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#1 Oct 15 2013 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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So now I'm getting about 3K in gil every AK run. Which is a lot higher than the 5 i was getting before. Now one run basically pays for your repairs and teles for the day easily and there are people still complaining that's not enough lmao. Some people will never be happy in this game
#2Furiousnixon, Posted: Oct 15 2013 at 9:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thanks for the number, good to know. Not a complaint but that's not enough to waste time killing trash any more than 0 gil was, will still be skipping literally everything possible. If 3k is enough to make you care there's something lacking elsewhere. On top of this Garuda speed farming now surpasses AK in efficiency for ToM at least making it second rate in that regard. None of this is necessarily bad. SE has made AK worthless which translates to fewer people going, plus additional servers sent in its direction means short queues on Mondays (and none the rest of the week).
#3 Oct 15 2013 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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Furiousnixon wrote:
Garuda takes 5 min for a run.


Id just like to add that you can get your Garuda kills down to closer to 3 min if you do what we do and roll a 1 Pld 1 Whm 6 Dps setup. Just ignore all feathers and focus on the boss. You should only see 2 feather sets spawn.
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#4 Oct 15 2013 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Warby wrote:
Furiousnixon wrote:
Garuda takes 5 min for a run.


Id just like to add that you can get your Garuda kills down to closer to 3 min if you do what we do and roll a 1 Pld 1 Whm 6 Dps setup. Just ignore all feathers and focus on the boss. You should only see 2 feather sets spawn.


And then what, have your MT tank 2 sisters? It seems like cures would be a huge issue, no?
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#5 Oct 15 2013 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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Nope you zerg the closest sister and its down before the other is an issue. AoE LB the second set and that's game
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#6 Oct 15 2013 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Furiousnixon wrote:
Thanks for the number, good to know. Not a complaint but that's not enough to waste time killing trash any more than 0 gil was, will still be skipping literally everything possible. If 3k is enough to make you care there's something lacking elsewhere. On top of this Garuda speed farming now surpasses AK in efficiency for ToM at least making it second rate in that regard. None of this is necessarily bad. SE has made AK worthless which translates to fewer people going, plus additional servers sent in its direction means short queues on Mondays (and none the rest of the week).

The situation seems to be a wash. Nothing substantive changes. All good.

Just in support Garuda is 15/10 now and AK is 100/40. Assuming you go through it for all the gil AK takes about 35 min? I was going to say 40 to make it a round number but that's not realistic anymore for full clear. Garuda takes 5 min for a run.

7 Garuda runs in 35 min should net about 105/70 and 7 chances at Garuda weapons for your alts maybe. vs. 1 AK for 100/40 and some AK gear you probably already have.

I have some trouble arguing that Garuda is 100% better than AK for ToP, it might be square between the two factoring in lost minutes here and there, but it is most assuredly better for ToM and add to that no queue or gear wear of any significance and it comes out ahead comfortably.

Edited, Oct 15th 2013 11:44am by Furiousnixon

Edited, Oct 15th 2013 11:54am by Furiousnixon


lol I wasn't trying to say that AK was the best thing to do in terms of getting Phils and Myths. Just saying that at least you get enough gil now for repairs and what not for the day. Especially if you're doing it multiple times a day. That's a whole different topic for discussion
#7 Oct 15 2013 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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Louiscool wrote:
Warby wrote:
Furiousnixon wrote:
Garuda takes 5 min for a run.


Id just like to add that you can get your Garuda kills down to closer to 3 min if you do what we do and roll a 1 Pld 1 Whm 6 Dps setup. Just ignore all feathers and focus on the boss. You should only see 2 feather sets spawn.


And then what, have your MT tank 2 sisters? It seems like cures would be a huge issue, no?


Dont forget, you have 6 dps, preferably well geared ones too. The sisters die within 5 seconds. As for the second set, i wouldnt know as we usually kill her before they pop.
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#8 Oct 15 2013 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking of some way to make it worthwhile if you still do speed runs but 20 min runs still only leaves you with 6k an hour. meh. Nevermind. Not really salvageable. You're right though, at least "repairs and what not for the day". Can't argue there with the lowered cost of repairs it'll definitely cover that.

The crazy thing I wonder is who at SE thought 3k was good enough to make anyone care and stop speed running it? That is almost as ludicrous as the 1 gil drops and just as out of touch with reality. If you're regularly speed running AK and are "end game" to even a moderate degree, 3k isn't going to rouse anything more than a dirty look at someone handing you pocket change for your time.

Edited, Oct 15th 2013 2:27pm by Furiousnixon
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#9 Oct 15 2013 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Warby wrote:
Furiousnixon wrote:
Garuda takes 5 min for a run.


Id just like to add that you can get your Garuda kills down to closer to 3 min if you do what we do and roll a 1 Pld 1 Whm 6 Dps setup. Just ignore all feathers and focus on the boss. You should only see 2 feather sets spawn.


I picked 5 minutes for the sake of argument to pad it a bit to make the comparison closer to reality / margin for error. It wasn't meant to be a mathematically optimal clear and I don't disagree with your party set up, it absolutely should be 1 tank and 1 healer and 6 DPS.

If we're looking at 3 minute clears the advantage is even more pronounced.
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#10 Oct 15 2013 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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so, is there any reliable info on how much philo/mythology stones each dungeon and the primals drop now?

i'm hoping i don't have to run castrum only 24/7 now. or at the very least, i can do a rotation of all the dungeons so it doesn't feel so monotonous.
#11 Oct 15 2013 at 6:26 PM Rating: Good
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Keysofgaruda wrote:
so, is there any reliable info on how much philo/mythology stones each dungeon and the primals drop now?

i'm hoping i don't have to run castrum only 24/7 now. or at the very least, i can do a rotation of all the dungeons so it doesn't feel so monotonous.


AK - 100 phil, 40 myth
WP - 100 phil, 30 myth
cm and prae - same thing
Ifrit HM - 10 phil, 4 myth
garuda and titan, not sure havent ran them since patch but shouldnt be much higher than ifrit.
#12 Oct 15 2013 at 6:40 PM Rating: Good
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Confirmed by others:
Garuda 15/10 (used to be 15/7)
Titan 20/15 (used to be 20/10)
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