2013 at 7:11 AM Rating: Good
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Most of us get a smaller SSD to put the OS and games on, and a larger slower platter drive for media storage (music, movies, pictures.) 128 SSD / 1 TB HDD is the most common combo.
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#20 Oct 09 2013 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1FG9GW

This is what I have changed it to, if you guys see any other minor changes (adds/removes to save a little money).. please let me know! Would like to order tonight :)

Edited, Oct 9th 2013 9:23am by Kuja20
#21 Oct 09 2013 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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That looks good! And yes, plunk down the cash for the extended warranty if you can swing it.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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