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#1 Nov 17 2013 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
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How many people picked up a PS4? When did SE say they were putting out FF14 ARR on the PS4?
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Next year I think? For some reason I have Jan/Feb in my mind, but for the life of me I can't remember how accurate that is.
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#3 Nov 17 2013 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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Next year I think? For some reason I have Jan/Feb in my mind, but for the life of me I can't remember how accurate that is.


Think I heard first quarter also.
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#4 Nov 17 2013 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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How many people picked up a PS4? When did SE say they were putting out FF14 ARR on the PS4?


Got my PS4, system kicks *** even if game selection is a bit limited ATM.

XIV Beta test for PS4 in Feb. apparently.
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beta for ffxiv starts on February 28th suspect month to month of half of that then release prolly end of may start of july
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The One and Only Onionthiefx wrote:
TheRebelKnight wrote:
How many people picked up a PS4? When did SE say they were putting out FF14 ARR on the PS4?


Got my PS4, system kicks *** even if game selection is a bit limited ATM.

XIV Beta test for PS4 in Feb. apparently.


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beta for ffxiv starts on February 28th suspect month to month of half of that then release prolly end of may start of july

Thanks that must be what I was thinking..Now I am hoping to get in on the PS4 beta. I got in on the PC beta..
#7 Nov 17 2013 at 5:17 PM Rating: Excellent
The One and Only Onionthiefx wrote:

Got my PS4, system kicks *** even if game selection is a bit limited ATM.


My entire reason I did not buy one, as of yet. The Super Hero Lego game looks fun, but Destiny and 1886: London doesn't even come out til like next year? There is nothing else in the near future that I know about that has me going "Oh ****! I really need a ps4!" Kind of a weak launch imo (even indie games, not much I have not already played or care to).
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I think the primary cause of the recent weak launches is that console dominance of gaming is truly on the wane. People are still buying the consoles, for sure, but with the Steam boxes on the horizon, and all of the various anxiety of where gaming is headed is leading developers to sit out the release section, and wait to see who and how many adopt what platform before they go balls deep in developing a host of exclusives. Sure, you'll get the multi-platform games, but none of them will "make you want" X system over Y system.
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#9 Nov 17 2013 at 6:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
The One and Only Onionthiefx wrote:

Got my PS4, system kicks *** even if game selection is a bit limited ATM.


My entire reason I did not buy one, as of yet. The Super Hero Lego game looks fun, but Destiny and 1886: London doesn't even come out til like next year? There is nothing else in the near future that I know about that has me going "Oh sh*t! I really need a ps4!" Kind of a weak launch imo (even indie games, not much I have not already played or care to).


I downloaded a couple games, one where you're a ninja suit of armor, and another RTS, for free from the playstation network on top of the 4 I had after taking advantage of the buy 2 get 1 free from Target, and those will keep me well occupied for months. There's quite a bit more available than what you can get at the store in a blue box. It isn't a ton though, so if you're dabbling, you're gonna be disappointed.
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Selection is always limited at launch. I've got PS4 and will be picking up my Xbone in a few days as well. What I want to know is... how am I supposed to feed my kid given that I've spent his yearly allowance for food on consoles? Smiley: sly
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Selection is always limited at launch. I've got PS4 and will be picking up my Xbone in a few days as well. What I want to know is... how am I supposed to feed my kid given that I've spent his yearly allowance for food on consoles? Smiley: sly


Put him in front of the console(s), get him addicted to videogames, he'll forget all about nourishment.
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The One and Only Onionthiefx wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:
Selection is always limited at launch. I've got PS4 and will be picking up my Xbone in a few days as well. What I want to know is... how am I supposed to feed my kid given that I've spent his yearly allowance for food on consoles? Smiley: sly


Put him in front of the console(s), get him addicted to videogames, he'll forget all about nourishment.


If I let him play games, who will assemble the toys coated with lead paint?
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I'll be waiting until closer to FFXIV release to pick one up. Glad to hear it's good though. The local news said 1mn units sold over the weekend :)
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I'll get mine in Feb as well and likely jump on beta. I'm still a bit scared because I hear that some are arriving DOA, or die after a few hours of play. The usual suspects with new consoles. Thats why I wait a bit before I buy.
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Selection is always limited at launch. I've got PS4 and will be picking up my Xbone in a few days as well. What I want to know is... how am I supposed to feed my kid given that I've spent his yearly allowance for food on consoles? Smiley: sly


Well, the govt. does give you $1000 a year for your first kid, and $500 for each additional kid, so I'd say that pretty much covers it.
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I'll get mine in Feb as well and likely jump on beta. I'm still a bit scared because I hear that some are arriving DOA, or die after a few hours of play. The usual suspects with new consoles. Thats why I wait a bit before I buy.


.4% of them sold so far, or 4000. Out of a million. Odds are good for you, my son. Smiley: smile
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I picked a PS4 up for FFXIV.. I have not even opened the box yet.
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I got my PS4 on Friday. I've been playing a lot of NBA2K14.

I need to carve out some time for FFXIV... :/

I was getting a bit burnt out on WP/AK running though. So its a nice break.
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Nashred wrote:
I picked a PS4 up for FFXIV.. I have not even opened the box yet.

You might want to check that its not part of the 1%..I got it Friday and have only played Madden on it a couple times..FF14 has consumed free time..in a good way though..
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I will probably pick one up when Infamous Second Son comes out. Then there is the next Uncharted game :)
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Nashred wrote:
I picked a PS4 up for FFXIV.. I have not even opened the box yet.

You might want to check that its not part of the 1%..I got it Friday and have only played Madden on it a couple times..FF14 has consumed free time..in a good way though..


What is that the fail rate on them?
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Currently, the assumed rate is under 1%

http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/20/5125266/ps4-failure-rate-gets-revised-to-under-1-percent
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#23 Nov 24 2013 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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The title of that article and how misleading it is has been revised to 100% failure rate Smiley: sly

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We also understand that some units were reportedly damaged during shipping. The number of affected PS4 systems is less than 1 percent, which represents a very small percentage of total units shipped to date and is within the expected range for a new product introduction.


Doesn't reflect people having the BBoD issue. The 1% only refers to units damaged during shipping.

I wonder how much more informed people would be were it possible for the majority of them to carry an idea through an entire paragraph, rather than just half a sentence....


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I think the primary cause of the recent weak launches is that console dominance of gaming is truly on the wane. People are still buying the consoles, for sure, but with the Steam boxes on the horizon, and all of the various anxiety of where gaming is headed is leading developers to sit out the release section, and wait to see who and how many adopt what platform before they go balls deep in developing a host of exclusives. Sure, you'll get the multi-platform games, but none of them will "make you want" X system over Y system.


Is that the popular opinion now? I'm wondering if people who share that sentiment want that to happen for their own personal reasons. Like PC gamers wanting consoles to die so they don't have to buy them for games like Final Fantasy, The last of us, Uncharted, or what ever console exclusives that don't make it to PC. PS4 having one of the largest launch sales in history shows that console dominance is on the wane? Both the Xbox and the Playstation dominated launch sales of their previous consoles. So I ask again, where does the the idea that consoles are dying come from? I'm sure I'm missing something, but the console and the PC experience are different worlds and it seems like people are still very interested in the former. I'd have accepted the reasoning behind consoles dying due to large development costs as a better reason that lackluster launch titles.

I'd say weak launches have to do with companies putting out their hard work at the end of a console cycle for the obvious reasons as there more console owners on the last gen. They use a smaller budget on launch titles because they're aware that not many people will have them early on. It's probably why games seem to increase in quality as time passes, because they they place more production value in the creation. (Though the popular opinion is that the devs got more familiar with the tech so they learn better ways to program. It's partly the reason but, I call BS on that being the main reason.) GTA V could have been in development for the xbox one and ps4 this whole time and we'd have seen one great launch title. However, they released on the old system for more sales. Can't hold that against them. So check this out, if more people bought launch consoles, would we then have better launch titles? Just something I pondered after reading some threads. A lot of the times, we usually ***** ourselves over with silly ideologies.

It's just amusing watching people justify over and over their reasons for not getting a new console. AMG the horrible 1% fail rate on both of them. Nothing good out yet, etc. No one is thinking any less of them for it. They'll get one soon as their favorite title drops.

I played my ps2 heavily through the first 3 years of the ps3. **** I started God of War in like 2009 (that made me very excited for GOW III and now I'm a huge fan) and was still catching up on ps2 titles I hadn't gotten around to playing. When I got a ps3 for FFXIII I had to play catch up with games like Uncharted, Infamous, and my beloved MGS4, which I didn't think warranted my 500-600 dollars yet. Now that I've experienced Infamous' great story, I have my ps4 ready for when It launches in the spring along side Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeros. The 200 dollar less price tag made it a no brainer for me this time. Not to mention I'm in a better place in my life compared to when the ps3 launched. I'm sure I'm not the only one, as shown by the great launch sales of both consoles. As gamers mature, so does our spending power. This gen seems to be on point for both systems. I hope to see great things from them.
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Pawkeshup the Meaningless wrote:
I think the primary cause of the recent weak launches is that console dominance of gaming is truly on the wane. People are still buying the consoles, for sure, but with the Steam boxes on the horizon, and all of the various anxiety of where gaming is headed is leading developers to sit out the release section, and wait to see who and how many adopt what platform before they go balls deep in developing a host of exclusives. Sure, you'll get the multi-platform games, but none of them will "make you want" X system over Y system.


Is that the popular opinion now? I'm wondering if people who share that sentiment want that to happen for their own personal reasons. Like PC gamers wanting consoles to die so they don't have to buy them for games like Final Fantasy, The last of us, Uncharted, or what ever console exclusives that don't make it to PC. PS4 having one of the largest launch sales in history shows that console dominance is on the wane? Both the Xbox and the Playstation dominated launch sales of their previous consoles. So I ask again, where does the the idea that consoles are dying come from? I'm sure I'm missing something, but the console and the PC experience are different worlds and it seems like people are still very interested in the former. I'd have accepted the reasoning behind consoles dying due to large development costs as a better reason that lackluster launch titles.


I don't think I'd call these launches weak at all. If you even considered purchasing a console, it probably crossed your mind that we're days away from doom now. A month from merry. Microsoft and Sony have all their little elves slaving away to make sure the jolly one will have enough to go around. I'd put off any conclusion about sales until the tree starts to brown. Take a step back, look at where we are in the cycle and what is on the horizon for releases... nod slowly.

The majority of the moolah is spent on marketing. They don't spend loads developing games immediately because they don't have to. It's cheaper to port a handful of titles from the previous gen. That's the reason you see EA and 2K flooding the shelves. I don't think people make the distinction between console launch and game launch and it leads to the unwarranted panic.
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I think the primary cause of the recent weak launches is that console dominance of gaming is truly on the wane. People are still buying the consoles, for sure, but with the Steam boxes on the horizon, and all of the various anxiety of where gaming is headed is leading developers to sit out the release section, and wait to see who and how many adopt what platform before they go balls deep in developing a host of exclusives. Sure, you'll get the multi-platform games, but none of them will "make you want" X system over Y system.


Is that the popular opinion now? I'm wondering if people who share that sentiment want that to happen for their own personal reasons. Like PC gamers wanting consoles to die so they don't have to buy them for games like Final Fantasy, The last of us, Uncharted, or what ever console exclusives that don't make it to PC. PS4 having one of the largest launch sales in history shows that console dominance is on the wane? Both the Xbox and the Playstation dominated launch sales of their previous consoles. So I ask again, where does the the idea that consoles are dying come from? I'm sure I'm missing something, but the console and the PC experience are different worlds and it seems like people are still very interested in the former. I'd have accepted the reasoning behind consoles dying due to large development costs as a better reason that lackluster launch titles.


I don't think I'd call these launches weak at all. If you even considered purchasing a console, it probably crossed your mind that we're days away from doom now. A month from merry. Microsoft and Sony have all their little elves slaving away to make sure the jolly one will have enough to go around. I'd put off any conclusion about sales until the tree starts to brown. Take a step back, look at where we are in the cycle and what is on the horizon for releases... nod slowly.

The majority of the moolah is spent on marketing. They don't spend loads developing games immediately because they don't have to. It's cheaper to port a handful of titles from the previous gen. That's the reason you see EA and 2K flooding the shelves. I don't think people make the distinction between console launch and game launch and it leads to the unwarranted panic.


Yep they both sold out. they both did about a million... In about two years we need to see where they are..

The broken ps3 do worry me and it looks like MS has issues too.. I had the 360 and went through like 4 of them.. The failure rate was like 34 percent of launch several weeks or months later which was bad. Might be a few percent now but lets see what it is in a few weeks. Also looking at all the Amazon reviews of all the dead ps4 does not mean much since anyone with a account can post... I am sure allot of those people are xbox fan boys trying to fan the flames. It will also happen to the xbox one.
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Yep they both sold out. they both did about a million... In about two years we need to see where they are..

The broken ps3 do worry me and it looks like MS has issues too.. I had the 360 and went through like 4 of them.. The failure rate was like 34 percent of launch several weeks or months later which was bad. Might be a few percent now but lets see what it is in a few weeks. Also looking at all the Amazon reviews of all the dead ps4 does not mean much since anyone with a account can post... I am sure allot of those people are xbox fan boys trying to fan the flames. It will also happen to the xbox one.


According to the class action lawsuit filed in California some years back, the failure rate of 360s was closer to 50%. And yet Microsoft still led over Sony in the North American market for much if not the entire last generation (so, you may cynically conclude that failures rates at launch play no part in a consumer's decision to get a console or to abandon it afterward).

However, not to worry, both Microsoft and Sony have solved this problem for all time: You can no longer use their consoles without first agreeing to never file a class action lawsuit against them. Smiley: rolleyes
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Yep they both sold out. they both did about a million... In about two years we need to see where they are..

The broken ps3 do worry me and it looks like MS has issues too.. I had the 360 and went through like 4 of them.. The failure rate was like 34 percent of launch several weeks or months later which was bad. Might be a few percent now but lets see what it is in a few weeks. Also looking at all the Amazon reviews of all the dead ps4 does not mean much since anyone with a account can post... I am sure allot of those people are xbox fan boys trying to fan the flames. It will also happen to the xbox one.


According to the class action lawsuit filed in California some years back, the failure rate of 360s was closer to 50%. And yet Microsoft still led over Sony in the North American market for much if not the entire last generation (so, you may cynically conclude that failures rates at launch play no part in a consumer's decision to get a console or to abandon it afterward).

However, not to worry, both Microsoft and Sony have solved this problem for all time: You can no longer use their consoles without first agreeing to never file a class action lawsuit against them. Smiley: rolleyes


Yeah my 360 failed once then they either fixed it or sent me a new one, I don't remember. My current 360 still overheats but not as much. I also got the 360 a year after it launched and again, it still RRODed.

MS "winning" the last gen is really testiment to how MS "got" the player base and how Sony didn't...even with the RROD issues.

The PS3 was more expensive, harder to develop for, and didn't really have a great lineup of games until mid to late in its existence. Sure it had Blu-ray, but at the time it was a toss-up.

The 360 had better online games, GoW, Mass Effect, a better controller, was easier to develop for and was cheaper.

This generation is less clear, but I've played both systems and really they're both great. Its going to come down to exclusives and I think the PS4 has the edge as I hope thier momentum from late in the PS3s life, carries over.

I'm really excited for FFXV and of course FFXIV on PS4!
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MS "winning" the last gen is really testiment to how MS "got" the player base and how Sony didn't...even with the RROD issues.

The PS3 was more expensive, harder to develop for, and didn't really have a great lineup of games until mid to late in its existence. Sure it had Blu-ray, but at the time it was a toss-up.

The 360 had better online games, GoW, Mass Effect, a better controller, was easier to develop for and was cheaper.

This generation is less clear, but I've played both systems and really they're both great. Its going to come down to exclusives and I think the PS4 has the edge as I hope thier momentum from late in the PS3s life, carries over.

I'm really excited for FFXV and of course FFXIV on PS4!


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#1 most awesome thing for XBOX 360 - The XBOX Live Interface is perfect in all aspects.
#2 most awesome thing for XBOX 360 - Microsoft gets voice chat down to a science.
#3 most awesome thing for XBOX 360 - The controller feels comfortable in my hands.

#1 crap thing about XBOX 360 - They license one RPG per year and call it a day.
#2 crap thing about XBOX 360 - 260 + racing games and FPS (and sometimes racing FPS)

#1 most awesome thing for PS3 - Sony understands the RPG gamer.

#1 crap thing about PS3 - The PSN interface is terrible. Feels very unintuitive.
#2 crap thing about PS3 - I cant download Ventrillo or Teamspeak or Mumble so I can hear my team. I cant even voice chat with other PS3 players. Sucksssss.
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#3 most awesome thing for XBOX 360 - The controller feels comfortable in my hands.


I love how you phrase this. Smiley: thumbsup

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Just as an FYI - Crystal downloaded an app on iPhone the other day that you all may be interested in if you still need to get a PS4 (or any other hot holiday gift you can't find.)

I can't find a link to the app in apple's iTunes store, but if you search on your phone you'll see it:

Whohas.it

This will tell you where you can go to buy the item now... rather than having to search the web looking for who has it, this app does it for you.

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Just as an FYI - Crystal downloaded an app on iPhone the other day that you all may be interested in if you still need to get a PS4 (or any other hot holiday gift you can't find.)

I can't find a link to the app in apple's iTunes store, but if you search on your phone you'll see it:

Whohas.it

This will tell you where you can go to buy the item now... rather than having to search the web looking for who has it, this app does it for you.


registered and following! I'll be grabbing the app when i get home. Thanks for this. Very cool.

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Wait the ps3 has outsold the xbox 360 worldwide. Also all those broken console were counted like the 3 I went through. You remove the people who had to buy multiple consoles the gap would be allot more.

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