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#1 Nov 14 2013 at 5:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Honest question, one that has been on my mind for a bit now.

I myself have got two battle jobs at 50, along with three lv.50 crafting jobs, and a Miner at 50 to supply those with essentially "free" ore, but after struggling for months i've only just barely broke the 400k barrier in the last week... And even that i imagine is only because i now gather my own materials without exceptions.
Granted i am perhaps not very inclined to actively make stuff to sell on the markets, and dont actually work the numbers on the board for the absolute maximum profits each and every day, far from it, but i do try and sell some things occasionally. By all intends and purposes, i dont feel i'm doing terrible, nor very good.

I know my server is a non-legacy server (Behemoth), and that there's probably not an immense amount of gil in circulation, but still.

Not asking for blatent bragging or anything of the sorts. Certainly not implying or suggesting that gil means anything in this game. But what should an average player such as myself with a little bit of everything at 50 have as far as gil goes?

Following that, what would you feel that people with nothing but battle jobs have in their account?
And, what would people with nothing but crafting jobs have in their account in your eyes?

Just trying to draw a comparison if i should step up my game or am doing quite well for myself.
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#2 Nov 14 2013 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Since launch I have just cleared 300k gil. I have a lvl 50 fisher, 42 pld, 36 drg, 34 smn, and just started miner which is now 16. I've only spent about 10k of that on various pieces of gear. Outside from small purchases, such as dye off the npc, I have not spent any money. A handful of teleports here and there, but not much.

I would have considerably less if I did not sell fish. I sold almost everything caught from 1-50 and know about a handful which I probably fish to generate consistant gil, but not a whole lot, probably enough to cover repair costs for all my jobs, but not not much more.

I certainly don't have enough, or project having enough to spend gil frivolously on the market. My current plan is to finish off miner, then botanist to become a self sufficient crafter. I'm hoping by then I will have learned enough to make sustainable gil to keep me going.
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I make about 100k a night, but I have DoL all 50, and all crafters 50.

1) Harvest electrum + gem of choice
2) use Gold crafting to make full set of level 49 jewlery hq
3) sprit bind it in 3 ak runs and convert to materia

Profits range from 30k-150k a night, so 100k average. Helps if you can get away with using the +1 spirit bind head
#4 Nov 14 2013 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
I have around 250k. Was making gil, but then realized I should just level and not worry about it (only lv 44atm).
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#5 Nov 14 2013 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
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I have 230k, one 50 PLD and 50 fisher, I think I have made more money getting botanist to 20 than I did getting fisher to 50 :(. guess I'm pretty poor though.
#6 Nov 14 2013 at 7:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Don't feel bad, I've broken 100k only a handful of times... I usually spend it as soon as I break 100k for some reason... I have 4 jobs at 50 now, miner, leathworker, armorer and goldsmith... but I wind up spending my gil gearing up for those...

It's becoming easier as I level more crafting jobs because I can craft the HQ gear myself and don't need to spend gil on that... but still, building up the gear for that many level 50 jobs will not be easy on the wallet, you are doing fine...

Besides, without personal housing what are we going to really spend our gil on anyways? 100k is fine, 400k is even better lol. Smiley: grin
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#7 Nov 14 2013 at 7:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think I'm sitting at about 600k now, but I'm leveling Weaver so it may take a bit of a hit. I'm at a stage now where I can make almost anything I need so gil is getting relative, I'll probably start using it to buy coke and such for 2 star items soon.
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I have bot/min/fsh at 41, crp/alc at 50, all other crafts 41-46, whm 45.

I have just under 500k on me, and at last count around 150k in gold bags on my retainer. I NEVER cash them in lol. I rarely, if ever make something just to sell it, nor do I ever farm stuff just to sell it. I farm what I think I'll need to level up my crafting (i.e. Boar Skins) and then sell half of what's left, and keep the other half of the remainder for later. I have never sold a single item for more than 25k (which to my great surprise was a dungeon drop). I would hazard to guess the great majority of my funds come from leves. I don't really keep track.

I rarely, if ever, buy crafting mats or shards. I've been stockpiling cash so that I can buy materia for my gears. I had it all planned out then Meat had to link that post about Patrician's gear and now I don't know WHAT I'm going to do lol.
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I have 100K on hand, mostly earned from fishing. It could be a lot more if I really wanted to, but I have limited play time and I'm trying to get my conjurer up to proper levels now.

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#10 Nov 14 2013 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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This is an impossible question to answer.

It all depends on what you do with your money. Ive easily had 10mil, but ive purchased gear and used a lot for crafting. On me now i have 300k but that doesnt really bother me. i could make some gill crafting or selling philosophy items, but gil is practically useless at least in my eyes. Might be a good idea though to save some because you never know what is going to happen in the future.
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I'm currently at 340k, but I've been as high as 750k. I've probably made 3.5 million over the course of game and spent about 3.2 million. I am not gathering focused, I battle and craft, so I buy most of my stuff out of the auction house, including shards. But I usually turn that into a small profit while I'm leveling or after I hit 50, build up my gear and roatation, and start hq'ing level 49 - 2 star items. Leves have made me a surprisingly large amount of money through the rewards on the triple turn ins (12 boar skins per turn in? or 48 shards per turn in?), as well as simply running through all of the level 1-10 crafting story quests for each job. The shard rewards are amazing and can save you a lot of money. Also, when you hit that 10% shot on converting that level 50 crafted item, or that 100% shot on converting that lvl 70 crafted item and you get a materia IV (assuming it isnt ice or something unsellable) you can make upwards of 200 - 300k easily. Even some of the III materias go for 30 - 50k, at least on Ultros server.
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Goodness, I've been through millions of gil at this point when you factor in materia buying, craft item purchashing, and the like. I'm at 90k at the moment, but it fluctuates wildly because I use it as soon as I spend it a lot of the time.

Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.

We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.
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Goodness, I've been through millions of gil at this point when you factor in materia buying, craft item purchashing, and the like. I'm at 90k at the moment, but it fluctuates wildly because I use it as soon as I spend it a lot of the time.

Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.

We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?
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I've only broken 300k, but I have just started working on leveling Crafting/Gathering jobs, I've been able to work the market place with some success, made about 100k in a few days just buying and selling, but most of my gill just came from leveling.
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If you want to work the market, sell through the week, buy at the weekends.
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Sitting at roughly 80k as a level 37 conjurer with all my DoL's sitting around the 12-14 level area.
I feel that fairly pretty as of now. Not really buying too much and selling what I feel I don't need.

Applying real world economic theories in the server economy can help.
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LebargeX wrote:
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Goodness, I've been through millions of gil at this point when you factor in materia buying, craft item purchashing, and the like. I'm at 90k at the moment, but it fluctuates wildly because I use it as soon as I spend it a lot of the time.

Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.

We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


I was thinking about doing this myself while farming with my chocobo, just wear some +Spiritbonding gear (rings + hat) and then switch out some of my armor for crafting gear that I want to spirit bond...

Haven't tried it out yet, I'd definitely be interested to see what people actually do with this method.
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I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.


Thank you, kind sir, for not being one of the asshats that sit on top of posts in the Mines of the Ceruleum Processing Plant and blast things with your relic weapon so that no one who is actually trying to level up from 42-50 can get any hits to gain their levels. Your focus on beastmen and Garlean camps is to be commended. Smiley: nod
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LebargeX wrote:

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree
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#20 Nov 14 2013 at 10:14 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.
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I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.

This is pretty much the same thing I had planned to do. I'm glad to hear it works for you :)

Do you use aetherite rings or any +bonding gear?
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Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree

I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.
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LebargeX wrote:
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Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree

I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.


And vice versa, you can craft with battle gear on and level those as well, but the negative effect there is much more pronounced.
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Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree

I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.


And vice versa, you can craft with battle gear on and level those as well, but the negative effect there is much more pronounced.

Dude... you seriously just made my day :D
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LebargeX wrote:
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I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.

This is pretty much the same thing I had planned to do. I'm glad to hear it works for you :)

Do you use aetherite rings or any +bonding gear?


Aetheryte rings are hq 5k roughly and are level 50 crafted + give +1 spiritbonding. No reason not to use them. Go further and wear your gamblers crown for another +1. Milita Bracelets are nice as well for another 50 crafted (chance at a IV materia), but those are a bit more expensive.
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My mind is just spinning with the possibilities lol
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LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree

I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.


And vice versa, you can craft with battle gear on and level those as well, but the negative effect there is much more pronounced.

Dude... you seriously just made my day :D


Now I have noticed that killing weak stuff (30 or less?) with level 50 crafted gear will not raise the spiritbond on that gear at all. They have to be within range (no idea what that range is). For instance, I thought I would be all badass last night and take my boar skins from my leves and autocraft them to leather once I hit 50, then sell them for profit while I spiritbond my new leatherworker lvl 50 gear. The boar leather is a level 30 something craft. So I crafted two stacks of skins into leather, check my spirit bond, and while everything 49 and under gained spiritbond, the lvl 50 gear sat at 1%. Woot Smiley: glare. So I assume you would need to kill high level stuff to spiritbond high level craft gear. Just FYI

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:33am by Valkayree
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All I ever seem to get from Aetheryte rings are Ice Materia III. It makes me sad.

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 11:43am by SolomonGrundy
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Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree

I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.


And vice versa, you can craft with battle gear on and level those as well, but the negative effect there is much more pronounced.

Dude... you seriously just made my day :D


Now I have noticed that killing weak stuff (30 or less?) with level 50 crafted gear will not raise the spiritbond on that gear at all. They have to be within range (no idea what that range is). For instance, I thought I would be all badass last night and take my boar skins from my leves and autocraft them to leather once I hit 50, then sell them for profit while I spiritbond my new leatherworker lvl 50 gear. The boar leather is a level 30 something craft. So I crafted two stacks of skins into leather, check my spirit bond, and while everything 49 and under gained spiritbond, the lvl 50 gear sat at 1%. Woot Smiley: glare. So I assume you would need to kill high level stuff to spiritbond high level craft gear. Just FYI

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:33am by Valkayree

On that topic, if you spiritbond Lv.1 gear on a Level 50 monster, it jumps around 3 to 4% on each kill. So the reverse is true as well.
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Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:

Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree

I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.


And vice versa, you can craft with battle gear on and level those as well, but the negative effect there is much more pronounced.

Dude... you seriously just made my day :D


Now I have noticed that killing weak stuff (30 or less?) with level 50 crafted gear will not raise the spiritbond on that gear at all. They have to be within range (no idea what that range is). For instance, I thought I would be all badass last night and take my boar skins from my leves and autocraft them to leather once I hit 50, then sell them for profit while I spiritbond my new leatherworker lvl 50 gear. The boar leather is a level 30 something craft. So I crafted two stacks of skins into leather, check my spirit bond, and while everything 49 and under gained spiritbond, the lvl 50 gear sat at 1%. Woot Smiley: glare. So I assume you would need to kill high level stuff to spiritbond high level craft gear. Just FYI

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:33am by Valkayree

On that topic, if you spiritbond Lv.1 gear on a Level 50 monster, it jumps around 3 to 4% on each kill. So the reverse is true as well.

Yeah I had planned on doing a little "storming the castrums" lol. Or maybe Kobolds or sahags, something like that.
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Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?


Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3 Smiley: clap)

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree

I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.


You can! Basically anything can get spiritbond gain whether it's DoW/DoM/DoH/DoL-based gear. But that's not what we do.

Basically I make this stuff here in quintuplicate, since everyone in my group has a Disciple of War job at level 50:

  • Militia Barbut (ARM)
  • Militia Mitt Gauntlets (ARM)
  • Militia Harness (LTH)
  • Militia Subligar (LTH)
  • Militia Caligae (LTH)
  • Raptorskin Voyager's Belt (LTH)
  • Imperial Operative's Choker (GSM)
  • Imperial Operative's Wristlets (GSM)
  • Militia Earrings (GSM)
  • Aetheryte Ring x2 (GSM)

  • (As an aside you can swap some of the accessories for other accessories if you want to focus on a craft accessory for craft materia, so it's up to you.)

    I'm fortunate to have FC mates who gather the shards/crystals/materials for about 80% of this stuff, while I handle the other 20% plus crafting and materia melding. It's time-consuming but ultimately pays off well enough for us.

    @Valkayree (whoops, got the wrong name at first!): Sorry to hear about that crap going on in North Thanalan. I mean it's honestly not even worth the time to go and do something like that. Castrum Occidens, Samsa Spawning Grounds, U'Ghamaro Mines, and so on and so forth ... those are all not only superior places to spiritbond due to the mob level and mob density, but also away from people actually trying to do FATEs.

    Edited, Nov 14th 2013 12:25pm by Satisiun
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    #32 Nov 14 2013 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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    I guess I'm going to have to level my WHM to 50 too lol
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    #33 Nov 14 2013 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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    I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.

    This is pretty much the same thing I had planned to do. I'm glad to hear it works for you :)

    Do you use aetherite rings or any +bonding gear?


    Yes. It's a 2 to 1 synths to spirit bond ratio so it takes 2 stacks of cobalt ingots to completely bond a piece. Since I can complete a synth with one Careful Synthesis II it usually takes me about a bit over an hour to complete bond on a set. Switch to next set, convert, throw ingots on market and repeat Smiley: smile
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    I guess I'm going to have to level my WHM to 50 too lol
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    SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
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    I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.

    This is pretty much the same thing I had planned to do. I'm glad to hear it works for you :)

    Do you use aetherite rings or any +bonding gear?


    Yes. It's a 2 to 1 synths to spirit bond ratio so it takes 2 stacks of cobalt ingots to completely bond a piece. Since I can complete a synth with one Careful Synthesis II it usually takes me about a bit over an hour to complete bond on a set. Switch to next set, convert, throw ingots on market and repeat Smiley: smile


    Are you building quality on those or just progress?
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    Just progress for speed. Since I can complete in one step instead of how ever many it would take to HQ them it goes faster. Cheap mass production at it's finest Smiley: lol

    Edit: I did a group of 10 HQs to see if they helped increase bond. It didn't, but I was only checking my militia gear. Not sure if it would affect normal gear. Also, there is a downside to this method. You will blow through shards like never before, something to think about.

    Edited, Nov 14th 2013 9:56am by SkinwalkerAsura
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    If you want to work the market, sell through the week, buy at the weekends.


    Yeah that's pretty much what I do, I spent ALOT of time working the AH in WoW, one of my friends calls me "The little Auction *****" pretty much all my income in WoW came from buying and selling.
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    If you want to work the market, sell through the week, buy at the weekends.


    Yeah that's pretty much what I do, I spent ALOT of time working the AH in WoW, one of my friends calls me "The little Auction *****" pretty much all my income in WoW came from buying and selling.

    I've thought about doing this, but I'm afraid I would ruin myself lol
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    #39 Nov 14 2013 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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    If you want to work the market, sell through the week, buy at the weekends.


    Yeah that's pretty much what I do, I spent ALOT of time working the AH in WoW, one of my friends calls me "The little Auction *****" pretty much all my income in WoW came from buying and selling.

    I've thought about doing this, but I'm afraid I would ruin myself lol


    It's not that hard really, just a lot of leg work. I make a majority of my gil by selling 6 items, usually 2 at a time. Whenever I log in I check the boards to see how empty or saturated the market for each item is. I then synth and sell whatever is favorable. By the time those items have sold the market for other items is bare so I switch. It's helped my income stay consistent. The undercutting will make you want to kick a kitten though, so be prepared.
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    SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
    LebargeX wrote:
    Jeskradha wrote:
    SolomonGrundy wrote:
    If you want to work the market, sell through the week, buy at the weekends.


    Yeah that's pretty much what I do, I spent ALOT of time working the AH in WoW, one of my friends calls me "The little Auction *****" pretty much all my income in WoW came from buying and selling.

    I've thought about doing this, but I'm afraid I would ruin myself lol


    It's not that hard really, just a lot of leg work. I make a majority of my gil by selling 6 items, usually 2 at a time. Whenever I log in I check the boards to see how empty or saturated the market for each item is. I then synth and sell whatever is favorable. By the time those items have sold the market for other items is bare so I switch. It's helped my income stay consistent. The undercutting will make you want to kick a kitten though, so be prepared.

    I think maybe after my focus has shifted from levelling everything up, I may focus on this a bit more.
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    LebargeX wrote:
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    If you want to work the market, sell through the week, buy at the weekends.


    Yeah that's pretty much what I do, I spent ALOT of time working the AH in WoW, one of my friends calls me "The little Auction *****" pretty much all my income in WoW came from buying and selling.

    I've thought about doing this, but I'm afraid I would ruin myself lol



    Its risky, and I've been burned more then once, but sometimes the pay off can be worth it considering the minimal amount of effort it takes. Mostly it just takes a lot of patience waiting for stuff to sell, and dealing with trying to undercut everyone else. I know to some its not a lot of gill, but I have around 300k invested in the ah, and if it pays off, i'll be sitting roughly at around 800k.

    Basically, I look for people who don't check prices before posting stuff, and post things under the current market value, and just buy them and re-post, even if its something I might only make 5-10k off of, profit is profit.

    I typically don't try to control a market, just cause I have been burned pretty hard trying to do that in the past.

    Then I place all my hopes in the players that are too lazy or impatient to wait for prices to drop and just buy whatever they want no matter the cost (or players who are filthy rich and just don't care lol".

    I am by no means a "pro" at this, but it works enough for me to make some gill so whatever.
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    Just progress for speed. Since I can complete in one step instead of how ever many it would take to HQ them it goes faster. Cheap mass production at it's finest Smiley: lol

    Edit: I did a group of 10 HQs to see if they helped increase bond. It didn't, but I was only checking my militia gear. Not sure if it would affect normal gear. Also, there is a downside to this method. You will blow through shards like never before, something to think about.

    Edited, Nov 14th 2013 9:56am by SkinwalkerAsura


    From what I've read, quick synth bonds just as fast as a regular synth. That's probably a better method for you.
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    I have about 8 mil but have stopped playing b.c I was actually now losing money since everyone caught up. Waiting for the patch to see if it fixes anything.
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    I have about 8 mil but have stopped playing b.c I was actually now losing money since everyone caught up. Waiting for the patch to see if it fixes anything.

    You've stopped playing because you can't make money?
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    #45 Nov 14 2013 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Just progress for speed. Since I can complete in one step instead of how ever many it would take to HQ them it goes faster. Cheap mass production at it's finest Smiley: lol

    Edit: I did a group of 10 HQs to see if they helped increase bond. It didn't, but I was only checking my militia gear. Not sure if it would affect normal gear. Also, there is a downside to this method. You will blow through shards like never before, something to think about.

    Edited, Nov 14th 2013 9:56am by SkinwalkerAsura


    From what I've read, quick synth bonds just as fast as a regular synth. That's probably a better method for you.


    Nice! I'll try that out later, thanks!
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    Just progress for speed. Since I can complete in one step instead of how ever many it would take to HQ them it goes faster. Cheap mass production at it's finest Smiley: lol

    Edit: I did a group of 10 HQs to see if they helped increase bond. It didn't, but I was only checking my militia gear. Not sure if it would affect normal gear. Also, there is a downside to this method. You will blow through shards like never before, something to think about.

    Edited, Nov 14th 2013 9:56am by SkinwalkerAsura


    From what I've read, quick synth bonds just as fast as a regular synth. That's probably a better method for you.


    Nice! I'll try that out later, thanks!


    I would assume that quicksynth would not get your spiritbond up as fast as the manual synth (hence the one step manual synth when you are not concerned with xp), am I correct?
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    I would assume that quicksynth would not get your spiritbond up as fast as the manual synth (hence the one step manual synth when you are not concerned with xp), am I correct?


    Tested here:

    http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1381819785256125050&h=50&p=1#16

    According to those results, quick vs manual is no difference in spiritbond rate.
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    I would assume that quicksynth would not get your spiritbond up as fast as the manual synth (hence the one step manual synth when you are not concerned with xp), am I correct?


    Tested here:

    http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1381819785256125050&h=50&p=1#16

    According to those results, quick vs manual is no difference in spiritbond rate.


    That is a very good reference. Thank you very much, I dont know how I missed that. Smiley: chug
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    Yep. Materia plummets on Saturday, and rises again steadily Monday thru Thursday.
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    I've been doing the SB thing when I could motivate myself to sit down and do like a 100 synths in a session. In general, an ilvl55 set takes about twice as long to bond as level 49 accessories, so I double on those. Doing this as a caster is a pain, though, since fleece is required and still pricy/camped. Been considering leveling ARC/BRD solely to just do leather stuff instead. Or maybe GLD/WAR, as ore isn't bottlenecked so much.

    Had about 1.5m last night before I started working on some ilvl 70 jewelry. Total gil over time, though? Hard to say. I can be lazy about money making, though, since the shard aspect can be demoralizing for me.
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    I have about 8 mil but have stopped playing b.c I was actually now losing money since everyone caught up. Waiting for the patch to see if it fixes anything.

    You've stopped playing because you can't make money?

    Yea it just got boring. I am waiting for the Housing.
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