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#1 Nov 18 2013 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Or should I just stop queueing up for it in the Duty Finder and make a group?

I could not figure out how to get past Story Mode Garuda... we always wiped at the same point, about halfway through her healthbar she'll go to the middle and do some super strong wind move that wipes the whole group... it's really annoying... is there something I'm not getting or did my groups just suck?

On a side note, if any ZAM FC members want to help me win this I would be extremely grateful. Smiley: grin

Edited, Nov 18th 2013 8:28am by Hairspray
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#2 Nov 18 2013 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly, I was 1/16 (DF Groups) on this fight, it was depressing. You absolutely must keep as many columns intact as possible to mitigate as much damage as you can when you move to phase two of the fight. If not, even with the Tank Limit Break, Garuda will one shot you.

In other words, get those plumes as fast as you can, make sure your BRD or BLM know to AOE them as soon as the pop. Get that right and it's easy, making a DF group understand that is quite the battle though...
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#3 Nov 18 2013 at 7:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thats really it, the damage is dependant on the number of rocks left. This is similar to titans heart/ifirits nails. It is basically a dps check. If you dont kill plumes fast enough her move at 50% kills you.

There are 4 pillars, each pillar is 3 rocks, so you start with 12, and by 50% you need at least 6 or more rocks left if you want to survive. Ideally you want 8.
#4 Nov 18 2013 at 8:08 AM Rating: Good
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Okay cool, AoE damage, check... As a 46 DRG what can I do to help knock these out faster?

you can check my gear by looking at the link in my signature for Meat Mithkabob.

-nevermind, SE decided to change it to my Carpenter gear after all...

Any advice would be helpful, thanks!

Edit: Just realized that I got a new skill at 46 "Ring of Thorns" for AoE, and I had only run this fight at level 45... maybe that will help. Smiley: grin



Edited, Nov 18th 2013 9:30am by Hairspray
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#5 Nov 18 2013 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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The big secret to a normal run would be to have everyone pop their AoE move the second the adds spawn at garuda, this way most adds will be almost dead without ever touching the stones. This goes for the tanks also (Circle of scorn for PLD, the wrath move for WAR).

Second tip is to not stand close to the pillars when Garuda moves to do a damage move, as long as you have a pillar between you and her, it wont damage you, but if you stand on top of it, the ranged attack she sends out straight after can hit the pillar and knock off a stone. Because of this you want to have some distance from the stones at all times.

As for speedruns (and youll do a lot of those once you're geared with relic), the most efficient way of killing her is the exact opposite. If you have enough dps, it's possible to have everyone only attack garuda, and ger her low enough to use Aerial Blast (special big move) before adds have enough time to do much dmg to the pillars. This is how people kill her in 4 min etc.

As for every other fight in the game, practice makes perfect, just do her enough time, and eventually you'll be able to predict her every move down to the second, just keep going at it, GL!

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#6 Nov 18 2013 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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Ok as a drg I just spammed the drg aoe non stop when they popped.
#7 Nov 18 2013 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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Except pld dont have an ae dmg skill until 50, which you cant be for garuda NM. But yeah, ae = good, even get a whm involved with holy.

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Except pld dont have an ae dmg skill until 50, which you cant be for garuda NM. But yeah, ae = good, even get a whm involved with holy.



Cool, thanks. I'm assuming every job except paladin has an AoE of some sort at level 46?
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#9 Nov 18 2013 at 9:33 AM Rating: Excellent
On DRG, I rotate Heavy Thrust >> Ring of Thorns >> Heavy Thrust >> Ring of Thorns >> etc on the plumes to make sure I get the combo bonus damage each time. It also helps on TP consumption.
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IKickYoDog wrote:
On DRG, I rotate Heavy Thrust >> Ring of Thorns >> Heavy Thrust >> Ring of Thorns >> etc on the plumes to make sure I get the combo bonus damage each time. It also helps on TP consumption.


Is there a way to make sure you are flanking those?

I didn't know which way they were facing tbh.
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#11 Nov 18 2013 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Hairspray wrote:
IKickYoDog wrote:
On DRG, I rotate Heavy Thrust >> Ring of Thorns >> Heavy Thrust >> Ring of Thorns >> etc on the plumes to make sure I get the combo bonus damage each time. It also helps on TP consumption.


Is there a way to make sure you are flanking those?

I didn't know which way they were facing tbh.


Any enemy you have target has a colored ring on the ground. That ring has an arrow that designates what direction the mob is facing.

Take a look at this picture

If you look at the red circle on the ground below Garuda, you see an arrow (it kind of looks like a nub I guess) pointing at the tank to the right. All mobs have this, though some are smaller than others, such as the lights in AK. Just make sure you are to the left or right of the arrow and the combo will proc.
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IKickYoDog wrote:
Any enemy you have target has a colored ring on the ground. That ring has an arrow that designates what direction the mob is facing.

Take a look at this picture

If you look at the red circle on the ground below Garuda, you see an arrow (it kind of looks like a nub I guess) pointing at the tank to the right. All mobs have this, though some are smaller than others, such as the lights in AK. Just make sure you are to the left or right of the arrow and the combo will proc.


Wow, how did I not know this? Thanks for being patient with me and actually answering my questions... This is why I love ZAM!

No matter how stupid the question, it will more than likely get answered... and I have a crap-ton of stupid questions, let me tell you.
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#13 Nov 18 2013 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
No problem bud. I have a crap-ton of Google Image searching skills to help ya out! Smiley: lol
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Someone mentioned the tank should use Circle of scorn on the mobs but its a level 50 move and cant be used in normal mode.

Other than the advice given, remember in the second phase of the fight when you are fighting in the smaller area that when Garuda flies out to the edge of the stage you need to run to the opposite side as far away as you can to avoid taking huge damage/instant death. She also uses that same move that destroys the rocks in the first parts of the fight, but this time there is no real warning other than seeing her power up to use it, so dont stand infront of her when you see this.

Also take not when Garuda turns to attack other players in the earlier part of the fight, if the player is standing near the rocks it will damage them as well. So stand to the left or right side of them, not right near the rocks.

Heres a useful vid- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsD7oPPlqKs

Edited, Nov 18th 2013 4:23pm by aadrenry
#15 Nov 18 2013 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
Good old story mode Garuda, the only primal that's more difficult in the story compared to it's HM version.
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Good old story mode Garuda, the only primal that's more difficult in the story compared to it's HM version.


I certainly didn't think so. HM has tons more plumes in phase 1, has the 2 adds in phase 2 that need to be burned ASAP and kept apart, has the tornadoes to avoid, and then they rotate and have to run around the whole arena, have to kill satin plumes, etc. There's way more mechanics in HM than normal and personally I'd say it's a more difficult fight overall, as you need to get 8 people who all understand it as opposed to just 4.
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#17 Nov 18 2013 at 5:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you still havent gotten Garuda SM down before I log in this evening I will tank her for you.
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#18 Nov 18 2013 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
Isn't this the part where everyone runs out of the middle, so her big AE doesn't hurt as bad?
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I'm 5 of 9 (roughly) on this fight so far. The real thing, for me, that makes or breaks this instance is offtank keeping red mob occupied as green is burned down.

Feathers shouldn't ever be an issue with at least one bard and blm in the group. And honestly I was in a party with 3 dragoons (including myself) and we burned feathers down pretty well.

It's about keeping red away from DPS while focused on green.


Crap. Just realized this is story mode. Too much wine...

Edited, Nov 18th 2013 9:02pm by ShindaUsagi
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#20 Nov 18 2013 at 8:03 PM Rating: Good
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I blame Shinda

Don't put it all on the off tank though, I have had about even instances of DPS getting excited and accidently firing off a shot or two on red first.

Another thing a lot of people seem to not know is when she pops in the center and calls down the feathers, if your PT has decent DPS you can just ignore those feathers and DPS her down. If some one says ignore those adds though and one or two DPS don't listen then it can cause issues. Otherwise, she kills them for you.


Edited, Nov 19th 2013 2:04am by Perrin
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Perrin wrote:
I blame Shinda

Don't put it all on the off tank though, I have had about even instances of DPS getting excited and accidently firing off a shot or two on red first.

Another thing a lot of people seem to not know is when she pops in the center and calls down the feathers, if your PT has decent DPS you can just ignore those feathers and DPS her down. If some one says ignore those adds though and one or two DPS don't listen then it can cause issues. Otherwise, she kills them for you.


Edited, Nov 19th 2013 2:04am by Perrin


No I agree on both accounts. The feathers in particular. That last salvo should be completely ignored if everyone did their jobs up to that point.

Edit* lol at Perrin

Edited, Nov 18th 2013 9:06pm by ShindaUsagi

Edited, Nov 18th 2013 9:07pm by ShindaUsagi
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Hairspray wrote:
I could not figure out how to get past Story Mode Garuda... we always wiped at the same point, about halfway through her healthbar she'll go to the middle and do some super strong wind move that wipes the whole group... it's really annoying... is there something I'm not getting or did my groups just suck?


She does two of those wind attacks (i forget the name) after she two hours, they're the same ones that you can use the stones for protection for earlier in the fight. Note the way she's pointing when she does this, don't stand in front of her. The second time she does this she'll go to the side of the area. The half of the middle circle closest to her will take damage, the half of the circle further away from her won't take damage. That's all there is to it, just takes a bit pf practice, plus knowing how it works helps. Smiley: smile
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Thanks to everyone in The Kraken Club who chipped in last night to help... we took out Garuda on both Meat Mithkabob and Crystal Light... I'm so psyched... we're closing in on end-game!

Thanks!!! Smiley: grin
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#24 Nov 19 2013 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Honestly watch videos on youtube it is a great way to learn the fights. I usually watch several for each fight or dungeon.
It also helps to be at cap for the fights.
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#25 Nov 19 2013 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
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Nashred wrote:
Honestly watch videos on youtube it is a great way to learn the fights. I usually watch several for each fight or dungeon.
It also helps to be at cap for the fights.


I agree, I actually did watch a few videos before asking here... but my groups kept dying when Garuda used Arial Blast before going into phase 2... which is kind of why I asked here.

Either way I am past it now thanks to my AWESOME FREE COMPANY!!!
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#26 Nov 19 2013 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Hairspray wrote:
Nashred wrote:
Honestly watch videos on youtube it is a great way to learn the fights. I usually watch several for each fight or dungeon.
It also helps to be at cap for the fights.


I agree, I actually did watch a few videos before asking here... but my groups kept dying when Garuda used Arial Blast before going into phase 2... which is kind of why I asked here.

Either way I am past it now thanks to my AWESOME FREE COMPANY!!!


Congrtaz... Since we are in the same LS dont hesitate to ask for help, always willing to help I did Garuda last week.. I am still in story mode and so is Tesee... We are at the next dungeon after the garuda fight. The one with 8 people.. Maybe we can do it together, also I believe Xando in the ls is at that point.. We can help each other out..
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Nashred wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
Nashred wrote:
Honestly watch videos on youtube it is a great way to learn the fights. I usually watch several for each fight or dungeon.
It also helps to be at cap for the fights.


I agree, I actually did watch a few videos before asking here... but my groups kept dying when Garuda used Arial Blast before going into phase 2... which is kind of why I asked here.

Either way I am past it now thanks to my AWESOME FREE COMPANY!!!


Congrtaz... Since we are in the same LS dont hesitate to ask for help, always willing to help I did Garuda last week.. I am still in story mode and so is Tesee... We are at the next dungeon after the garuda fight. The one with 8 people.. Maybe we can do it together, also I believe Xando in the ls is at that point.. We can help each other out..


We just finished Garuda last night, then got past the solo fight a few quests later, but we're not quite at the dungeon yet.

You guys don't need to wait on us or anything, but if you are still on that when we get to that point then sure!
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#28 Nov 19 2013 at 12:51 PM Rating: Excellent
If you guys need help with stuff and could use a geared DRG, you can hit me up as well. In-game is Iwent Toofar. I'm on most nights and have a couple days per week that I'm not really doing anything except crafting or running tomes.
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Tomorrow night is storyline progression night, so if you guys all get to a dungeon/battle, let us know and we can run it with you. I think Cape Westwind is the next one you need. Or was there one before that? Either way, sign up on the forums and post what you want to run and we'll get it done. Smiley: nod
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BartelX wrote:
Tomorrow night is storyline progression night, so if you guys all get to a dungeon/battle, let us know and we can run it with you. I think Cape Westwind is the next one you need. Or was there one before that? Either way, sign up on the forums and post what you want to run and we'll get it done. Smiley: nod


Cool thanks, we're not quite at the next one yet... we have a lot of things we do in real life that limits our playtime. I'm not even sure if we'll be on tonight due to a RL obligation, if we are it won't be until later in the evening (after 10 or 11 Eastern)... don't wait for us, just run that stuff and we'll get to it eventually.

Crafting has been a godsend for me because I don't have the time to dedicate to this game like I did in FFXI, and it's actually fun too!
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BartelX wrote:
Tomorrow night is storyline progression night, so if you guys all get to a dungeon/battle, let us know and we can run it with you. I think Cape Westwind is the next one you need. Or was there one before that? Either way, sign up on the forums and post what you want to run and we'll get it done. Smiley: nod


Beat the cape last night we need:
Rock the castrum
Castrum Meridianum
And if possible the next dungeon fight too if there is time.. There is only one cut scene in between and I believe xando is on this one.
Tesee leaves on Sunday for a week or so and we are trying to push to get her too the end of story mode before she leaves.
Bartel thanks for the help last week..




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Sorry I've missed the last few, and will miss again tonight. I've had extended family from out of town and unmatched spouse aggro lately. So mainly crafting at 2am right now lol
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Hairspray wrote:
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Tomorrow night is storyline progression night, so if you guys all get to a dungeon/battle, let us know and we can run it with you. I think Cape Westwind is the next one you need. Or was there one before that? Either way, sign up on the forums and post what you want to run and we'll get it done. Smiley: nod


Cool thanks, we're not quite at the next one yet... we have a lot of things we do in real life that limits our playtime. I'm not even sure if we'll be on tonight due to a RL obligation, if we are it won't be until later in the evening (after 10 or 11 Eastern)... don't wait for us, just run that stuff and we'll get to it eventually.

Crafting has been a godsend for me because I don't have the time to dedicate to this game like I did in FFXI, and it's actually fun too!


Same has happened here.. Winter should give us a little more time.. I was looking forward to this game because it didn't require the time FFXI does but it still requires a good chunk even still.. As long as new players keep coming in and people are willing to help we are ok.. Again if you need help I dont mind helping out even if I have done it just send me a tell...
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Nashred wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Tomorrow night is storyline progression night, so if you guys all get to a dungeon/battle, let us know and we can run it with you. I think Cape Westwind is the next one you need. Or was there one before that? Either way, sign up on the forums and post what you want to run and we'll get it done. Smiley: nod


Cool thanks, we're not quite at the next one yet... we have a lot of things we do in real life that limits our playtime. I'm not even sure if we'll be on tonight due to a RL obligation, if we are it won't be until later in the evening (after 10 or 11 Eastern)... don't wait for us, just run that stuff and we'll get to it eventually.

Crafting has been a godsend for me because I don't have the time to dedicate to this game like I did in FFXI, and it's actually fun too!


Same has happened here.. Winter should give us a little more time.. I was looking forward to this game because it didn't require the time FFXI does but it still requires a good chunk even still.. As long as new players keep coming in and people are willing to help we are ok.. Again if you need help I dont mind helping out even if I have done it just send me a tell...


Awesome thanks!
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#35 Nov 21 2013 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
Not sure if it was mentioned, but if you stack on the pillars, they will definitely fall, if you are back a bit from them they wont. I.E. Don't stack on top of them, back up a bit ^^
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Hairspray wrote:
Nashred wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Tomorrow night is storyline progression night, so if you guys all get to a dungeon/battle, let us know and we can run it with you. I think Cape Westwind is the next one you need. Or was there one before that? Either way, sign up on the forums and post what you want to run and we'll get it done. Smiley: nod


Cool thanks, we're not quite at the next one yet... we have a lot of things we do in real life that limits our playtime. I'm not even sure if we'll be on tonight due to a RL obligation, if we are it won't be until later in the evening (after 10 or 11 Eastern)... don't wait for us, just run that stuff and we'll get to it eventually.

Crafting has been a godsend for me because I don't have the time to dedicate to this game like I did in FFXI, and it's actually fun too!


Same has happened here.. Winter should give us a little more time.. I was looking forward to this game because it didn't require the time FFXI does but it still requires a good chunk even still.. As long as new players keep coming in and people are willing to help we are ok.. Again if you need help I dont mind helping out even if I have done it just send me a tell...


Awesome thanks!


Grats on beating Garuda Hairspray! Cape Westwind fight is cake and then you have around ten really annoying little run around quests before Castrum and Praetorium, and the CS there are really worth it!
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#37 Nov 24 2013 at 12:54 AM Rating: Good
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Didn't see it mentioned here, but for Garuda when she pops to the middle of the room (second time/50% healthish) where it usually one-shots everyone, if a Tank uses a lvl 1 or 2 limit break, everyone will survive and you can continue the fight. After that, I think it's just being behind her when she channels and at the opposite end of the room when she channels in her whirlwind.
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#38 Nov 24 2013 at 5:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Not true, everyone will survive IF
A) they have enough hp
B) enough rocks are left

The more rocks left = the less dmg it does
Even with rocks left, if you have an under geared person in lvl 30 gear, they still might die due to lack of hp
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