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#1 Oct 08 2013 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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So all the people I've reported weeks ago are still going strong and today I come across one I can't even target to check out (probably a lalafell). It's appears this person was inside the rock instead of walking into it when the node was up. I don't understand how many times I have to report these cheaters until something is done. Anyone else experience this?
#2 Oct 09 2013 at 12:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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All the time, sadly I have no idea if I am reporting them wrongly or if they are just not banning them fast enough.
#3 Oct 09 2013 at 1:58 AM Rating: Good
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The guys i reported in the first week (and several times after that) are still mining their asses off on Behemoth, just outside Ul'dah. It's been a good month and i've yet to see SE care about any of these.

Same for shouters, supposedly when they get deleted their name disappears off your blacklist and is replaced by a (Deleted). So far only 3 people have disappeared off my list, with a good 90 on it already.

I can understand SE has other things to worry about, i really do, but while they turn a blind eye, these people are slowly ruining the game for a lot of us.
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#4 Oct 09 2013 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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I am also on Behemoth so we are probably reporting the same people. I took a closer look at the character I could not see yesterday. It took a while because the character was using invis, but after a while of looking it turned out to be a miqo'te below the ground and only the name would appear.
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It bothers me that they have suspended/banned accounts of people because they have tainted gil, yet they haven't done anything about people that are actively breaking the economy with hacks and exploits.
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#6 Oct 09 2013 at 9:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't checked to see if the botters I recorded hacking got banned or not. The report function didn't want to work in PS3, and I gave up trying to sign into the forums to post. I have no idea where SE's priorities are for the botters.
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#7 Oct 09 2013 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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We reported a few also, recently someone was teleporting around to the Banemite spawn locations in North Shroud and killing them. We tried to open a trade window to see if that would stop the botter, but alas someone in China was actually running the keyboard for that toon and he closed the trade window before the Banemites could kill him.. hopefully we got his attention though!

I think I am more upset about the farming bot then the mining one... even though both are killing the economy, the mining nodes are not something you need to compete for, so at least you get your own no matter what the bots do.
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#8 Oct 09 2013 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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To be fair though, if people didn't complain about "monster grinding being outdated" we'd have more than enough camps to farm our materials. In 1.0 even though we had farm bots at times we still had alternate camps to farm because bots only go to the "main" spot because most are too lazy to program roaming bots outside of gathering.
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Any time there is a resource that is required to progress in the game (diremite webs and fleece for weavers, for example) that is only available in one particular area and can be monopolized via a claim system, it's ripe for botting and hacking. Its very profitable for the hacker actually. This is one of those terrible game design choices that was present in FFXI. I would've figured they had learned their lesson but nope. That kind of setup practically begs to be botted. The hackers know you wont be able to legit compete and that makes it so they can monopolize the resource and charge whatever they want for it.

These guys should be at the top of the ban list but it looks like SE is back to its usual MMO routine. They cant just plop a Goblin at the spawn point for this stuff like they did with FFXI's fishing spots, so it looks like it'll go on for a very long time. To me they need to change why its profitable to do this rather than just ban the offenders, but that's more wishful thinking and assumes they will actually take action.
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Any time there is a resource that is required to progress in the game (diremite webs and fleece for weavers, for example) that is only available in one particular area and can be monopolized via a claim system, it's ripe for botting and hacking. Its very profitable for the hacker actually. This is one of those terrible game design choices that was present in FFXI. I would've figured they had learned their lesson but nope. That kind of setup practically begs to be botted. The hackers know you wont be able to legit compete and that makes it so they can monopolize the resource and charge whatever they want for it.

These guys should be at the top of the ban list but it looks like SE is back to its usual MMO routine. They cant just plop a Goblin at the spawn point for this stuff like they did with FFXI's fishing spots, so it looks like it'll go on for a very long time. To me they need to change why its profitable to do this rather than just ban the offenders, but that's more wishful thinking and assumes they will actually take action.

Yup. More diremite spawns in different zones. ****, beef up their population in North Shroud. Let webs be harvested in a 20-25 botany node. Actually let the lowbie ones drop webs. While I'm pretty much past Diremite **** on my weaver, I'll still need webs for the occasional cross-class synth. I don't really like the thought of rewarding these guys or the fact I seriously can't go out the NS and farm up a few of my own in a respectable time frame. Basically, we're looking at mid-level mats getting the HNM treatment because didn't think. Or maybe they did and the conclusion is they're cruel bastards who believe a dozen spawns can fuel a server population of 7000+.



As for the botters, I've posted ways to minimize or even flag their behavior, but if my time in XI has been any indication, SE doesn't read NA feedback. People I've reported are still around, too, so they've also got a case of lazy *** GMs.

Edited, Oct 9th 2013 6:04pm by Seriha
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#11 Oct 09 2013 at 4:17 PM Rating: Good
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Well, there are ways around this - like spamming the leves that need cotton rather than velveteen,
but I must admit it frustrated the **** out of me!
Diremite webs and Gigantoad skins are HUGE bottlenecks in the game and totally open to abuse!
Will SE ever learn from it's mistakes?
The miners hacking thing? whilst annoying doesn't stop my progress on miner, Farming for other classes does!
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#12 Oct 09 2013 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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Wow Diremite webs in the north shroud with the best drops.... I go up there and try to farm when I get sick of 1k to 2k for base thread, after I spend more time trying to catch one new spawn I go back to town and just pay the prices with 1.0 money. The game honor system lets you buy HQ items to complete quests so RMT ppl always have that and the ingredients to make them to control.
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Well, there are ways around this - like spamming the leves that need cotton rather than velveteen,
but I must admit it frustrated the **** out of me!
Diremite webs and Gigantoad skins are HUGE bottlenecks in the game and totally open to abuse!
Will SE ever learn from it's mistakes?
The miners hacking thing? whilst annoying doesn't stop my progress on miner, Farming for other classes does!

That's what I ended up doing. I've been using leves to gather up my diremite webs. I haven't even started trying for gigantoad but if it's as bad, I'll be doing the same thing on my leatherworker.
#14 Oct 10 2013 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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I saw this myself many times while leveling miner to 50 and none of my reports ever amounted to anything thus far either. Oh well. We can but point to the fire, if they choose to let it burn, such is their right.
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#15 Oct 10 2013 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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So all the people I've reported weeks ago are still going strong and today I come across one I can't even target to check out (probably a lalafell). It's appears this person was inside the rock instead of walking into it when the node was up. I don't understand how many times I have to report these cheaters until something is done. Anyone else experience this?


Yes I have seen pretty many lately....
SE was so worried about fishing and now all of this.....

Edited, Oct 10th 2013 12:35pm by Nashred
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