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#102 Dec 13 2013 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.



Vanya should be transitional pieces. They are used to bridge the gap between darklight and AF2 / Allagan armors. When penta melded, they offer more stats than darklight, and make great transitional pieces because due to different materia and dye combinations they are customizable. Plus you can convert them for a guaranteed IV materia once you get the AF2 / Allagan BiS piece.


So, why wouldn't I skip DL altogether? I mean, why spend the tomes on DL pieces, when I can just buy the mats for Vanya? I could even use some of the money I've been hoarding for melds. With the cost of mats set to drop in the near future (Monday) it seems like a waste to grind away for DL stuffs when I can spend a combination of gil and tomes on Vanya.

I was thinking about doing the pants DL at least because that recipe requires 27 Phil mats alone lol. Are there specific pieces where DL outshines Vanya or Rosegold? Same question for the jewelry. If I can just make Rosegold now, why would I even bother getting DL?
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#103 Dec 13 2013 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.



Vanya should be transitional pieces. They are used to bridge the gap between darklight and AF2 / Allagan armors. When penta melded, they offer more stats than darklight, and make great transitional pieces because due to different materia and dye combinations they are customizable. Plus you can convert them for a guaranteed IV materia once you get the AF2 / Allagan BiS piece.


So, why wouldn't I skip DL altogether? I mean, why spend the tomes on DL pieces, when I can just buy the mats for Vanya? I could even use some of the money I've been hoarding for melds. With the cost of mats set to drop in the near future (Monday) it seems like a waste to grind away for DL stuffs when I can spend a combination of gil and tomes on Vanya.

I was thinking about doing the pants DL at least because that recipe requires 27 Phil mats alone lol. Are there specific pieces where DL outshines Vanya or Rosegold? Same question for the jewelry. If I can just make Rosegold now, why would I even bother getting DL?


I was actually wondering this myself... If I am a crafter (which I am)... and I am way behind on gear farming (which I am)... why wouldn't I just make my own 2-star armors and meld them and skip DL?
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#104 Dec 13 2013 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hairspray wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.



Vanya should be transitional pieces. They are used to bridge the gap between darklight and AF2 / Allagan armors. When penta melded, they offer more stats than darklight, and make great transitional pieces because due to different materia and dye combinations they are customizable. Plus you can convert them for a guaranteed IV materia once you get the AF2 / Allagan BiS piece.


So, why wouldn't I skip DL altogether? I mean, why spend the tomes on DL pieces, when I can just buy the mats for Vanya? I could even use some of the money I've been hoarding for melds. With the cost of mats set to drop in the near future (Monday) it seems like a waste to grind away for DL stuffs when I can spend a combination of gil and tomes on Vanya.

I was thinking about doing the pants DL at least because that recipe requires 27 Phil mats alone lol. Are there specific pieces where DL outshines Vanya or Rosegold? Same question for the jewelry. If I can just make Rosegold now, why would I even bother getting DL?


I was actually wondering this myself... If I am a crafter (which I am)... and I am way behind on gear farming (which I am)... why wouldn't I just make my own 2-star armors and meld them and skip DL?


You certainly can.

Although I would wait for 2.1 before making any leg items other than Darksteel.
#105 Dec 13 2013 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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Ravashack wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.



Vanya should be transitional pieces. They are used to bridge the gap between darklight and AF2 / Allagan armors. When penta melded, they offer more stats than darklight, and make great transitional pieces because due to different materia and dye combinations they are customizable. Plus you can convert them for a guaranteed IV materia once you get the AF2 / Allagan BiS piece.


So, why wouldn't I skip DL altogether? I mean, why spend the tomes on DL pieces, when I can just buy the mats for Vanya? I could even use some of the money I've been hoarding for melds. With the cost of mats set to drop in the near future (Monday) it seems like a waste to grind away for DL stuffs when I can spend a combination of gil and tomes on Vanya.

I was thinking about doing the pants DL at least because that recipe requires 27 Phil mats alone lol. Are there specific pieces where DL outshines Vanya or Rosegold? Same question for the jewelry. If I can just make Rosegold now, why would I even bother getting DL?


I was actually wondering this myself... If I am a crafter (which I am)... and I am way behind on gear farming (which I am)... why wouldn't I just make my own 2-star armors and meld them and skip DL?


You certainly can.

Although I would wait for 2.1 before making any leg items other than Darksteel.


Just curious, why not the leg items? So make all the other pieces but legs?
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#106 Dec 13 2013 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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Hairspray wrote:
Just curious, why not the leg items? So make all the other pieces but legs?

Vanya legs take 27 tome items, rings/braclet/necklace all take 18. The rest of your WHM 2 star gear takes only 9 each. There are reports that all 2 star items will require only 9 tome items after 2.1, so don't spend 27 now when there's a chance it will only cost 9 in 4 days.
#107 Dec 13 2013 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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LebargeX wrote:
So, why wouldn't I skip DL altogether? I mean, why spend the tomes on DL pieces, when I can just buy the mats for Vanya? I could even use some of the money I've been hoarding for melds. With the cost of mats set to drop in the near future (Monday) it seems like a waste to grind away for DL stuffs when I can spend a combination of gil and tomes on Vanya.

I was thinking about doing the pants DL at least because that recipe requires 27 Phil mats alone lol. Are there specific pieces where DL outshines Vanya or Rosegold? Same question for the jewelry. If I can just make Rosegold now, why would I even bother getting DL?


It's definitely viable just very expensive. If you have the gil, I'd go with Vanya/Rosegold because it will last you till you get mythology or Allagan gear. It will also aid you quite a bit in coil and CT coming up! To boost your HP to appropriate levels, casters often meld their accessories with VIT.

Saw this the other day. Might help you if you decide to go this route:

http://i.imgur.com/LN8YeqY.png
#108 Dec 13 2013 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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stouter wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
Just curious, why not the leg items? So make all the other pieces but legs?

Vanya legs take 27 tome items, rings/braclet/necklace all take 18. The rest of your WHM 2 star gear takes only 9 each. There are reports that all 2 star items will require only 9 tome items after 2.1, so don't spend 27 now when there's a chance it will only cost 9 in 4 days.


Oh okay thanks! I have not crafted any 2-star items yet, so I was not aware of this.
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#109 Dec 13 2013 at 6:41 PM Rating: Good
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That's a pretty saucy rumor if it's true about recipe changes. If they change that and change the number of tomes each mat costs and then you add beast quests the roulette etc I'm definitely skipping DL

Thank to everyone for their replies and suggestions!!!

Edited, Dec 13th 2013 4:42pm by LebargeX
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