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#1 Dec 04 2013 at 6:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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So a friend of mine got this game and I went over to his house and watched him play for a while last night and the game looks amazingly fun. So I'm going to go pick up a copy today.

Anything I should know before I start playing?
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#2 Dec 04 2013 at 6:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Roegadyn > all.

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#3 Dec 04 2013 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know what that means. The biggest question I have is PC or PS3?
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#4 Dec 04 2013 at 6:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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PC easily. Too many tools we have access to that you just can't ignore.

There are a ton of things you need to know! I can't list them all in one post, though. :X
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Well, list the important ones. I have a friend who plays and he has other friends who play, so I know what server I'm going to play on. I don't know what any of the classes do, you could start with that.
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#6 Dec 04 2013 at 7:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Roegadyn are one of the playable races the only race you should be playing.

As for jobs, you can try them all - so it's up to you if whether melee or magic is your thing. The current class/job are split over three categories: Tank, DPS and Heal. You will have to pick a class to start with, and the starting class decides which of the three cities you start the game. Once you finish the rank 10 story missions you can change to any other class in game, I'd give them all a try and go with the one you feel is the best fit to you.
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If you want to play with a friend from level 1, make sure your starting classes are in the same city.

Ul'Dah gets you: Thaumaturge (DPS), Pugilist (DPS), and Gladiator (tank).

Limsa Lominsa gets you: Maurauder (tank) and Arcanist (hybrid DPS/Healer and evolves into both summoner and scholar)

Gridania gets you: Conjurer (healer), archer (DPS), and lancer (DPS)

If you friend is already a higher level than you, ask him if there's a class he's yet to unlock. Don't worry about it too much - you can change classes any time after level ten, and the game is really meant to be played solo up to level 15.

Your starting class has its own series of quests and a storyline every five levels. Keep up with those because they unlock unique abilities.

Also keep up with the main storyline, as that's how you unlock stuff like airship access to the larger world and the dungeons which start at level 15.
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#8 Dec 04 2013 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, my friend is already leveled up a bit, like 17-18 archer I think. I generally prefer to play melee classes and oftentimes tanks, but I won't know what I'm doing as a tank so I'm thinking I should start as a DPS/DD. So that means lancer?

I do plan on trying every class. This game looks perfect for an ADD gamer like myself.

Are roe gaudy those big burly things? I don't know what any of the races are called except hyur, which is what my friend was playing. I kept wanting to call the little short race tarutsru from my days in FFXI.
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If you're stuck or wondering when you'll get something (like a chocobo), chances are the answer is: follow the main story.

There are several useful websites out there with relevant information.

A great database website:

http://xivdb.com/

A great website detailing jobs, strategy, the world map, dungeons, etc:

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/

You can probably find all the information you need about classes and jobs there.

You'll have to pick your first class which you will need to level to 10 before you can change to another class. To change to another class, you need to venture to the appropriate guild and do the class quest for that guild. After that, switching classes is as simple as switching what weapon you're using.

Once you hit level 30 with a class, you're able to choose a job: a more focused version of your class. For instance, a thaumaturge is able to select a black mage which boosts INT and gives you some job specific abilities that THM doesn't have. In exchange, you lose some of the cross class abilities that THM has access to. You also need to get a secondary class to level 15 for your job. It differs based on which job you choose. So, I'll give you a run down:

GLD (gladiator) changes to PLD (paladin) - tanky class; uses sword and board
MRD (marauder) changes to WAR (warrior) - tanky class that will receive buffs here soon; uses 2 handed axe
PGL (pugilist) changes to MNK (monk) - punch things with your fists! great physical DPS class
LNC (lancer) changes to DRG (dragoon) - stab things with your spear! great physical DPS class
CNJ (conjurer) changes to WHM (white mage) - one of the two healers; focuses on heavy AoE healing and is great for heavy healing on single targets
ARC (archer) changes to BRD (bard) - ranged physical DPS; bard uses songs to buff allies and does quite a lot of DPS by itself
THM changes to BLM - ranged magical DPS; focuses on heavy damage spells that require a little time to cast; great burst damage
ACN (arcanist) changes to:
SMN (summoner) - ranged magical DPS; uses a pet and focuses on DoTs; very high sustained DMG
SCH (scholar) - the second healer; uses a companion fairy to help heal which gives unique buffs; focuses on shields and AoE shielding

This is a gross simplification, by the way. :)

You also have the option to level up crafts and gathering professions. You do the same thing: go to the guild, accept the main quest, equip the weapon, and become that specific craft or gathering profession.

Cities that have the specific classes:

Limsa - ACN, MRD, culinarian, blacksmith, armorer, fishing
Ul'dah - PGL, THM, GLD, alchemy, gold smithing, weaving, mining
Gridania - LNC, ARC, CNJ, carpentery, leather working, botanist

Here is a website with the races:

http://www.final-fantasy-14.org/races

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#10 Dec 04 2013 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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I think I'm going to start as a LNC. That will also give me access to ARC in the same city and botanist and carpenter, which seemed to go together from what I saw last night.

Thanks for the links to the sites. I will definitely be doing a lot of reading today. Can I download the client directly from Square or do I need to buy a physical copy? Best Buy's website said a physical copy was $60, but I can get the PS3 version for only $10 as a PS+ member. If I can't get a digital copy for my PC for not much more than that I may have to consider going with the PS3 version.
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I think I'm going to start as a LNC. That will also give me access to ARC in the same city and botanist and carpenter, which seemed to go together from what I saw last night.

Thanks for the links to the sites. I will definitely be doing a lot of reading today. Can I download the client directly from Square or do I need to buy a physical copy? Best Buy's website said a physical copy was $60, but I can get the PS3 version for only $10 as a PS+ member. If I can't get a digital copy for my PC for not much more than that I may have to consider going with the PS3 version.


http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/product/

Digital download is $49.99 from SE - if you had been a little quicker there was a Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale. >.<
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#12 Dec 04 2013 at 8:41 AM Rating: Good
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****, that's high. Well, just checked Amazon and they have the digital download for $25 $30 so I guess I will have to do that. I do want this on PC instead of PS3.

The CE is only $50 on Amazon, unless that link you threw up is for the CE. I didn't clink on it to see.

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#13 Dec 04 2013 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, after doing some reading, I'm thinking a female midlander hyur will suit me just fine.
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#15 Dec 04 2013 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you haven't gotten the game yet, $29.99 here or here. But yeah, missed a sale.

And never roll a galkeroegadyn.
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Make sure your computer is up to stuff before buying, I assume it is since you listed it as an option for you. Would hate for you to buy a PC copy and not be able to play it.
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My PC is a gaming PC I built earlier this year, so I am pretty sure it is up to snuff. Does anybody have the requirements, since it looks like I'm going digital download and I'd like to be certain before I purchase it.

Intel Core i5 2.3 ghz processor
8 gb RAM
2g Radeon video card

Not sure what other specs would be needed, but my PC runs both WoW and SW:ToR with no problems.


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#18 Dec 04 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Default
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far as system to play on if u have a pc that can play it in good settings go that route cause even tho ps3 can play it pretty well it has issues mainly with big events/fate although I believe the ps4 version will fix a lot of that
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You should be good but you could also download the benchmark to make sure.
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#20 Dec 04 2013 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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The benchmark? I'm not at home right now, so for now I'm just doing as much reading as I can to get info for the game. I plan on downloading it tonight when I get home. I'm kind of mad at Amazon for not having sysreqs on the product info page. I can't access Sqenix's site on my work computer or I'm sure I would find them there.
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#21 Dec 04 2013 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Right! If you have any question on what to do next, the answer is absolutely "follow the story quest". It will lead you straight to all the things you want like chocobo, airship pass and multiplayers dungeons (starting at Lvl 15).

If you want to level a Class other than the one you start with, get to Lvl 10 on your starting class first and then go to the Guild Hall for the one you want to try.

If you think end-game is a goal for you, consider playing an Archer. They are in very, very high demand for the current bosses because they can use Silence. They also have perhaps the easiest time dodging because they can move while firing. Fair warning, SquareEnix may be changing this in the upcoming patch because of the extreme advantage being able to move while firing gives you.

Otherwise, do you have any ideas what you Class want to play? It's fun to give Class specific tips.
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The benchmark? I'm not at home right now, so for now I'm just doing as much reading as I can to get info for the game. I plan on downloading it tonight when I get home. I'm kind of mad at Amazon for not having sysreqs on the product info page. I can't access Sqenix's site on my work computer or I'm sure I would find them there.


Gives you a score and tells you how well your PC will run FFXIV.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/
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I just found the sysreqs on ffxivinfo.com and my PC is well beyond them. The only thing I'm not 100% certain of is which video card I have, but I know it's better than a Radeon 4770.

Man, I'm starting to get really excited. *twitch twitch*

@Gnu: I was leaning towards lancer or archer, but most likely lancer beause my friend who plays is maining archer and I didn't want to seem like too much of a copycat, lol. I don't know if end game will be a seriously possibility for me or not. That will entirely depend on how long raids take to run. I'm divorced with a 4 year old, so half the time I am not available at all because I have the munchkin.

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#24 Dec 04 2013 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
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What server is your friend on? If he doesn't have a Free Company yet (think guild)...I'm sure someone in this thread would be happy to offer you one that would help you guys out.

I'm on Balmung and would be happy to if you landed there. :) Welcome!
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He's on Midgar-something or other. He's in an FC with his brother-in-law on that server, so I don't think he'll be looking to move. I don't know any more details than that.
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I just realized Bismark is on that same server! Woot woot, at least I'll know more than 1 person, lol.

Also just checked and my graphics card is a Radeon 6950 2 gb, so that should be more than enough to run it with good to very good graphics.

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#27 Dec 04 2013 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
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I just found the sysreqs on ffxivinfo.com and my PC is well beyond them. The only thing I'm not 100% certain of is which video card I have, but I know it's better than a Radeon 4770.

Man, I'm starting to get really excited. *twitch twitch*

@Gnu: I was leaning towards lancer or archer, but most likely lancer beause my friend who plays is maining archer and I didn't want to seem like too much of a copycat, lol. I don't know if end game will be a seriously possibility for me or not. That will entirely depend on how long raids take to run. I'm divorced with a 4 year old, so half the time I am not available at all because I have the munchkin.


Cool. Lancer is a super fun class to play. The Dragoon Job is a DPS beast for fights that cater to melee DPS, which is most of them! The dodging of AoE attacks centered on your target is the key. You pick that up throughout the leveling process.

If you really want to go Archer, do it! Many bosses require a Silence rotation, where you take turns making sure the boss can't cast the super move that kills everyone. That means at least two Bards, which accounts for the high demand. You could end up being on the Silence team with your friend. A ton of the success depends on good teamwork between the Silencers! Ask your friend, he will agree with that I'm sure!

No matter what you pick, you are going to have fun. So many options for EXP and varying things to do while leveling up. Welcome to ZAM! Hope to hear more of your adventuring!
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I'm kind of leaning towards gladiator/paladin after some more reading. I think I can pick up tanking in 15 levels. I don't know, I'll probably try every job available to me.
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#29 Dec 04 2013 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Downloading now.

*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
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#30 Dec 05 2013 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Finally got the game downloaded and got to play for about 45 minutes this morning before work. First impressions:

-With graphics on all high settings, the game looks amazing and runs ridiculously smooth.
-I chose to start as a female midlander Hyur gladiator. I don't know if this means much in the long run, but it's what I picked.
-I haven't gotten to whack anything with my sword yet, but I've ran and explored a lot of Ul'dah.
-The UI is very intuitive. I wasn't grasping for how to do things at all and I slipped into the game like it was a comfortable shoe.

Oh, and I randomly ran into Hitome in Ul'dah this morning, but (s)he ignored me. It looks like (s)he was crafting, so (s)he might have been AFK.
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Haha that was you! I'm sorry I didn't get to say hi. I was actually reading the forums while synthing walnut lumber for a friend (so basically alt tabbed most of the time).

Welcome to the game and welcome to Midgard. :) If you need help with something or have questions, feel free to hit me up. Would be happy to synth you some starting gear for your gladiator.
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That would be awesome. I only got to run around about half the city this morning before I had to come to work. I'll be back on tonight around 7:30 or so. My character's name is Sofia Kashmir.
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#33 Dec 10 2013 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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So, how your first week been?

Haven't seen ya post so I'm guessin' you're having fun. :D

Try posting in the weekend accomplishment thread. It's great to see another adventurer climbing up through the ranks and hear how they are going about it.
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Dude, I've been posting all over the place, in like every thread and starting some new ones. My first week has been a blast. Got GLD to 23, joined the Immortal Flames, and am on my way to a chocobo mount.

I still have tons of questions, but they are mostly about the crafting classes. As a GLD I've successfully tanked the first 3 dungeons you do in story mode as well as Ifrit. We died first try on Ifrit but that was because one of our DPS didn't know to switch DPS to the nail. Second try we got him down with the quickness. I'm at the point in the main story quest now where I'm talking to the sylphs. I'm also trying to grind FATEs for seals to get my chocobo, but I've only found a couple and there has been nobody else around to help me out with them and killing 40 mobs as a GLD takes FOREVER.
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The primary places that people grind out FATES seem to be:
20-30: Quarrymill
30-37ish: Costa Del Sol
37 on up: Dragonhead

If you're not in one of those three areas, you probably won't have much help in FATEs. Just go to those zones and shout to join a group, or join one that's looking for members.

I think those zones ended up being the default ones based on the number and proximity of the FATES to the aetherytes. Sure, there are other areas with them at the same levels (at least prior to Dragonhead) but they're annoying to get to, like having to run around the mountains in Ala Mihgo or Forgotten Springs or Fallgoard Float.
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I think you can get seal faster by doing GC levequests. It's boring and repetitive but you can get your 2000 seals (or was it 3000) for your chocobo license in about an hour depending on fast you kill things (I did it as GLD and it didn't take me too long).

I'm not sure but I think that the lvl 20 GC leves for Immortal Flames are located in Camp Drybone. Hope this helps.
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FATEs come with an added boost of exp, however.

I get most of my seals from GC supplies quests. When I unlocked Expert mode, I got about 3000 seals in one shot from all the pink/green dungeon gear I'd won Greed lots on.
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The primary places that people grind out FATES seem to be:
20-30: Quarrymill
30-37ish: Costa Del Sol
37 on up: Dragonhead

If you're not in one of those three areas, you probably won't have much help in FATEs. Just go to those zones and shout to join a group, or join one that's looking for members.

I think those zones ended up being the default ones based on the number and proximity of the FATES to the aetherytes. Sure, there are other areas with them at the same levels (at least prior to Dragonhead) but they're annoying to get to, like having to run around the mountains in Ala Mihgo or Forgotten Springs or Fallgoard Float.


I would adjust your chart to read:

37-43 - Dragonhead.
43-50 - Northern Thanalan / Mor Dhona.
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A few responses to recent posts:

1. I don't know where any of those zones are and I haven't found a site yet with a decent map showing how the zones connect together.

2. Where do you pick up guildlevels? Is it from the normal levelquest guy in the adventurer's guild or is somebody near your GC supposed to hand them out?

3. Do you recommend getting a DoW/DoM class to 50 before working on all of the DoH/DoL classes?
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A few responses to recent posts:

1. I don't know where any of those zones are and I haven't found a site yet with a decent map showing how the zones connect together.

2. Where do you pick up guildlevels? Is it from the normal levelquest guy in the adventurer's guild or is somebody near your GC supposed to hand them out?

3. Do you recommend getting a DoW/DoM class to 50 before working on all of the DoH/DoL classes?


Ah sorry. Guess I don't always notice who is posting.

1.)http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://eorzeareborn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ChocoboMap-9-2.png&imgrefurl=http://eorzeareborn.com/map/&h=789&w=1124&sz=523&tbnid=hKGS5_QC6gQJQM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=128&zoom=1&usg=__2c0aqE78wTghM1QglHpadLXVMyg=&docid=8-MH3-j-kj6P_M&sa=X&ei=LoCnUtDlHObNsQTuuoHIBw&ved=0CEIQ9QEwAw

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2.) You go to the actual camp for your level (see map above) and then do a quest for the Guildleve NPC. That will unlock the repeatable Leves for that area.

3.) Because of the Myth Cap, where you can only advance lvel 50 item progress once a week, the asnwer is yes. The sooner you have a lvl 50 battle class, the sooner you can get the Mythology Stones you need for AF2 equipment. Can only collect 300 per week (soon to be 450), and each week you don't gather these tomes you fall behind in potential advancement. (Someday AF2 will be obsolete, but not right now.)

The actual answer is, of course, to do whatever is the most fun for you.
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Well that would explain why nobody in the Immortal Flames area had any quests for me. I think I'll grind my first 2000 seals on FATEs so I can save as many levequests for levelling my crafting and gathering classes. If I get to 99 allowances, I'll do a few leves so I don't waste them.

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Well that would explain why nobody in the Immortal Flames area had any quests for me. I think I'll grind my first 2000 seals on FATEs so I can save as many levequests for levelling my crafting and gathering classes. If I get to 99 allowances, I'll do a few leves so I don't waste them.

Edited, Dec 10th 2013 3:27pm by Bigdaddyjug


I think most people just sit at 99 Leves. You can go on a huge spree of crafting and use up a bunch. You won't use then all though, mostly because you will run out of materials or play time. At the 3-hour regen rate, they just accrue faster than most people can use them.

I wouldn't spend any time doing Battle Leves right now. (There is a patch upcoming that may buff leve EXP, we'll see.) They are not completely useless, still, the group Fate areas listed above will net you better EXP, and generally, being in a FATE party is just a bit more fun than soloing Leves.
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So I should go to Quarrymill for FATE grinding right now. Got it.
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#44 Dec 10 2013 at 10:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bigdaddyjug wrote:
So I should go to Quarrymill for FATE grinding right now. Got it.


And join one of the shout parties. They're drop in / drop out and very casual, but you'll boost your exp/hour a lot and it's just a lot more fun when you're with a group.
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#45 Dec 10 2013 at 11:08 PM Rating: Excellent
On a small note, Battleleves are slightly usefull for later levels, because you can often find chests with pink gear in them, which may be better than what you are wearing at that time (unless you run enough dungeons to have all green gear).
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#46 Dec 11 2013 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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Dyadem, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
On a small note, Battleleves are slightly usefull for later levels, because you can often find chests with pink gear in them, which may be better than what you are wearing at that time (unless you run enough dungeons to have all green gear).


That's a good point! Those chests are positioned so basically trip right over them on the way to the Leve objectives. Good stuff.
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Yeah, you're a bit late. I already made a female midlander hyur. Already up to level 24 or 25 GLD.
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#49 Dec 11 2013 at 3:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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"Lentils and Chestnuts" are available at the vendors that sell ready-made Culinarian food in each city IIRC (Gridania is the closest one when people start asking).

Bronze Ornamental Hammer is available at the Merchant vendor in Camp Drybone under Tools.

Chicken Egg is available at Tradeskill vendors and in the Bismarck.

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I needed the chicken egg last night!!! Somebody in chat even told me where and the **** Hotel Bismarck is NOT LISTED ON THE MAP!!!!
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#51 Dec 11 2013 at 5:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bigdaddyjug wrote:
I needed the chicken egg last night!!! Somebody in chat even told me where and the **** Hotel Bismarck is NOT LISTED ON THE MAP!!!!


It's one of the Aethernet destinations. If you don't have it, go to the Main Aetheryte and take the zone line north. It'll plop you right in front of the building (and Aetheryte). It's also known as the Culinarian Guild vendor.
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