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#1 Oct 29 2013 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, though this post will probably be short-lived, this is a rant and sort of a pet peeve.

My names is Deimos, or Dei for short. I can't express in text how annoying and degrading it is to be classified as by only your class or job. I even have enough respect to call you by your characters names. This isn't just me too, I see it all the time, "WTF Class/Job,""How's it going Class/Job""Hurry up Class/Job." Whether Friendly, Jokingly, or Offensively, it is quite annoying.

Also!! Morbol Fruit cures Bad Breath if you get hit with it. Smiley: schooled
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#2 Oct 29 2013 at 4:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Demonadrastos wrote:
Yes, though this post will probably be short-lived, this is a rant and sort of a pet peeve.

My names is Deimos, or Dei for short. I can't express in text how annoying and degrading it is to be classified as by only your class or job. I even have enough respect to call you by your characters names. This isn't just me too, I see it all the time, "WTF Class/Job,""How's it going Class/Job""Hurry up Class/Job." Whether Friendly, Jokingly, or Offensively, it is quite annoying.

Also!! Morbol Fruit cures Bad Breath if you get hit with it. Smiley: schooled



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#3 Oct 29 2013 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Not yet I'm not....
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#4 Oct 29 2013 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Demonadrastos wrote:
Yes, though this post will probably be short-lived, this is a rant and sort of a pet peeve.

My names is Deimos, or Dei for short. I can't express in text how annoying and degrading it is to be classified as by only your class or job. I even have enough respect to call you by your characters names. This isn't just me too, I see it all the time, "WTF Class/Job,""How's it going Class/Job""Hurry up Class/Job." Whether Friendly, Jokingly, or Offensively, it is quite annoying.

Also!! Morbol Fruit cures Bad Breath if you get hit with it. Smiley: schooled


I hear you on this. I want to physically smack someone who says 'XXXX do this/be this/LB this BLM". I have an easy name, and it's not hard to type the first four letters of it. It irritates me equally as much as if someone in real life calls me 'guy'. 'Hey guy'. *skincrawl*
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#5 Oct 29 2013 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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My pet peeve as a healer is when the DDs start asking why this or that person died.

STFU, Monk. Your only job is to stand there, flail your arms wildly, and get cleaved. Leave the talking to the grown ups.

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#6 Oct 29 2013 at 5:13 PM Rating: Excellent
In one of my nightmare parties the other day, a DPS got sealed out of a fight because he wasn't paying attention. I was tasked with rounding up the adds and holding them while DPS AOE'd them down, and the DPS couldn't kill fast enough (being down 25 percent damage) before the "big" add appeared, which I then had to tank away from the group. In doing so, I lost hate on the other adds, and we ended up wiping.

I got lots of ridicule for that, even though the DPS unit was at fault for not being able to quickly mow down those adds before Daddy Add appeared.

Didn't help that the whm was spamming Medica, and I had to spam flash just to keep the mobs on me, causing me to run out of MP.

But yeah... sometimes, DPS players need to stop pointing fingers outward, and realize they may be their own common threads in bad experiences.
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#7 Oct 29 2013 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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Depending on the persons name it's just easier to use 3 letters to target your discussion, especially when in a hurry. If we're just chatting or in between movement phases I'll use a persons name or shortened version of it.
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#8 Oct 29 2013 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Think that's bad? I mark my pulls for a reason when necessary and flash sparingly so as not to deplete all my MP for the next mob. The DPS and I are on the mob marked #1, the SCH or THM(dont remember) was blasting #3, The Healer is then forced to cure both ME and the Magic DPSer that pulled #3 out of flash AoE range and starts going after the Healer who is forced to heal both me and the other mage. Next thing I hear is "WTF Tank." Calling me by my job and putting all the blame on me.

Edit:;: Calling someone by their Job is lazy and rude.

Edited, Oct 29th 2013 7:42pm by Demonadrastos
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#9 Oct 29 2013 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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It is not lazy nor rude if the situation dictates that WAR/PLD or whatever are quicker and more efficient to type in the middle of battle. We aren't friends, this is DF... likely we won't run into each other very often, I'm not going to type your name in the heat of battle IF I even have to type at all.

Do you fully type peoples names, the one's with multiple ' in them? Just curious. And don't say you just call them by the first few letters of their name, because I bet some one will think that is equally rude.
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OMG I HAVE A NAME! WHY AM I JUST AN OBJECT TO YOU?!?!??

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#11 Oct 29 2013 at 6:04 PM Rating: Default
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However rude one may think it is(though far and wide), It still shows that you acknowledge that person as a person and not as a job. I am a person, I am not a job.

I am not requesting you to type out my full game name as it would be a pain in the ***. Simply typing Deimos or even simply Dei is more than acceptable. Groups work better together regardless of random setups when you acknowledge the people there as people, even if you will likely never meet again. It also improves the atmosphere.
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#12 Oct 29 2013 at 6:08 PM Rating: Excellent
No one is going to type out my character's name.. Healer & Heals is just fine..

Name:
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Edited, Oct 29th 2013 7:11pm by Sandinmygum
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#13 Oct 29 2013 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
No one is going to type out my character's name.. Healer & Heals is just fine..

Name:
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Edited, Oct 29th 2013 7:11pm by Sandinmygum


ermm.... Dih? Mono? Dimo> Dimono? Hydro? =)
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
No one is going to type out my character's name.. Healer & Heals is just fine..

Name:
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Edited, Oct 29th 2013 7:11pm by Sandinmygum


But it stings!
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#15 Oct 29 2013 at 6:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
No one is going to type out my character's name.. Healer & Heals is just fine..

Name:
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Edited, Oct 29th 2013 7:11pm by Sandinmygum


But it stings!


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OP: This is a major pet peeve of mine as well. Yes, I understand in the heat of battle type whatever is most efficient, but that's generally not the times that it bothers me. We should afford one another a certain level of respect, and calling one by one's name seems like fairly common practice that should be adopted, even by an online gaming community.

Also, as far as another poster's comment about “this is DF, we aren't friends, we won't run into each other again“. Firstly, I frequently run into people on DF that I have played with before. I think that is besides the point though. Just because I may not run into someone again in life, that shouldn't give me a license to not show them a certain level of respect. I've said it many times on these forums, but building positive group dynamics in a MMO community comes from very small gestures. People are often in too much of a rush to care.
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I have to say, I'm currently playing on PS3 without a keyboard, and me typing anyones name with a controller is not gonna happen, ever.
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Hence my character name is short, sweet and easy to type. I have never been called by my job because TOO MANY KEYSTROKES SLOWING MY TIME BRO!!
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OP: This is a major pet peeve of mine as well. Yes, I understand in the heat of battle type whatever is most efficient, but that's generally not the times that it bothers me. We should afford one another a certain level of respect, and calling one by one's name seems like fairly common practice that should be adopted, even by an online gaming community.

Also, as far as another poster's comment about “this is DF, we aren't friends, we won't run into each other again“. Firstly, I frequently run into people on DF that I have played with before. I think that is besides the point though. Just because I may not run into someone again in life, that shouldn't give me a license to not show them a certain level of respect. I've said it many times on these forums, but building positive group dynamics in a MMO community comes from very small gestures. People are often in too much of a rush to care.


Couldn't agree more. =)

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I have to say, I'm currently playing on PS3 without a keyboard, and me typing anyones name with a controller is not gonna happen, ever.


Understandable, though I would advise investing in a simple $15-$20 keyboard, because there will be times when communication is key.
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#20 Oct 29 2013 at 7:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm simply astonished that this is a real issue. I'm impressed to say the least.
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#22 Oct 29 2013 at 7:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you're not enjoying the group, then leave.....tanks/healers can do that. If you're DD, don't annoy the tank/healer or they'll probably leave. Simple concept really.
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#23 Oct 29 2013 at 7:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm simply astonished that this is a real issue. I'm impressed to say the least.


I got use to it during WoW, so it totally doesn't bother me anymore. Use to do the 1st 3 or 4 letters of a name if it was longer then 6, but yea..in WoW they would just throw around Tank and Heal to denote who was being talked to.
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Tank, are you on a role playing server? If not I don't see what the issue is at all...chances are you characters name isn't your real name so its not really rude to refer to you by you job choice as opposed to your nickname choice.

In fact Tank I find it rude when people force me to call them by their nicknames

Furthermore if we looked at it from a roleplaying perspective you could argue that since we are assigned duty we could be strangers tasked with completing an event...and very likely to not have time for pleasant greetings before we begin battle...in the heat of said battle my character would likely not remember your name and refer to you by the role you were playing in the fight...think war zone enemies everywhere soldier yells "doctor can you help me?" the Doctor wouldn't walk up and say yes but my name is Chuck FFS...

So Tank I think you're being a little over the top here...

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Demonadrastos wrote:
Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
No one is going to type out my character's name.. Healer & Heals is just fine..

Name:
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Edited, Oct 29th 2013 7:11pm by Sandinmygum


ermm.... Dih? Mono? Dimo> Dimono? Hydro? =)



OMG, WET, what are you doing?
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I'd like to agree, but unfortunately with speed and rarity of running into the same people in df...people don't want to take the time. Everything's about speed and repetition. People get extremely bored of always doing the same thing which leads to a sense of laziness. I normally que up as a tank and by the time we actually get to a point where we need something, something someone isn't doing or is doing, sometimes it can be faster to just say the job. I normally try and judge gear, job/party setup, names right as dungeons start up, but a lot of the times you can go several dungeons with just "gg" at the end. So if in the middle of a fight I'm tanking, it may just be I know we have a blm in the party and need them to LB, sometimes name sometime just need that person to do their job. If everyone's doing it right, most don't say anything at all. Now in server groups appear to get a lot more communication and attention to details. In 8 man + with random is even worse. Why is always loved 11. There was an accountability not only to performance but to etiquette/Personal behavior. People were held accountable more. Now it's as simple of dropping party and forgetting the annoyances. Shame really. Can't wait for that in server que or organization to hit. People watch their behavior much more when they know their rep is held accountable.
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