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#1 Nov 04 2013 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Block Strength vs Block Rate... what do you think is the best way to go? Personally, I've tried to stick to shields that offer a decent balance between the two, but when I've had to choose I find myself going with block rate (though I tend to carry two shields, one high strength and one with high rate). My assumption is that more weak blocks will mitigate damage more than a few strong blocks, but that's just a hunch... I don't have any data or anything, so I figured I'd ask around and see what other people's approaches or thoughts were. What do you guys think?
#2 Nov 04 2013 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Ultimately it won't matter because the three top shields have equal numbers in block strength and rate.

I would aim more towards rate while leveling/gearing up towards endgame simply due to smoothing out the damage curve (blocks more often) helps more than spiky, larger but less frequent blocks.

Edited, Nov 4th 2013 11:30pm by Viertel
#3 Nov 05 2013 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, like what was said, everyone has the same shield in the end so it doesnt matter. But before that, i'm pretty convinced there's only one way to go.

Blockrate is based on your DEX, and block strength is based on your STR. So any number you'll get is going to deviate between players due to diffirent stats. The performance of your shield is minimal at best. It doesnt really matter.

At best, the diffirence between the lowest and highest non-relic amount of blockstrength (at lv.50) is about a 11% reduction (with a 3 point Blockstrength Lv.1 shield) vs. a ~22% reduction. That's because your innate attributes weight in a whole lot more than the block-strength/rate on your shield.

Blockrate doesnt offer such convenient text lines with percentages in the damage log. But take it from me, it's crappy regardless of the amounts. I'm convinced the smaller, high block-rate, shields can get a good 20% blockrate on them. But this is eyeballing from the amount of Shield Swipes they offer. I've switched between the Holy Shield +1 (with 181 Blockrate) and that Lv.1 Square Maple Shield (with 14 Blockrate), and i dont really see much of a diffirence in blockrate. I dont carry any heavier types on me for testing (for obvious reasons), but a tower shield of any kind is not going to give you much extra blockrate over your base values from your DEX attribute.

tl;dr: Blockstrength is such a trivial thing, it's not worth gearing towards. Stick to whatever gives you the highest blockrate if you can regardless of how much blockstrength it has. No matter what you pick, it's not going to matter much, in the end it balances out to that all the shields are roughly same for you, except for Holy Shield and it's +1. Which are superior no matter what.

Basicly, do you want to block 10% (number pulled completely out of my ***) of the attacks for a 20% reduction, or do you want to block 20% of the attacks for a 10% reduction. But atleast with more blockrate you get more Shield Swipe procs.

Edited, Nov 5th 2013 3:10pm by KojiroSoma
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#4 Nov 05 2013 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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#5 Nov 05 2013 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
Ive had the same problem trying to figure this out.. I too carry a few shields around with me (leveling both WHM and PLD).. and notice that any shield that has stats better for a caster (vit/int) always seem to have higher block rate, and the tower type shields for gla always seem to have a higher block strength.. which would make sense to mitigate more damage.

I havent gotten anywhere near endgame though, so my findings are only based off the few pink/green drops I've managed to win in dungeons.
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#6 Nov 06 2013 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Dyadem, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
Ive had the same problem trying to figure this out.. I too carry a few shields around with me (leveling both WHM and PLD).. and notice that any shield that has stats better for a caster (vit/int) always seem to have higher block rate, and the tower type shields for gla always seem to have a higher block strength.. which would make sense to mitigate more damage.

I havent gotten anywhere near endgame though, so my findings are only based off the few pink/green drops I've managed to win in dungeons.


That would be consistent with how shields were handled in FFXI. Little shields (buckler types) hid a higher block rate but mitigated less, while the big shields had a lower block rate but better block success. (And then there was Ochain which broke all the rules.)
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#7 Nov 06 2013 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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anyway the real answer is kite shields are best (balance of rate and strength), although some argue tower shields are better once you have Bulwark. Clearly they are mistaken, since towers are ugly and Relic isn't one and neither is Allagan.
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