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#1 Dec 03 2013 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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Hi everyone! Well...I took a week off because of burnout in the game, and now I've decided to go on to a different game. I had a lot of fun at first in FFXIV, but for me, it began to feel too much like work. I really got tired of running the same dungeons over and over for Tomes. I'm not really that great at video games to begin with, although I've played them for years. The other problem I had with this game was that for an average player, endgame was just way too hard for me as a healer. I never made it past Titan HM even after about a month of trying it maybe 6-8 times a week in PUGS. Invariably someone would mess up and the party would disband. I decided that this just wasn't for me. I don't like games where if one person makes a mistake in a group of eight, it's basically a wipe. The thing that most turned me off about the game though was the plethora of elitist players I met in PUGS. Okay...I get it....you're really good at MMO's in general. You have the fast twitch reflexes of a Pro tennis player. You know exactly what every job should be doing at every second of every dungeon, and you've been that way in the last 5 MMO's you played. Kudos to you that are blessed with such great video gaming skills through tons of practice and hours of studying youtube videos. I'm kind of in awe of such players until they open their mouths and berate some noob for missing a stun on his first time at a particular dungeon. I work 50 hours a week, have a family, and just don't have the time to practice like that. I was a long time member of FFXI and no matter what Linkshell I seemed to join, there was a camaraderie and usually 2 or 3 guys shouting out what to do to first timers in Dynamis or SKY and it was fun as ****. I joined 5 linkshells in FFXIV in 2 months and basically none of them had any kind of cohesiveness to learn together, despite several of them having over 100 members. The skilled members only wanted to do Coil and the rest were stuck on Titan, crafting 24/7, or leveling alts. I don't know...it just lost the fun factor for me. I mean running WP ten times a week really gets old so you can get halfway to a decent piece of gear. I had 4100HP/4500MP as a WHM when I quit and I really didn't feel much different than when I was 3700/3900, despite having multiple pieces of 90 gear. I know some of you love this game and that's great. Hopefully, it can endure and make it worth your time. As for me, I'll keep trying each new MMO that comes out until I find the right fit. Best of luck to all of you! Gypsy Healer.
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Good luck.

There are a lot of jerks on this game for whatever reason. I'm not sure if they come from WoW, LoL, or some other community, but many on ARR thinks it's "cool and badass" to berate someone for making a mistake.

They're not necessarily better than you at MMORPGs, by the way. It's just that ARR draws most of its influence from WoW, so in a sense people have basically been playing this game for a decade. I don't mean to say that ARR is a clone, but if you're experienced in certain other MMORPGs, you'll pretty much know exactly how to handle everything in ARR including a lot of boss fight mechanics which can be seen in other MMORPG bosses.

(I'm also taking a break due to the reasons that you mentioned... and the current available content got boring)

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#3 Dec 03 2013 at 2:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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You will run into a lot of douchebags in the general population of any MMO (and in life). The best thing to do is find a solid Guild/FC with a cool group of players that'll help you out. As for the constant wipes, odds are you aren't the sole person responsible for that. The game is fairly new and there are a lot of people still learning the ropes.
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Basically, OP is like, "Yeah I know that 2.1 comes out in 14 days and will solve my endless WP running boredom problems, lower the difficulty on HM Titan, give you more options for gathering tomes, give you a ton of new stuff to do, and build comraderie in FCs by giving them a house by which to gather, discuss, craft, and strategize. But eh, I'm gonna go. Later."

Using just your second post on this website to say that you are leaving when we really never knew you to begin with kinda screams troll flame. Why fabricate some negative hype over your dissatisfaction when it is obvious that you haven't created any positive hype around your good experiences? Listen, you've got a patch coming out in two weeks that will address most if not all of your posted issues. And if your FC ain't talking and no one is helping, find a new FC. There are nice people out there.

If you cant get pumped and prepare for the upcoming coolness, then maybe the game was never for you.

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#5 Dec 03 2013 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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Good luck Holmes. I did make it through the wall of text and get where you are coming from. I've been playing since early-access and still don't have a character at 50 (bearing that I started 4 different characters on two different servers). I think what you are touching on is the gaming community's insatiable need to complete content ASAP. I for one am attempting to not adhere to this trend.

SIDE NOTE: Additionally, RL circumstances and and a certain AAA franchise game might have been released as well…Contributing to me 'falling behind'. That being said, I have a great FC and I know that these Mates will help me when necessary when I get to the appropriate content.

The game is still so young and we will have tons of time, and various avenues, to reach the 'end-game' rewards which we all wish to acquire. So ya boss, take a break, but, don't let it totally turn you off. Let the community, economy, and game evolve as 'we' all expect it will. I still think it will be a great MMO experience for years to come so perhaps don't let the 'baby phase' of the game prevent you from coming back one day.

Good luck with further adventures!!!

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#6 Dec 03 2013 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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The other problem I had with this game was that for an average player, endgame was just way too hard for me as a healer. I never made it past Titan HM even after about a month of trying it maybe 6-8 times a week in PUGS.
STOP DOING PUGS


I was a long time member of FFXI and no matter what Linkshell I seemed to join, there was a camaraderie and usually 2 or 3 guys shouting out what to do to first timers in Dynamis or SKY and it was fun as ****. I joined 5 linkshells in FFXIV in 2 months and basically none of them had any kind of cohesiveness to learn together, despite several of them having over 100 members.
Do you know that a Linkshell is only a small chatroom?? Why didn't you join a Free Company with a dedicated core group of players, and use the LS system for small numbers of close friends? As I beleive it was intended that way (FC is a Guild ... LS is a glorifited buddy chat)

As for me, I'll keep trying each new MMO that comes out until I find the right fit. Best of luck to all of you! Gypsy Healer.
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#7 Dec 03 2013 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Perhaps it is just because I'm over tired but I found this as one big whine over not being good at the game and really just not liking MMO's. I mean you complain about difficult content and having redo events over and over for rewards...well welcome to MMO's...is this not true of them all? If we just give you the stuff without any work the game would end and then what is left?

Seriously I'm not trying to be a jerk but you strike me as someone who would be better suited to playing offline games, there if you ***** up nobody knows but your cat. You imply that you arent;y willing to do things like watch youtubes or practice dungeons to be better at them but you expect everyone to still cuddle you through the content. Sorry that isn't how life works. Get used to it. You said you work 50 hours a week and have a family...while that's great perhaps you should take the inititive and try to creat a LS on your server of similiar people? Then instead of crybotting all over the internet you could dungeon with people who are in similiar positions to you...seriously you have a family so you know nothing worthwhile comes easy so why do you expect FFXIV to be different? Like I said earlier maybe you get more rewarding time in say Skyrim or Dragon Age where you can still explore and craft but alone.

Also you have been in 5 LS's in 2 months...no wonder its hard for you to establish a base of people...it takes time to get to know people especially online...did you expect to join a LS and have 12 new besties right away? Again another example of you not willing to work at it...I've been in the same FC and LS since launch and slowly over time I'm becoming closer to the peeps in there...but it takes time.

As for Coil goes...I'm in the same boat my FC is small and generally only a handful of people get to Coil and I'm left out weekly because I'm a drg main and they take a Monk regularly (my work shift conflicts with the time) ...I dont come on here crying about it. I'm trying to organize another static in my LS/FC...which is hard since mine has 30 people total. Should be easy in a 100 man one. BUT if you haven't beaten Titan you have no reason to worry about Coil you aren't ready or eligible to join anyway.

Again like I said perhaps I'm just bitter today cause of no sleep (new puppy life over) but why do people post rant quits on here...simple fact is nobody cares that your quitting truthfully. It probably took 10-15 mins to write that wall of text when you could have used that time to watch a titan HM guide video and perhaps beat that content...oh sorry I forgot you don't want to put effort in.


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Good luck, if you do decide to come back (Happens a lot more then you'd think in MMO's) make sure you get into a Free Company that is doing end-game content so you can get past things like Titan a lot easier and not feel so burnt-out. Also, after about 10 years of MMO playing the best piece of advice I can give is to find a game/life balance. Don't play 24/7, first of all it will cost you a lot of relationships IRL, and possibly your job, learn to take it easier and you'll probably enjoy it longer.
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#9 Dec 03 2013 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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LucasNox wrote:
Good luck.

There are a lot of jerks on this game for whatever reason. I'm not sure if they come from WoW, LoL, or some other community, but many on ARR thinks it's "cool and badass" to berate someone for making a mistake.

They're not necessarily better than you at MMORPGs, by the way. It's just that ARR draws most of its influence from WoW, so in a sense people have basically been playing this game for a decade. I don't mean to say that ARR is a clone, but if you're experienced in certain other MMORPGs, you'll pretty much know exactly how to handle everything in ARR including a lot of boss fight mechanics which can be seen in other MMORPG bosses.

(I'm also taking a break due to the reasons that you mentioned... and the current available content got boring)

Edited, Dec 3rd 2013 3:32pm by LucasNox



There isn't some mystical reason that this game is filled with jerks... The reason is simple. You make a game that promotes short-term partying for 20 -50 minutes with absolutely no accountability for what you say, because you know you'll never see those players again... and what do you get? The animalistic tendencies of human nature i.e. name-calling etc.
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Valkayree wrote:


Using just your second post on this website to say that you are leaving when we really never knew you to begin with kinda screams troll flame. Why fabricate some negative hype over your dissatisfaction when it is obvious that you haven't created any positive hype around your good experiences? Listen, you've got a patch coming out in two weeks that will address most if not all of your posted issues. And if your FC ain't talking and no one is helping, find a new FC. There are nice people out there.


Using your 1300th hundred post to accuse someone of "troll-flaming" because they voice a legitimate concern kinda screams dbag.

I also love how you categorize his dissatisfaction as a fabrication, as if you somehow know he is overstating his personal experience. It sort of makes me think you're the kind of player he is referencing.

Edited, Dec 3rd 2013 5:19pm by Parathyroid
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Parathyroid wrote:
Valkayree wrote:


Using just your second post on this website to say that you are leaving when we really never knew you to begin with kinda screams troll flame. Why fabricate some negative hype over your dissatisfaction when it is obvious that you haven't created any positive hype around your good experiences? Listen, you've got a patch coming out in two weeks that will address most if not all of your posted issues. And if your FC ain't talking and no one is helping, find a new FC. There are nice people out there.


Using your 1300th hundred post to accuse someone of "troll-flaming" because they voice a legitimate concern kinda screams dbag.

I also love how you categorize his dissatisfaction as a fabrication, as if you somehow know he is overstating his personal experience. It sort of makes me think you're the kind of player he is referencing.

Edited, Dec 3rd 2013 5:19pm by Parathyroid



His major dissatisfaction seems to be that he wants the same level of reward for less work/skill as people who put in more effort. I do not see that as valid at all.

In no way am I saying people should berate anyone in DF but nobody forces someone to DF you can always make parties with people you know.

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I would say, unless your subscription is about up and you really don't have any hope for the game, you should take a break and come back for the Dec 17th patch to see if that fixes things for you. It introduces new things to do, like PvP, and softens the current gear grind so you can catch up.
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A good way to get past HM Titan was join a shout group. They are more "try and try again" until they get it.

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Stop doing PUG, in my opinion these are terrible. Lots of people hounding your gears, and out of dozens of PUGS I have done maybe 3 made it past Titan HM. On the other hand, out of my 7 Relic 6 were done in DF, with the last one MNK relic I won Titan HM with basically 1 healer and 3 DPS after heart. You would be pretty amazed at the quality of DF against PUG.
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Ok, someone has to ask the question, so here it goes...


Can I have your stuff?


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A part of me envies those who are burnt out on FFXIV already. I'm burned out on real life stuff right now and haven't even had a chance to log in a few weeks. Still stuck at 41. I"m hoping for a chance to attempt to burn myself out in XIV over the next few weeks, hopefully.

My fear is that I'll fall behind so far back that I'll burn myself out playing catch up.
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#18 Dec 04 2013 at 7:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Parathyroid wrote:
Valkayree wrote:


Using just your second post on this website to say that you are leaving when we really never knew you to begin with kinda screams troll flame. Why fabricate some negative hype over your dissatisfaction when it is obvious that you haven't created any positive hype around your good experiences? Listen, you've got a patch coming out in two weeks that will address most if not all of your posted issues. And if your FC ain't talking and no one is helping, find a new FC. There are nice people out there.


Using your 1300th hundred post to accuse someone of "troll-flaming" because they voice a legitimate concern kinda screams dbag.

I also love how you categorize his dissatisfaction as a fabrication, as if you somehow know he is overstating his personal experience. It sort of makes me think you're the kind of player he is referencing.

Edited, Dec 3rd 2013 5:19pm by Parathyroid


As blunt as Valk was, his post is still legitimate.

We have a huge content patch coming up here in 2 weeks or so that will add more variety than just WP runs, housing options, PVP, job adjustments, solo quests and treasure hunting, an endgame dungeon that isn't as difficult as coil, upgrades to mythology cap, etc...

The OP simply ignores all this which really ****** me off, actually. The game is supposedly boring yet he hasn't experienced even a third of its content because he's stuck in PUG Titan runs that never work out for anyone? OK then...

He complains about these bad PUG Titan groups and all the elitist players found within. You know, I'm inclined to agree. This morning, I did DF Titan around 4-5 times, DF Garuda 2 times, etc.

[storytime]In one of those Titan runs I was on my BLM. We had wiped a few times but were still willing to continue. We start and I end up pulling threat accidentally (quelling wasn't up). PLD doesn't provoke. Neither WHM heals me. First thing I hear? Bunch of, "Wow what a sh*tty BLM; learn to watch your aggro." and so on and so forth. I just simply stated that quelling wasn't up and that raging over a mistake like that when they had made several themselves was petty.

Eventually they gave up because they were convinced that I was a bad BLM. So I left and queued as my SCH. Guess who I ended up with? The WHM who was bad mouthing me the entire time in the other run. But guess what happens this time? We actually down it making it my 2nd DF win. Guess who screwed up the most? The WHM. I solo healed it for the most part. I was humble and he was apologetic at least but really doesn't excuse his behavior.

Then I did a JP region group. Everyone in that group was extremely positive. One of the WHMs was pretty bad and would get landslided off many times. I told them that it was perhaps impossible due to the healer but the PLD told me, in Japanese, that you'd never gain experience unless you keep at it. I told him I understand and apologized for my rudeness. We kept trying but didn't really improve much. The PLD had to leave but before he did, he thanked us all (everyone said お疲れ様でしたor PTありがとう) and then encouraged the WHM to keep trying and not give up. I found this such a refreshing change from the normal Titan runs I'm in.
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Point is: DF is a really bad idea when it comes to Titan. Don't do it. Also, if you are looking for nicer players, I would highly recommend queuing in the JP region only.

Unfortunately, you picked the one role that is a little difficult to play on Titan. Shouldn't you embrace this and accept the challenge, becoming a better player in the end instead of giving up? After doing this for one month, you have probably picked up some useful bits of information and learned a lot more about your class.

Also, Parathyroid, I highly doubt Valk falls into the category the OP was referencing. He has posted multiple times on this forums, contributing to threads, adding to the collective knowledge of both crafters and black mages, and is generally highly regarded by many players on Ultros (from what I've gathered from posts). The OP has no such background because...this is his second post. If he/she was having issues like this, one would expect a post about it sooner asking for advice...yet I do not see such a thread.

Your response is just as petty.



OP: I wish you luck. I understand that this game isn't for everyone. Playing healer can be extremely frustrating.

I feel that if you had posted your concerns here and asked for help, the ZAM community would have been more than willing to offer up advice as we have done thus far and you wouldn't be as frustrated as you are now. You speak of great challenge but would you really feel rewarded for doing something that was easy? What would happen if you got your relic quest done and your relic weapon? Wouldn't you feel immense gratification because you accomplished this really difficult task instead of having it handed to you?

Maybe if healer was stressful, attempt to play another role as well. Look for FCs on your server forums on the official forums. Plenty of social/very helpful FCs out there: you just need to look a little.

Alas, we can no longer help you as you have already made your decision and can only wish you the best in whatever you decide to do in the future.

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 1:02pm by HitomeOfBismarck
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To many people rush to the end, and for what reason? Personally this time around I've taken my time, i have 2 level 45s in DOW and DOM. But haven't hit 50 yet. Botany is at 50 cause I actually enjoyed it before the patch. Now I'm working on crafting, last night I finished getting all my classes to 15 for the first set of cross class skills. Normally I'd do what a lot of people have done, rush to end and then spend every moment running the same dungeons over and over to get the "temporary" best gear.

Ok so yea I'm playing through the story with my wife and having to find time for 2 of us with our work schedules and hunting season lately hasn't been easy, so thats why I'm not really 50, but I feel I've been enjoying the game more.

To OP, maybe just take a break. Come back for 2.1, thats still almost a 2 week break or try some of the other classes. Take some time to enjoy the other aspects of the game instead of just

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Parathyroid wrote:
Valkayree wrote:


Using just your second post on this website to say that you are leaving when we really never knew you to begin with kinda screams troll flame. Why fabricate some negative hype over your dissatisfaction when it is obvious that you haven't created any positive hype around your good experiences? Listen, you've got a patch coming out in two weeks that will address most if not all of your posted issues. And if your FC ain't talking and no one is helping, find a new FC. There are nice people out there.


Using your 1300th hundred post to accuse someone of "troll-flaming" because they voice a legitimate concern kinda screams dbag.

I also love how you categorize his dissatisfaction as a fabrication, as if you somehow know he is overstating his personal experience. It sort of makes me think you're the kind of player he is referencing.

Edited, Dec 3rd 2013 5:19pm by Parathyroid


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I used the word in the context of #1, not #3. His experience is valid, I just don't want to hear about it. Come here posting negative crap on your second post, that's troll flame.

Regarding me and my player type, well... Last night I ran a garuda with a df pug to help a friend of a friend a barely knew, but seemed like a nice person. It was really bad and we wiped several times, but I popped some 2.5k food, stuck in there, and we made it through. So yeah, I'm a jerk Smiley: oyvey

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#22 Dec 04 2013 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for all your comments. I wasn't trying to troll, just kind of using this as a coda for the time I spent here. I did watch the Youtube videos by the way for Titan and actually I was better than many of the other WHMs...we just ended wiping because it seemed as if someone (including myself at times) would ***** up and the party would just disband. As for the post about whining in general and wanting content handed to me, that is not the case. I'm just stating that as an average player, I found the game too hard for me in Titan HM and got tired of doing it over and over again...I mean come on...I played FFXI for years doing SKY, SEA, etc. constantly and as you know if you played it, that content was hard as **** until they changed everything to make it easier. WP was a walk in the park for me even though I'm not that great, but since I could not seem to advance past titan, it got really old doing it 8-10 times a week along with AK. I mistakenly said LS when I meant FC. I was in several FC's but they were mostly quiet affairs where everyone did their own thing so I never actually made any friends like I did in FFXI. It just seems that in the other MMO's I played...Ultima Online, WOW, Rift, Aion, FFXI, the LS's, guilds, etc. were quite friendly...even if you had only been there a few days. The FC's I was in here were very nice when you joined, then no one ever spoke after that except to say hello when you logged on or discuss irrelevant stuff. I think the thing that really did me in was the two last times I did Titan HM. the first time we had a player who announced he was new at this instance. The party immediately disbanded without explaining why to him. I stayed and told him to watch the youtube videos and explained that a lot of people have failed this so many times that they don't want to waste their time if they know you're new. He thanked me and said he would study videos to see what to do and I advised him NEVER to tell them if he was new so he could practive once or twice before being abandoned next time. The last Titan run was similar. I was getting pretty good at my role by then, knew where to stand, etc and a guy got knocked off the edge...a few people ******* at him, but we continued another round after wiping. On the next round, the other healer got killed by weight of the land as he was running out after AOE heal, and 2 of the players immediately berated him before they all left. Several players, including the whm stood around like WTF did everyone leave.? I once again explained the mentality that has been adopted in this game as "if the group ain't perfect, ***** them...I'm outta here" mentality. These last two runs are what turned me off to game more than anything. I just never met so many rude people in ANY game I ever played before. I can deal with griefing in PVP...(had it happen many times in other games), or people ******** about things...happens in every MMO. But in other MMO's it seemed like if someone got ******* at in a PUG or other group, there was always a player or two who tried to defend them or at least explain the protocol for an instance before leaving. I never saw that here, except for the times I did it and I did a LOT of instances (mostly level 90 gear). Sorry for my long windedness and best of luck to you all.
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Thanks for all your comments. I wasn't trying to troll, just kind of using this as a coda for the time I spent here. I did watch the Youtube videos by the way for Titan and actually I was better than many of the other WHMs...we just ended wiping because it seemed as if someone (including myself at times) would ***** up and the party would just disband. As for the post about whining in general and wanting content handed to me, that is not the case. I'm just stating that as an average player, I found the game too hard for me in Titan HM and got tired of doing it over and over again...I mean come on...I played FFXI for years doing SKY, SEA, etc. constantly and as you know if you played it, that content was hard as **** until they changed everything to make it easier. WP was a walk in the park for me even though I'm not that great, but since I could not seem to advance past titan, it got really old doing it 8-10 times a week along with AK. I mistakenly said LS when I meant FC. I was in several FC's but they were mostly quiet affairs where everyone did their own thing so I never actually made any friends like I did in FFXI. It just seems that in the other MMO's I played...Ultima Online, WOW, Rift, Aion, FFXI, the LS's, guilds, etc. were quite friendly...even if you had only been there a few days. The FC's I was in here were very nice when you joined, then no one ever spoke after that except to say hello when you logged on or discuss irrelevant stuff. I think the thing that really did me in was the two last times I did Titan HM. the first time we had a player who announced he was new at this instance. The party immediately disbanded without explaining why to him. I stayed and told him to watch the youtube videos and explained that a lot of people have failed this so many times that they don't want to waste their time if they know you're new. He thanked me and said he would study videos to see what to do and I advised him NEVER to tell them if he was new so he could practive once or twice before being abandoned next time. The last Titan run was similar. I was getting pretty good at my role by then, knew where to stand, etc and a guy got knocked off the edge...a few people ******* at him, but we continued another round after wiping. On the next round, the other healer got killed by weight of the land as he was running out after AOE heal, and 2 of the players immediately berated him before they all left. Several players, including the whm stood around like WTF did everyone leave.? I once again explained the mentality that has been adopted in this game as "if the group ain't perfect, ***** them...I'm outta here" mentality. These last two runs are what turned me off to game more than anything. I just never met so many rude people in ANY game I ever played before. I can deal with griefing in PVP...(had it happen many times in other games), or people ******** about things...happens in every MMO. But in other MMO's it seemed like if someone got ******* at in a PUG or other group, there was always a player or two who tried to defend them or at least explain the protocol for an instance before leaving. I never saw that here, except for the times I did it and I did a LOT of instances (mostly level 90 gear). Sorry for my long windedness and best of luck to you all.


That stuff happens unfortunately too often. It has become a situation where if you rushed in the beginning, the mountain was empty and everyone was learning so it was the "norm" to explain things. What those folks are now forgetting when they are levelling their alts is that there are some people out there who are on their first characters and are still learning. Everyone had to learn the map at one time. Duty finder matches are pretty much like dropping you off in the deep end with no floaties. You sink or swim. And most of the time it is not your fault. You just need a good FC and you will be fine.

Seriously though, wait a few weeks on this new patch. It should help you gear (tomes through treasure hunts and beastman quests, new missions that no one knows yet) without suffering the wrath of the buttheads.
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To many people rush to the end, and for what reason?


Because the developers of newer "standard" MMORPGs want us to, that's the only reason.
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So the game is limited to launch content, and the players are your typical MMO mix of casual-friendly, hardcore-friendly, hardcore-jerks, casual-jerks and people on drugs. Is that unusual?

Even after reading your entire post I'm still not sure if you are quitting, and telling everyone here, because of the game, or the community, or because MMO's just aren't your thing.

Whether or not you have fun playing FFXIV does depend a great deal on finding a great FC and good friends to play with. You have to be the kind of person that makes friends. There are a ton of ways to meet cool people in FFXIV (the DF is not one of them).

Topping the list, straight from the most common FFXI advice of all time:
1.) Make you own party.
- go to Revenant's Toll and /shout for "AK normal run for casual players LFM 1/4" This will totally work. I would join. Trust me, you are not alone wanting a low-stress environment to have fun in your free time.

2.) Ask around in your FC if anyone needs help. Go re-fight Hydra or Chimera for fun. Just join a /shout party. Why not? Help, help, help any chance you get, anyone that needs it.

3.) During any of these events (which have players from your server) take note of the players with positive attitudes. Tell them so. "That run was fun. Well done. Good times." Then send them a friend invite. The friends-list is a valuable tool if you want to maximize your MMO fun!

4.) Today's complete stranger is tomorrow's most helpful friend. Go figure. Who knew that Tank who was struggling to remember shield oath at Stone Vigil would later become the Uber tank that leads the FC through Coil? Give people a chance to improve. For the most part they will.

Now check your friends list when you log on and send a couple tells first thing to see if they need help -OR- are planning something cool you can join in on. After you find a cool friend or two, ask to join their FC. Don't expect a new FC to jump through hoops to help you. Help them first. Most players remember who helped them and try to make absolutely sure they can repay the favor when the chance arises.

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The only way to improve the community in FF is for each player to do their part to make it better. Can't find cool people? Start by being a cool person. Other cool people will find you. It takes time and effort to develop truly rewarding friendships. Then the fun will multiply. Fun, fun, for everyone.
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