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Yoshi-P wrote:

The Operation and Splitting of Patches for FFXIV: ARR

This is Producer/Director Yoshida here. We’ve been receiving questions about the release date of patch 2.1 as well as requests to split patches into smaller installments. I’d like to take a moment to inform you about our policy for patches and the current status of patch 2.1.


Patch Operation and Cycle

It’s been three months since the launch of FFXIV: ARR. If you’ve have been focusing on a single job and leveled it all the way to the cap, there’s a chance that you’ve hit a dead end in content. We’ve envisioned a two and a half to three month patch cycle for FFXIV, with patch 2.1 originally scheduled for late November.

However, due to my inadequate planning for the massive congestion that occurred at launch, we’ve had to allocate nearly all of the server team’s resources to adding Worlds and data centers, and improving the stability of instance servers. As a result, we’ve fallen four weeks behind schedule.

The FFXIV team employs a “branch” method of development. Simply put, multiple versions of the game are being developed simultaneously. For example, the development team is currently working along the following development lines:


(1) Patch 2.05 Public Testing(Current)

-> The exact same environment as our players.
-> Bug reports you submit are verified in this environment.


(2) Patch 2.2-2.3/PlayStation4 Version Development(Future)

-> The forefront of development.
-> Includes patch 2.2 elements and PlayStation 4 version data.


(3) Patch 2.1 Testing (Near Future)

-> A separate line that includes elements from 2.1 through to (2).
-> Development of all content and systems for 2.1.
-> Debugging and balance adjustments for 2.1.

There are even more test lines than above, but it would get overly complicated, so I won’t touch on them.

Basically, development work on (1) flows into (2), but in order to ensure that 2.1 is properly tested and balanced prior to release, we’ve created a dedicated branch for it, that being (3).

When a patch release date draws near, we create a master branch for that patch wherein the final touches are made (2.1 has already been branched, by the way). In so doing, we prevent patches from going live with unfinished and unstable elements from future patches.

Work on 2.1 has been in progress since the launch of FFXIV: ARR. However, due to the large-scale measures we’ve had to implement to address issues in (1), the branching of (3) from (2) has been delayed.

Moving forward, we will endeavor to stick to our original plan of one patch every two and a half to three months, and commence a steady patch cycle.


Splitting Patches

In a large-scale game with simultaneous development such as ours, the meticulous management of content and programs is critical. The branch method of development allows us to prevent data from getting jumbled up.

For a single patch, 2.1 features an unprecedented amount of content, most of which will add depth and variety to the game. As such, we judged that it should be released all at once.

While it isn’t impossible to release a patch in installments, i.e. 2.1a, 2.1b, and so on, 2.1 doesn’t lend itself well to this. This is because many of the things being planned either require a long time in development, or affect a broad range of game elements. For example:

  • Housing system and related UI
  • The Wolves’ Den and related UI
  • Large-scale update for the Duty Finder
  • Full-fledged Party Finder system


If we were to release 2.1 in installments, the risk of unfinished elements accidentally finding their way in would be increased significantly.

It takes a number of days to cleanly separate a branch, and if you include the time needed for debugging and master testing, we’re looking at 7-12 days to prepare it for release. As a result, the time it takes to deliver all of patch 2.1 would be stretched out another 2-4 weeks. For this reason, we've decided to release everything in one batch—ultimately the shortest route in the long run.

Now, I’m aware of the requests to release minor tweaks first—improving existing functions and adjusting jobs, for instance. However, most of the functions being discussed are closely tied to the server code, and requires more work than it seems. And as for the jobs, time is needed to ensure that they are balanced, as well as test them in the context of new content. If we try to push these tweaks out too early, we risk disappointing our players.

Some of you have also expressed the concern that people will leave the game during this downtime. Naturally, we’ve also taken this risk into consideration, and have been monitoring the forums closely. But ultimately, rather than risk destroying balance by splitting the patch, we’ve decided to stay focused on the mid- and long-term enjoyment of our players. Releasing 2.1 in one batch, we believe, is the best way to do so.

2.1 will usher in sweeping improvements across the board, thus laying a solid foundation for the possibility of patch series in the future. We’ll continue to monitor the situation after patch 2.1 and review our operations policy as we go along.

2.1 is just a few weeks away, and we ask for your patience just a while longer. With countless additions and refinements to battles, crafting, and gathering, not to mention the introduction of PvP, housing, and new soloable content, I promise that it will live up to your expectations.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113472-Warrior-buff-in-2.1-not-what-we-are-expecting?p=1578531#post1578531

Yoshi-P wrote:

Planned Changes to Warrior in Patch 2.1

Producer and director Yoshi-P here.

I understand that all our warriors out there are eager to know what patch 2.1 has in store for them. While we’re still in the testing stages, I’d like to give you a preview of what we have planned. Please keep in mind that warrior is still being tested in all encounters available in 2.1, and the following information is subject to change.
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Marauder Changes

  • Brutal Swing
- Recast time will be reduced from 30 to 20 seconds, increasing the frequency with which players can stun foes.

  • Overpower
- Enmity generated by this skill has been increased.

  • Storm's Eye
- TP cost will be reduced from 70 to 60.

  • Storm's Path
- TP cost will be reduced from 90 to 60.
- This skill will also reduce damage dealt by enemies for a period of time.

  • Holmgang
- Range will be increased from 3 yalms to 6, to make the skill more effective.
- This skill will now pull enemies toward your character.
- When using this skill, a player's HP cannot be reduced lower than 1.
- The animation for this skill will be revised. (See screenshot above)

  • Vengeance
- This skill will also reduce damage taken by 30%.

  • Mercy Stroke
- Recast time will be reduced from 60 to 40 seconds, improving ease of use.

  • Thrill of Battle
- Effect duration will be extended from 10 to 20 seconds.


Warrior Changes

  • Defiance
- Enmity generated by this skill will be increased.
- This skill will also increase HP recovery via curing magic by 20%.

  • Wrath
- The improved healing effect granted by Wrath will be removed. Instead, the improved healing effect will be granted by Defiance.

  • Inner Beast
- Due to overall balance changes, HP absorbed by damage dealt will be reduced from 300% to 100%
- Damage taken will be reduced by 20% for 6 seconds.

  • Steel Cyclone
- This skill will generate increased enmity.

  • Unchained
- Recast time will be reduced from 180 to 120 seconds, improving ease of use.


The main focus of these changes—as the seasoned warriors among you have already observed— was Inner Beast and its HP absorption effect. With these changes, warriors will no longer be dependent on a single skill to recover HP, and have overall improved defense.

To put it simply, we want to ensure the role of warriors as durable tanks. This is why we've also adjusted the effects of Wrath and Defiance. As currently implemented, warriors are forced to lose their healing bonus when using certain skills. However, these changes will allow players to use their warrior skills without sacrificing improved healing, and also maintain the critical hit bonus of Wrath.

Although warrior will no longer recover immense amounts of HP in a single use of Inner Beast, these changes should improve the overall defensive capability of warriors and the ability to heal them using a support class or job.

Patch 2.1 may seem a long way off, but please understand that we have to test these balance changes not only in encounters to be introduced in the upcoming patch, but all existing encounters as well.
(Please refer to a previous post for details on why we cannot break up patch 2.1)
While I regret having to keep you waiting, I am confident these changes, along with the numerous additions we have planned for patch 2.1, will be well worth your patience.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/103653-whats-the-point-of-crafting...?p=1578532#post1578532

Yoshi-p wrote:

Crafting and High-Level Items

FFXIV: A Realm Reborn Producer and Director Yoshi-P here with a few thoughts on crafting and high-level items.

As always, I appreciate the constructive feedback that many of you have offered on this important topic. In this post, I’d like to discuss our vision for the role of crafting in Eorzea.

Crafting of High-Item-Level Gear

As you all know, the item level cap in FFXIV Version 2.0-2.1 is item level 90.
(We will be implementing a slight balance adjustment based upon our observations of item distribution within the player population.)
There are currently two ways to obtain item level 90 gear: by conquering the game’s most challenging dungeon, or by collecting and exchanging Allagan tomestones.

In contrast, the highest-item-level gear that is currently craftable is item level 70. Looking simply at the difference, this appears to a very significant gap. That said, the materia system (including advanced materia melding) allows for the crafting of gear more powerful than its item level would suggest, gear that can—when augmented with effective materia combinations—serve players well even in the most challenging battles.

That said, it is impossible to craft higher-item-level gear, or gear that is completely equal in power to the highest-item-level gear available.

This is an intentional decision that we made for a few reasons, which I would like to explain in detail.


Preserving the Appeal of Dungeons

While there are a variety of ways to enjoy FFXIV, the desire to become powerful is a great motivator for many players. In particular, the impressive weapons and armor obtainable by triumphing in high-level PvE encounters attract many players to take on these challenges.

If the same items were made craftable, some players might find it easier to save up their gil, robbing them of this motivation to undertake the game’s toughest battles.

I realize this is a worst-case scenario. In a perfect world, it would simply be another option, and players would have the choice of either fighting or saving money to obtain their desired gear. Unfortunately, this remains a concern.


Ensuring Item Rarity

We also believe that the strongest gear available at a given time should not be obtainable by all players.
As of Version 2.0-2.1, this position is held by the Allagan gear that may be won by completing the Binding Coil of Bahamut. With only the most skilled of adventurers able to complete this challenge, many others must settle for obtaining high-item-level gear via tomestones while biding their time, waiting for the difficulty of this battle to be eased.

Crafted gear plays an important role in allowing players to triumph in battle and obtain the strongest gear. Furthermore, as the item level cap is raised in patches to come, new recipes for higher-item-level gear will be added, preserving the valuable role of crafters while maintaining this intentional gap.

As our first patch has not yet arrived, it may seem as if the current state of items and crafting is static, but rest assured that subsequent patches will introduce higher-item-level gear, along with many new opportunities for crafters.
The class/job level cap will remain at 50 for the time being, meaning that gear (including crafted gear) will play an increasingly important role in character growth in the months to come.

At the moment, players are striving to improve themselves within a relatively limited range of power, but this range will gradually expand as new content is released, and as the difference in play styles between players leads to greater disparity over time. As a result, even if they lack the ability to create the highest-item-level gear, crafters will always have an essential role in Eorzea.


RMT Concerns

“What if high-item-level gear was made craftable with materials dropped in the Binding Coil of Bahamut?” is a popular argument. As I alluded to in a previous section, we believe that the prices for such gear would be high, forcing players to choose between sacrificing time to earn gil, or taking on the battles themselves.

It is nevertheless an understandable suggestion, and one which is of course possible to implement.
However, we stand by our decision not to have the highest-level gear available for purchase. One of our primary reasons is that such a change would encourage RMT. Our team is working tirelessly to stamp out RMT entirely, closing thousands of accounts and seizing massive amounts of gil every week—this even in the game’s current state, where many believe that crafted items are in low demand.

Were the highest-item-level gear made craftable and available for purchase, it’s easy to foresee a problematic situation where RMT abusers would:

  • Overrun instances for item farming (monopolizing materials)
  • Buy high-item-level gear at excessive prices to drive up value (market manipulation)
  • More persistently solicit RMT gil purchases from players (increased spamming)


This would, in turn, lead to more players choosing to purchase gil, creating a vicious cycle that would feed further RMT abuse.

At one time, we considered the option of adding a more valuable, non-tradable currency that could be used to purchase these items on the market, but this idea was scrapped, as it made little sense from an overall gameplay perspective.


Existing Concerns and Future Plans

To summarize, in the game’s current state, the limited item level range for available gear means that many players are able to meet their needs with gear obtained in the course of leveling. Crafted gear remains useful for only a short period of time, resulting in low demand on the markets.
We are aware that this is especially true for weapons, with relic weapons becoming a sort of standard.

These issues will be eventually be dealt with by raising the level cap, but crafters need not wait that long for change. Patch 2.1 will see the addition of the Wolves’ Den and the Housing system, and the services of crafters will be in high demand for both PvP-related items and furnishings. Looking ahead to Patch 2.2, crafters will be able to alter gear designs using a “template” system (official name TBD), giving them yet another role in creating desirable gear.
Rest assured that we will not sit idly by as crafters go neglected.

In closing, I would like to emphasize that we will continue to look at the demand for crafted items in all aspects of gameplay, from PvE and PvP to housing, end-game content, and so forth. We will continue to explore options for expanding the role of crafters—if not by allowing for the crafting of the highest-item-level gear—with a close eye on that which is in the greatest demand in the ever-evolving world of Eorzea.
I hope all crafters will look forward to the changes to come!


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/104526-armory-system-useless-Mythology-Cap?p=1578533#post1578533

Yoshi-P wrote:

Upcoming Changes to Allagan Tomestone Acquisition

Producer and director Yoshi-P here.

Recently, we've noticed a number of threads discussing the weekly limit on Allagan tomestones of mythology. I'd like to talk about the reasons for this limit, as well as changes coming in patch 2.1 that will affect their acquisition.

Progression in FFXIV

As you'd expect, there are many more factors to consider when designing an MMORPG like FFXIV, compared to a stand-alone console game. These factors heavily influence combat design and balance.

Each encounter in FFXIV: ARR is crafted with a particular difficulty in mind. As players grow stronger by increasing their level, they will be able to complete early encounters. However, upon reaching level 50, players who wish to become even more powerful and tackle the hardest challenges must instead obtain better gear, thus increasing their item level. The time required to do so is dictated either by drop rates, or by the rate at which tomestones can be acquired, depending on the gear being sought.

Progression can therefore be described as follows:

  • Players reach level 50 while clearing the main scenario.
  • Upon reaching level 50, players begin acquiring gear to raise their item level.
  • Players take on encounters appropriate for their item level, acquiring new gear.
  • Upon acquiring new gear, players raise their item level, allowing them to challenge more difficult encounters.


Our ultimate goal is to give players the freedom to advance at their own pace. Having said that, the current design has room for improvement, which is why we will be implementing changes with patch 2.1.


Expectations for Progression Until Patch 2.1

From the initial release of FFXIV: ARR, we predicted it would take roughly a month and a half for the most dedicated players to reach the Binding of Coil of Bahamut, and roughly two months for the general player population. Furthermore, we wanted players to acquire gear using Allagan tomestones of mythology in tandem with clearing the Binding Coil. This served as the basis for determining the rate at which tomestones can be earned, which is currently limited to 300 tomestones of mythology per week. With the release of patch 2.1, this limit will be increased to about 450 tomestones per week, for reasons which will be explained at the end.


The Two Paths for Player Progression

One unique quality of MMORPGs is that, depending on how much time they have to play, a disparity between players can easily emerge. For example, let's say player A plays two hours per day, and player B plays five hours per day. After a week, there's a difference of 21 hours, after five weeks a difference of 105 hours, and after ten weeks a difference of 210 hours. MMORPGs are designed to be played over a long period of time, and as such, this gap between players will only increase as time goes on. This inevitably leads to several problems:

  • It becomes difficult for new players to join.
  • Casual players are likely to lose motivation to play.
  • The community is likely to become fragmented.


In an attempt to combat these trends, and also to encourage users to continue playing, most developers of the first generation of MMORPGs decided that items should only a fraction of the time. Because the chance of obtaining items was so low, it took a relatively long amount of time to obtain gear, meaning users would play longer.

However, when considering the lifestyle of users in today's market, the freedom to play at a more leisurely pace is essential. With no option but to continue running through instances, with no guarantee that the desired can be obtained, users are more likely to become stressed and stop playing all together.

These concerns led to the birth of the token system, which we have adopted for FFXIV: ARR. The merit of this system is that, although there is a limit on tomestone acquisition, users are guaranteed to obtain desired items after obtaining a set number of tokens.

Because every duty in ARR offers a set number of tomestones, players can easily determine how many instances they need to clear and how much time it will take. They can then play at their own pace to acquire the gear they desire. Furthermore, the more difficult encounters also incorporate a more traditional system of drop rewards. This offers players two options:

  • Play through the Binding Coil of Bahamut and obtain gear from drops.
  • Collect Allagan tomestones of mythology to exchange for gear.


Although these methods are different, each allows for the acquisition of level 90 gear.

In short, players who have ample time to play are free to collect tomestones, or challenge the Binding Coil, and those who have less time can still acquire tomestones at their leisure. Despite the difference in time available to players, the game is designed so that everyone can potentially obtain item level 90 gear.

However, please bear in mind that high-item-level gear alone may not enough to overcome some challenges. Because of the armory system’s design, end game encounters have been balanced for players who have not only leveled one job to 50, but who have also obtained abilities from other classes. That being said, we have no plans to make multiple jobs a requirement.


Providing Additional Paths for Player Progression

There's one key problem with the encounters available in 2.0: the limited number of options leads to linear progression for battle classes, and essentially leaves crafters and gathers by the wayside.

To be more specific, players are being pressured to join a party to play through a limited selection of instances for tomestones; there are few, if any, options for those who wish to collect them leisurely, efficiently, or even alone. Patch 2.1 will serve as a means to resolve this problem, giving players many more options to collect tomestones and play as they see fit.

Here is an example of how the upcoming update will appeal to more players:

  • Beast Tribe Quests
- Learn about the beast tribes in daily quests and acquire tomestones.

  • Treasure Hunts
- Search for buried treasure with up to four players and obtain crafting material, consumable items, and tomestones.

  • Duty Roulette
- Join a duty at random and receive bonus tomestones and experience points.

  • Housing
- Build and furnish a home with the aid of Eorzea's crafters and gatherers, or use your own skills to do the same.

  • Wolves' Den
- Test your combat skills against your fellow players, earning fame and fortune.

  • Crystal Tower
- Challenge an ancient tower with 23 of your strongest allies and face the dangers within.

  • Pharos Sirius
- Explore an abandoned lighthouse to obtain new gear and tomestones.

  • Two Hard Mode Dungeons
- Face greater dangers to obtain new gear and tomestones.

  • Aesthetician
- Keep your characters fresh by changing their appearance.

  • Extreme Primal Battles and Good King Moggle Mog
- Confront a mysterious new enemy and three familiar foes to obtain new gear and tomestones.

  • New Main Scenario Quests
- Work together with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn for the sake of Eorzea.

  • New Side Quests
- Take part in additional side stories to learn more about the peoples and cultures of Eorzea.

As you can see, this upcoming update will add more options for adventuring alone or in a group; the means to challenge other players in PvP; more incentive to craft, gather, and collect items; and new chapters in the game's ongoing story.

Patch 2.2 will introduce the next section of the Binding Coil of Bahamut, and we highly encourage players seeking a challenge to prepare for the new dangers ahead. To those of you have obtained all available gear in the Binding Coil, we hope you'll give the Wolves' Den a try and see how you fare against your fellow dungeon runners.

Raising the Tomestone Cap in 2.1


As I explained previously, because there are only a few ways to acquire tomestones, players have had no choice but to run the same dungeons over and over. While there are those who are fine with the current state of affairs, there are others who dislike the limit, as well as those who feel obligated to hit the weekly cap.

A. Players who dislike the limit:

-> “Once I reach the weekly cap, there's nothing else to do. If the limit was raised or removed, I would have a reason to play more.”


B. Players who feel obligated to hit the cap

-> “If I don't hit the weekly cap, I’ll fall behind. But having only a handful of dungeons is boring. I just want it over with fast.”

If we were to increase the weekly limit before patch 2.1, players who fall under category B would increase significantly. To satisfy both types of players, we feel it best to prioritize giving players more options.

I realize patch 2.1 was originally scheduled to be released in November, but due to problems with server congestion, and the need for server and system improvements, we were forced to delay the release one month. However, I assure you that the wait will be worth it, as the upcoming patch will not only include plenty of new content, but also improvements to the user interface and additional system updates.


There have been several posts asking why we have not split patch 2.1 into several smaller updates, the answer to which can be found in a recent post here on the forum.

We're working to have everything ready in a timely fashion, and we greatly appreciate your continued patience.


Edited, Nov 20th 2013 9:44am by Szabo
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What was wrong with Warrior before? :/

They were incredibly strong, but now they've kind of become gods? I dont understand.

I thought the problem was that people didnt understand how to use the job, not that the job itself was bad. Now they're the kings of enmity, overlords of invincibility if HP indeed cannot drop under 1 HP, have 30% damage resistance on their skills too... while also having 25% more HP all during that.

Why? Why did they have to pull a Tanaka on Warrior. It was balanced, now it's unmatched...
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#5 Nov 20 2013 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
Well, they've addressed just about every concern from the official forums, nicely done. The myth cap being raised is certainly welcomed since jobs like brd are almost 80% better geared through AF2 as opposed to allagan. Least my mnk mostly benfits from Allagan so it all works out.

Now I have to decide, keep leveling pld or switch to war which is what I wanted to do in the first place. Overall, psyched about the direction, been playing daily for 3 months and have no intention of slowing down.
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What was wrong with Warrior before? :/

They were incredibly strong, but now they've kind of become gods? I dont understand.

I thought the problem was that people didnt understand how to use the job, not that the job itself was bad. Now they're the kings of enmity, overlords of invincibility if HP indeed cannot drop under 1 HP, have 30% damage resistance on their skills too... while also having 25% more HP all during that.

Why? Why did they have to pull a Tanaka on Warrior. It was balanced, now it's unmatched...


Take a comparably geared War and Pld into Coil turn 1 and tell me how much fun that is for the healer on the War. By comparably geared I mean what every other job can use to beat turn 1 which is some DL,AK gear. The war gets whacked HARD.
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KojiroSoma wrote:
What was wrong with Warrior before? :/

They were incredibly strong, but now they've kind of become gods? I dont understand.

I thought the problem was that people didnt understand how to use the job, not that the job itself was bad. Now they're the kings of enmity, overlords of invincibility if HP indeed cannot drop under 1 HP, have 30% damage resistance on their skills too... while also having 25% more HP all during that.

Why? Why did they have to pull a Tanaka on Warrior. It was balanced, now it's unmatched...



I agree that WAR was already a viable job but it needed a little help and this help does not make it a GOD although on paper it does seem like there is a substantial boost to overall playability. One thing that WAR had against it was that PLD was more effective in Stuns, easier to keep alive (less mega heals or bombing), and in certain situations the PLD was the overall choice. They wanted ALL jobs to have a roll and not allow one job be overwhelmingly dominant in a situation, making the other job(s) useless, like FFXI. I think this is a good step in that direction. If its too much they can hot fix or tweak with the next patch but I think it will work out great.
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Holmgang just became Warriors Hallowed Ground!
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KojiroSoma wrote:
What was wrong with Warrior before? :/

They were incredibly strong, but now they've kind of become gods? I dont understand.

I thought the problem was that people didnt understand how to use the job, not that the job itself was bad. Now they're the kings of enmity, overlords of invincibility if HP indeed cannot drop under 1 HP, have 30% damage resistance on their skills too... while also having 25% more HP all during that.

Why? Why did they have to pull a Tanaka on Warrior. It was balanced, now it's unmatched...


Yes, a paper thin tank getting facesmashed all over in Coil was "balanced".

Smiley: rolleyes

"I thought the problem was that people didnt understand how to use the job, not that the job itself was bad."

No cooldowns = terrible tank. The only two you had (Foresight, Inner Beast) were worthless due to one being a minor defensive ability and the other requiring you to lose stacks (+healing, you know, the *core* part of lacking defensive) and waiting on another two cooldowns (Berserk and Infuriate) to make it even worth using. The job was fine until you reached the massive gear gap that was Coil (70 to a 90 jump). Beyond Titan, and even then, bothering to pay attention would have noticed what every one else did.

Paladins will still have the smoother damage intake overall and still have more cooldowns. Warriors can now actually bother to use Inner Beast more as they won't be losing the healing benefit since it'll be baked into Defiance.

As far as fretting over Holmgang, you *do* realize it's basically Hallowed Ground with basically have duration and cooldown right?
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KojiroSoma wrote:
What was wrong with Warrior before? :/

They were incredibly strong, but now they've kind of become gods? I dont understand.

I thought the problem was that people didnt understand how to use the job, not that the job itself was bad. Now they're the kings of enmity, overlords of invincibility if HP indeed cannot drop under 1 HP, have 30% damage resistance on their skills too... while also having 25% more HP all during that.

Why? Why did they have to pull a Tanaka on Warrior. It was balanced, now it's unmatched...


Yes, a paper thin tank getting facesmashed all over in Coil was "balanced".

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"I thought the problem was that people didnt understand how to use the job, not that the job itself was bad."

No cooldowns = terrible tank. The only two you had (Foresight, Inner Beast) were worthless due to one being a minor defensive ability and the other requiring you to lose stacks (+healing, you know, the *core* part of lacking defensive) and waiting on another two cooldowns (Berserk and Infuriate) to make it even worth using. The job was fine until you reached the massive gear gap that was Coil (70 to a 90 jump). Beyond Titan, and even then, bothering to pay attention would have noticed what every one else did.

Paladins will still have the smoother damage intake overall and still have more cooldowns. Warriors can now actually bother to use Inner Beast more as they won't be losing the healing benefit since it'll be baked into Defiance.

As far as fretting over Holmgang, you *do* realize it's basically Hallowed Ground with basically have duration and cooldown right?

Coil was designed for EVERY tank to get face smashed. Warrior and Paladin alike, it's not a solid reason for this change.

Warrior may have taken more damage, but with a bigger HP pool and higher curing numbers. I think someone once came to the conclusion that the overal diffirence in damage taken was 10%. Certainly not -paper thin-

Completely forgetting that A. Warrior has a much higher damage output from it's abilities, B. Far more damaging AoE attacks it can spam, C. Could be played on top of that with more risk/reward by spending Wrath.

It needed a buff to compensate for the 10% diffirence in damage taken. Which simply making the 20% increased curing permanent on another ability, and taking the 6 second -20% damage reduction on a 12,5 recast (essentially 10% all the time) that Inner Beast now gives would have done. Equal playing field.

It did not need: Increased Enmity on everything on top of that, Invincible, another -30% damage taken ability, essentially a MASSIVE damage increase from being allowed to spend wrath while also circumventing the damage output reduction with Enchainment, less recast times, less TP use, Longer Duration buffs and essentially godmode.
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It's not Hallowed Ground at all, it's an "oh ****" button if you're close to death and 6 seconds really isnt a lot.

Take this scenario, tank needs to survive some devestating moves (here lets say snake turn 1 coil end of fight where snake has 6 stacks or more)

PLD: Uses Hallowed ground at full hp, 10 second where healer can chill and prepare for when it wears

WAR: Constantly taking demage, drops to 1 hp (only place where it is effective, will certainly be used before this point), healer have to keep cure bombing since the WAR stil takes dmg and will sit at 1 hp if the healer stops (ie, even though this skill is used, WAR stil takes dmg, just never dies).

It really isn't as incredible as it sounds if you think about it, and CERTAINLY not Hallowed ground.

Now I love both jobs and have both with relics so changes are welcome, just dont overhype it before really thinking in which scenarios you would use it.

What I really enjoy is the Defiance and Wrath changes though, makes some interesting combos available.
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Warrior may have taken more damage, but with a bigger HP pool and higher curing numbers. I think someone once came to the conclusion that the overal diffirence in damage taken was 10%. Certainly not -paper thin-


So, in a nutshell, you didn't tank anything worth a **** on Warrior and are trying to use heresay to prove a faulty point.

Gotcha.
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"We also believe that the strongest gear available at a given time should not be obtainable by all players. "

All I have to say about that is.. is not relic and relic +1 the best weapon in game? and who DOESNT ave that.. or wont get it eventually./ relic weapons kinda contradicts his statement
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"We also believe that the strongest gear available at a given time should not be obtainable by all players. "

All I have to say about that is.. is not relic and relic +1 the best weapon in game? and who DOESNT ave that.. or wont get it eventually./ relic weapons kinda contradicts his statement

My only relic weapon is a giant saw that looks like a pizza peel lol
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KojiroSoma wrote:
Warrior may have taken more damage, but with a bigger HP pool and higher curing numbers. I think someone once came to the conclusion that the overal diffirence in damage taken was 10%. Certainly not -paper thin-


So, in a nutshell, you didn't tank anything worth a **** on Warrior and are trying to use heresay to prove a faulty point.

Gotcha.

It is basic math.

But since you're too lazy, or most likely too stupid to apply basic pre-school Math, let the big bad Paladin do it for you again.

Effective HP

Warrior:
Defiance, +25% HP. -0% Damage Received.
HP*1.25/1.00= 125HP

Paladin:
Shield Oath, +0% HP, -20% Damage Received.
HP*1.00/0.8= 125HP

Equal. Nothing to ***** about yet for you Warriors.

Effective Healing

Warrior:
6250 HP, takes 6249 damage, takes 17,35 Cures to get back to full HP (Counting 360 HP for cures due to +20% recovered)

Paladin:
5000 HP takes (6249 * 0.8) 4999 damage, takes 16,66 Cures to get back to full HP (counting 300 HP for cures)

So effectively, Paladins have it 4,1% better than Warriors. When i said 10% i was being GENEROUS not to embarass Warriors who have been moaning about this for months and also you with your poor comment.

Warriors did NOT have anything worth complaining about.
Warriors do not have anything worth complaining about.
And after 2.1 hits, Warriors will not ever be allowed to complain about anything ever again.

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 6:10pm by KojiroSoma
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KojiroSoma wrote:
Viertel wrote:
KojiroSoma wrote:
Warrior may have taken more damage, but with a bigger HP pool and higher curing numbers. I think someone once came to the conclusion that the overal diffirence in damage taken was 10%. Certainly not -paper thin-


So, in a nutshell, you didn't tank anything worth a **** on Warrior and are trying to use heresay to prove a faulty point.

Gotcha.

It is basic math.

But since you're too lazy, or most likely too stupid to apply basic pre-school Math, let the big bad Paladin do it for you again.

Effective HP

Warrior:
Defiance, +25% HP. -0% Damage Received.
HP*1.25/1.00= 125HP

Paladin:
Shield Oath, +0% HP, -20% Damage Received.
HP*1.00/0.8= 125HP

Equal. Nothing to ***** about yet for you Warriors.

Effective Healing

Warrior:
6250 HP, takes 6249 damage, takes 17,35 Cures to get back to full HP (Counting 360 HP for cures due to +20% recovered)

Paladin:
5000 HP takes (6249 * 0.8) 4999 damage, takes 16,66 Cures to get back to full HP (counting 300 HP for cures)

So effectively, Paladins have it 4,1% better than Warriors. When i said 10% i was being GENEROUS not to embarass Warriors who have been moaning about this for months and also you with your poor comment.

Warriors did NOT have anything worth complaining about.
Warriors do not have anything worth complaining about.
And after 2.1 hits, Warriors will not ever be allowed to complain about anything ever again.

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 6:10pm by KojiroSoma


although your math is correct, your not taking into consideration any of the paladin buffs to mitigate damage even further. the math to calculate those buffs become much more complex, and when a paladin starts doing cooldown rotations on buffs the disparity becomes much larger than 4%.
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"We also believe that the strongest gear available at a given time should not be obtainable by all players. "

All I have to say about that is.. is not relic and relic +1 the best weapon in game? and who DOESNT ave that.. or wont get it eventually./ relic weapons kinda contradicts his statement


I don't have it yet. Then again, I'm not level 50 yet, and won't be for some time.

By the time I get around to getting level 50 and then getting a relic/relic+1 weapon, something else that is stronger will have come out for the hardcores to attain.

Basically, the casual players will always be 1-2 gear levels behind the most hardcore of the hardcore, and there is nothing wrong with that.
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"We also believe that the strongest gear available at a given time should not be obtainable by all players. "

All I have to say about that is.. is not relic and relic +1 the best weapon in game? and who DOESNT ave that.. or wont get it eventually./ relic weapons kinda contradicts his statement


I don't have it yet. Then again, I'm not level 50 yet, and won't be for some time.

By the time I get around to getting level 50 and then getting a relic/relic+1 weapon, something else that is stronger will have come out for the hardcores to attain.

Basically, the casual players will always be 1-2 gear levels behind the most hardcore of the hardcore, and there is nothing wrong with that.



i just got my relic in the last 3 days.. and ive had the game since august 27th... so i wouldnt exactly call myself hardcore lol

also according to yoshi relic will always be the "best" theyll just constantly upgraded it as things get tougher
#21 Nov 20 2013 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent
KojiroSoma wrote:
Viertel wrote:
KojiroSoma wrote:
Warrior may have taken more damage, but with a bigger HP pool and higher curing numbers. I think someone once came to the conclusion that the overal diffirence in damage taken was 10%. Certainly not -paper thin-


So, in a nutshell, you didn't tank anything worth a **** on Warrior and are trying to use heresay to prove a faulty point.

Gotcha.

It is basic math.

But since you're too lazy, or most likely too stupid to apply basic pre-school Math, let the big bad Paladin do it for you again.

Effective HP

Warrior:
Defiance, +25% HP. -0% Damage Received.
HP*1.25/1.00= 125HP

Paladin:
Shield Oath, +0% HP, -20% Damage Received.
HP*1.00/0.8= 125HP

Equal. Nothing to ***** about yet for you Warriors.

Effective Healing

Warrior:
6250 HP, takes 6249 damage, takes 17,35 Cures to get back to full HP (Counting 360 HP for cures due to +20% recovered)

Paladin:
5000 HP takes (6249 * 0.8) 4999 damage, takes 16,66 Cures to get back to full HP (counting 300 HP for cures)

So effectively, Paladins have it 4,1% better than Warriors. When i said 10% i was being GENEROUS not to embarass Warriors who have been moaning about this for months and also you with your poor comment.

Warriors did NOT have anything worth complaining about.
Warriors do not have anything worth complaining about.
And after 2.1 hits, Warriors will not ever be allowed to complain about anything ever again.

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 6:10pm by KojiroSoma


Have you personally taken Warrior into Coil and beyond? Or healed for one? In theory my mnk should hit like a truck, but applied in events is a whole other game.
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i just got my relic in the last 3 days.. and ive had the game since august 27th... so i wouldnt exactly call myself hardcore lol

also according to yoshi relic will always be the "best" theyll just constantly upgraded it as things get tougher


You're not casual, either then. The particular character I'm playing on is a September creation, but I'm also only putting in a few days each week. I'm in no rush to get to endgame. I just want to relax and fish.

As for upgrades, there will undoubtedly be relic +2, relic+3, etc. And each one will get progressively harder to achieve.
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KojiroSoma wrote:
Viertel wrote:
KojiroSoma wrote:
Warrior may have taken more damage, but with a bigger HP pool and higher curing numbers. I think someone once came to the conclusion that the overal diffirence in damage taken was 10%. Certainly not -paper thin-


So, in a nutshell, you didn't tank anything worth a **** on Warrior and are trying to use heresay to prove a faulty point.

Gotcha.

It is basic math.

But since you're too lazy, or most likely too stupid to apply basic pre-school Math, let the big bad Paladin do it for you again.

Effective HP

Warrior:
Defiance, +25% HP. -0% Damage Received.
HP*1.25/1.00= 125HP

Paladin:
Shield Oath, +0% HP, -20% Damage Received.
HP*1.00/0.8= 125HP

Equal. Nothing to ***** about yet for you Warriors.

Effective Healing

Warrior:
6250 HP, takes 6249 damage, takes 17,35 Cures to get back to full HP (Counting 360 HP for cures due to +20% recovered)

Paladin:
5000 HP takes (6249 * 0.8) 4999 damage, takes 16,66 Cures to get back to full HP (counting 300 HP for cures)

So effectively, Paladins have it 4,1% better than Warriors. When i said 10% i was being GENEROUS not to embarass Warriors who have been moaning about this for months and also you with your poor comment.

Warriors did NOT have anything worth complaining about.
Warriors do not have anything worth complaining about.
And after 2.1 hits, Warriors will not ever be allowed to complain about anything ever again.

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 6:10pm by KojiroSoma


although your math is correct, your not taking into consideration any of the paladin buffs to mitigate damage even further. the math to calculate those buffs become much more complex, and when a paladin starts doing cooldown rotations on buffs the disparity becomes much larger than 4%.


Ya it comes down to the cooldowns, see: http://ventusinvictus.blogspot.com/2013/09/endgame-paladin-guide.html

To quote: "The Big Problem, Cooldowns: As we went over previously Foresight is pretty ****, Bloodbath is better on Warrior than Paladin but still not a good "oh ****" button. Warriors have The Thrill of Battle (+20% HP, 10s) and Infuriate (Max Wrath Stacks). Infuriate essentially lets you use a Wrath-Spender (usually Inner Beast for a nice heal) and instantly have your +15% healing buff again. Match these up against Paladin (Rampart, Convalescence, Sentinel, Bulwark, Foresight, Tempured Will, lolAwareness, and of course Hallowed Ground) and Warrior is just going to be taking pretty much full damage all the time where a Paladin can Rotate Cooldowns for a good couple minutes of solid mitigation boosting."

Also I might add, a PLD can also have running Foresight, Fracture, Bloodbath AND Stoneskin put this all together in coil that's a hefty tank with a good few minutes of def CDs up
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#25 Nov 20 2013 at 1:10 PM Rating: Default
I'm normally not one to prematurely react (haha), but these WAR buffs are insane. I'm telling you now if you look at the numbers it is way better than PLD. The extra 10% damage reduction alone combined with better healing efficiency is enough, and more than compensates for abilities that have a 90-120 second cooldown. That's a long time.
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KojiroSoma wrote:
Viertel wrote:
KojiroSoma wrote:
Warrior may have taken more damage, but with a bigger HP pool and higher curing numbers. I think someone once came to the conclusion that the overal diffirence in damage taken was 10%. Certainly not -paper thin-


So, in a nutshell, you didn't tank anything worth a **** on Warrior and are trying to use heresay to prove a faulty point.

Gotcha.

It is basic math.

But since you're too lazy, or most likely too stupid to apply basic pre-school Math, let the big bad Paladin do it for you again.

Effective HP

Warrior:
Defiance, +25% HP. -0% Damage Received.
HP*1.25/1.00= 125HP

Paladin:
Shield Oath, +0% HP, -20% Damage Received.
HP*1.00/0.8= 125HP

Equal. Nothing to ***** about yet for you Warriors.

Effective Healing

Warrior:
6250 HP, takes 6249 damage, takes 17,35 Cures to get back to full HP (Counting 360 HP for cures due to +20% recovered)

Paladin:
5000 HP takes (6249 * 0.8) 4999 damage, takes 16,66 Cures to get back to full HP (counting 300 HP for cures)

So effectively, Paladins have it 4,1% better than Warriors. When i said 10% i was being GENEROUS not to embarass Warriors who have been moaning about this for months and also you with your poor comment.

Warriors did NOT have anything worth complaining about.
Warriors do not have anything worth complaining about.
And after 2.1 hits, Warriors will not ever be allowed to complain about anything ever again.

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 6:10pm by KojiroSoma



Too busy trying to be rude that you forgot to consider the entire picture of Warrior and Paladin instead of just this small segment of a bigger equation? :/ BE NICE! lol
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I think I may level my Marauder now... WAR is becoming like WAR was in FFXI after they increased 2H damage, and all of a sudden lolGaxe became loldualaxes.
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I think I may level my Marauder now... WAR is becoming like WAR was in FFXI after they increased 2H damage, and all of a sudden lolGaxe became loldualaxes.


Wait a sec... lolgaxe finally had the operation?!?! Wonder what he'll be like post-op.
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Just a side observation after reading the patch notes.
Remembering the olden days of FFXI and SE's patch notes saying only "This or that has been adjusted..." I think my brain has imploded. All this info fountaining out of the lead dev is overwhelming and I think I'm Smiley: drunk on it all.
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I think they finally learned that deliberately being vague and mysterious about planned changes doesn't make anyone happy.
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I think I may level my Marauder now... WAR is becoming like WAR was in FFXI after they increased 2H damage, and all of a sudden lolGaxe became loldualaxes.


Wait a sec... lolgaxe finally had the operation?!?! Wonder what he'll be like post-op.


I remember when lolgaxe first started posting on these forums, when Great Axe really was "lol", and Zam was "Allakhazam"... that's how far back I go.... too bad I couldn't pull up my old account when I tried to when 2.0 came out, I had to start over as Hairspray... of course I didn't realize I was going to name my character Meat Mithkabob at the time or I would have gone with that handle.


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Oh come on! It was always fun when they'd release an ability or item without saying much about it. People would then speculate that it MUST have a hidden effect. "Why do you think it has a hidden effect?". "Well what the **** would be the point of releasing something like this this far in the games lifespan, with the difficulty needed to obtain said item!?" Because they can and Tanaka is the greatest troll ever. Well...Yoshinori Ono from Capcom is up there too, not sure which is worse.
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What are tokens and where do they come from?


No one knows what they mean by tokens?
I read something on this before.

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I think they finally learned that deliberately being vague and mysterious about planned changes doesn't make anyone happy.


Oh come on! It was always fun when they'd release an ability or item without saying much about it. People would then speculate that it MUST have a hidden effect. "Why do you think it has a hidden effect?". "Well what the **** would be the point of releasing something like this this far in the games lifespan, with the difficulty needed to obtain said item!?" Because they can and Tanaka is the greatest troll ever. Well...Yoshinori Ono from Capcom is up there too, not sure which is worse.


Took em eight years to finally admit how Treasure Hunter on THF worked.

All the conspiracy theories... all the wild guesses and speculation about the THF needing the killshot, etc - and all a THF had to do was touch it once to apply the effect and stay alive to keep the effect on.

Then they further trolled THF by making successive hits increase the chance of increasing the TH% beyond the maximum TH6 permitted by gear. So it was no longer good enough just to "tag" it and run to safety. Oh no. The THF had to be constantly hitting it for the best results.
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Math looks fine Kojiro, but you're not including the fact PLDs have a shield. Coupled with the CDs previously mentioned it's the whole package that made WAR so inferior, not just "naked xxx sucks compared to naked yyy". And it is easily seen in any fight worth a **** that a WAR just can't keep up (or mages run OOM).
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Because they can and Tanaka is the greatest troll ever. Well...Yoshinori Ono from Capcom is up there too, not sure which is worse.

Miyazaki is up there too. He had everyone going for a year on choosing the pendant in Dark Souls as your starting gift. He even admitted to it being a prank. X(

Dark Souls pendant mystery resolved.

On topic: this transparency from Yoshi-P is amazing. I wasn't expecting this kind of detailed info for a while; WAR topics everywhere are going to be buzzing with activity (which I love to read about).

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 2:27pm by fatpolomanjr
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On topic: this transparency from Yoshi-P is amazing. I wasn't expecting this kind of detailed info for a while; WAR topics everywhere are going to be buzzing with activity (which I love to read about).


I... don't find it surprising anymore.

In fact, Yoshi's been this way from the beginning.

Periodically hot topics pick up or criticisms pile up, or there's some sort of major patch on the way, and Yoshi takes the time to give the players a breakdown.

It seems like we go through this cycle every single time where he's quiet a while working on things, and people are like "Why is SE not talking to us! They never talk to us! Why isn't my most important concern being personally addressed right naoz!" And then Yoshi comes out, speaks common sense, drops the proverbial mic, and everyones like 'ooo, ahh, so fresh! So unheard of transparency and communication!'

Yet for me, this is typical Yoshi. I love it, I appreciate it. I look forward to it.

Edit: Just to clarify, I imply this all as a positive. The man cares more for this game than most other people. It's his baby and he's more than willing to talk about it, and how it develops in detail.

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 6:21pm by Hyrist
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I... don't find it surprising anymore.

It doesn't have to be surprising for it to still be amazing.

Hyrist wrote:
Yet for me, this is typical Yoshi. I love it, I appreciate it. I look forward to it.

And this, for me, is what makes me feel amazed.
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This is what I got excited about. There better be designs for chainmail bikinis and leopard skin loin cloths.


Assless leopard chaps on a female Roegadyn?....Awwwww yeah.
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#42 Nov 20 2013 at 7:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looking ahead to Patch 2.2, crafters will be able to alter gear designs using a “template” system (official name TBD), giving them yet another role in creating desirable gear.


This is what I got excited about. There better be designs for chainmail bikinis and leopard skin loin cloths.


Assless leopard chaps on a female Roegadyn?....Awwwww yeah.


I like the way you think sir Smiley: nod
#43 Nov 20 2013 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
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Montsegurnephcreep wrote:

Assless leopard chaps on a female Roegadyn?....Awwwww yeah.

Awwww yeah.

Don't lie, you know you were thinking it! (I know I was.)

Edited, Nov 20th 2013 6:01pm by fatpolomanjr
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Nice to see some more options for getting tomes. Unfortunately, what will happen is people will find the path of least resistance. Once they find the easiest thing to run, they'll just do that over and over. Then complain they are board.
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Looking ahead to Patch 2.2, crafters will be able to alter gear designs using a “template” system (official name TBD), giving them yet another role in creating desirable gear.


This is what I got excited about. There better be designs for chainmail bikinis and leopard skin loin cloths.
I'm thinking this is how SE will implement vanity slots/transmogrification/appearance slots into the game.
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#46 Nov 21 2013 at 3:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kind of what I took from it, too.
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Just a side observation after reading the patch notes.
Remembering the olden days of FFXI and SE's patch notes saying only "This or that has been adjusted..." I think my brain has imploded. All this info fountaining out of the lead dev is overwhelming and I think I'm Smiley: drunk on it all.


Isn't it wonderful? I love this guy's dedication and amount of detail he provides! It's the difference between night and day.

FF11's patch notes wrote:
We changed some stuff


FF14's patch notes wrote:
Here's an essay on everything we changed, our observations right now, our concerns, and our future goals.
#48 Nov 21 2013 at 6:14 AM Rating: Excellent
deleted. Duplicated Joke I did not see till it was too late.

error 8008. Failed internet joke.


Edited, Nov 21st 2013 4:16am by DownWithTheSickness
#49 Nov 21 2013 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm normally not one to prematurely react (haha), but these WAR buffs are insane. I'm telling you now if you look at the numbers it is way better than PLD. The extra 10% damage reduction alone combined with better healing efficiency is enough, and more than compensates for abilities that have a 90-120 second cooldown. That's a long time.


And as someone that's tanked for well over a decade in MMOs I can freely tell you they're not. They may be going overboard on the +threat on Overpower, however considering the change to Steel Cyclone it seems they want you to weave that in so it may be part of it.

Secondly, that extra 10% flat mitigation they're going to get? That's what basically finally could equalize them with Paladins in terms of DoT mitigation when you're tanking something where every bit counts, like double Dreadnaughts in Turn 4. They get the extra 10%, Paladin gets the shield procs. Mathematically one may be better in a slight advantage theoretically, but it's real world applied application that matter and I'm honestly still leaning towards shield eeking out (RNG is still a factor afterall).

And no, nothing, absolutely, nothing beats cooldowns and it's why these changes were made in the first place.
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Crafting and High-Level Items



That said, it is impossible to craft higher-item-level gear, or gear that is completely equal in power to the highest-item-level gear available.



And that's the reason I plain avoid crafting in just about all modern mmos, including FFXIV.
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Crafting and High-Level Items



That said, it is impossible to craft higher-item-level gear, or gear that is completely equal in power to the highest-item-level gear available.



And that's the reason I plain avoid crafting in just about all modern mmos, including FFXIV.


FF11 actually did this pretty well. A haubergeon +1 was an amazing item that was craftable. The materials were rare and it was hard to make. If they used this system i dont see a problem making crafted powerfull gear. 11's problem was oversaturation of gear because once An item was in the economy it stayed there. Arr does a good job to fix that problem. I see a win-win if they mix these systems together.
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