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#1 Dec 14 2013 at 12:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Prices are much higher than anticipated. Guess I'll be resorting to a cardboard box and newspapers for the time being.
#2 Dec 14 2013 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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Well I guess it was more expensive than people were talking about, but this is FC housing so it kind of makes sense that people would have to work together for it to not hurt too badly.
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Ill admit i was taking a guess at like 20M at most for a large land. 250M on my server is just way too much. The whole point of housing is for your FC community to hang out, now your just going to get FC's inviting everyone and their dog to the FC in order to get more hand on the deck, losing that sense of community along with it.

Either way, yes im unhappy at this but lets be honest, there is alot of content coming to take our minds off it ^^
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#4 Dec 14 2013 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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While I agree that the prices are a little..off, don't be too discouraged:

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The Devaluation Timer
The price of a plot of land is set to be reduced 14% every six hours.

Example:
Small
- Starting Price: 8,000,000 gil
- 10 Days Later: 7,552,000 gil
- 15 Days Later: 7,328,000 gil
- 30 Days Later: 6,656,000 gil
- 90 Days Later: 3,698,000 gil
* The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price.
* From patch 2.2 onward, a free company will automatically relinquish its land if its estate is unused for a prolonged period of time.
#5 Dec 14 2013 at 1:33 PM Rating: Default
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Warby wrote:
Ill admit i was taking a guess at like 20M at most for a large land. 250M on my server is just way too much. The whole point of housing is for your FC community to hang out, now your just going to get FC's inviting everyone and their dog to the FC in order to get more hand on the deck, losing that sense of community along with it.

Either way, yes im unhappy at this but lets be honest, there is alot of content coming to take our minds off it ^^


I don't know about you but I'm not going to be sacrificing all my hard earned currency for a random FC I just joined for them to build a house. I know some people are bad with their financial management but I'd dare to say most of us know a bit better than to trust a random stranger (FC).

If anything this will strengthen that sense of community where every loyal member is putting in more effort than just accepting the FC invite.

Saying that 250M is too much sounds silly to me, it's like people think they are entitled to the largest plot of land on Dec. 17th. Getting access to that mansion is a longer goal than just a week's worth of effort and I don't see any negatives to it with the options we have.

Edited, Dec 14th 2013 10:35pm by Hyanmen
#6 Dec 14 2013 at 1:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I found it ironic that they added things to do for casual players, like housing, and then charged the most insane prices imaginable.

Legacy servers cheapest housing is 20 mil. I have 1 mil and a small small FC of friends. Even after a 90-day reduction in price, it's not feasible. I don't even see a route to gaining that much money from the game, except from other players.

Oh well. It was something I was looking forward to and now.. not.

Edited, Dec 14th 2013 2:34pm by Louiscool
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#7 Dec 14 2013 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Hyanmen wrote:
Warby wrote:
Ill admit i was taking a guess at like 20M at most for a large land. 250M on my server is just way too much. The whole point of housing is for your FC community to hang out, now your just going to get FC's inviting everyone and their dog to the FC in order to get more hand on the deck, losing that sense of community along with it.

Either way, yes im unhappy at this but lets be honest, there is alot of content coming to take our minds off it ^^


I don't know about you but I'm not going to be sacrificing all my hard earned currency for a random FC I just joined for them to build a house. I know some people are bad with their financial management but I'd dare to say most of us know a bit better than to trust a random stranger (FC).

If anything this will strengthen that sense of community where every loyal member is putting in more effort than just accepting the FC invite.


I really hope you are right. Only time will tell tho.

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While I agree that the prices are a little..off, don't be too discouraged:

Quote:
The Devaluation Timer
The price of a plot of land is set to be reduced 14% every six hours.

Example:
Small
- Starting Price: 8,000,000 gil
- 10 Days Later: 7,552,000 gil
- 15 Days Later: 7,328,000 gil
- 30 Days Later: 6,656,000 gil
- 90 Days Later: 3,698,000 gil
* The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price.
* From patch 2.2 onward, a free company will automatically relinquish its land if its estate is unused for a prolonged period of time.


Still going to be a minimum price of 125M for me tho, as it only lowers to 50%. For a 10-ish person FC this is hard. Looks like we going to have to sell some EM primals for the next few months. ><
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#8 Dec 14 2013 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll be quite excited if this decreases the current demand on ilvl70 equipment, lowering their prices. Giving more players access to skipping the ilvl70 tome grind altogether is a welcome change.
#9 Dec 14 2013 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's really no rational reason to even buy housing right now.

There are zero features available until later updates. There's no retainer access, no basement workshops, no chocobo breeding, no gardening...

You pretty much pay tens to hundreds of millions to place furniture and... that's' it.

#10 Dec 14 2013 at 2:34 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
While I agree that the prices are a little..off, don't be too discouraged:

Quote:
The Devaluation Timer
The price of a plot of land is set to be reduced 14% every six hours.

Example:
Small
- Starting Price: 8,000,000 gil
- 10 Days Later: 7,552,000 gil
- 15 Days Later: 7,328,000 gil
- 30 Days Later: 6,656,000 gil
- 90 Days Later: 3,698,000 gil
* The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price.
* From patch 2.2 onward, a free company will automatically relinquish its land if its estate is unused for a prolonged period of time.


Yeah, as others mentioned it's actually .14% based off the example they give (I believe it says .14 in the JP notes as well) and the max it will drop is 50%. So a small, casual free company will be waiting 3 months for the lowest tier of the smallest plot to drop within "affordable" levels, assuming that no one else buys it before you because then the timer restarts and you're out of luck.

Just very disappointing, this was really the main thing I was looking forward to and now it's hopelessly out of reach. I honestly can't decide if I want to continue my sub at this point.
#11 Dec 14 2013 at 3:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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20mil for a different place to sit is a bit much.
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#12 Dec 14 2013 at 3:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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20mil for a different place to sit is a bit much.


Ya, I remember in LotRO it was a cool feature. But once you got it, you were kind of thinking ok, I can log out here and that's about it. By the end I didn't even bother keeping up my rent for it and let it go cause it was never getting any use. If I'm in game, I'm probably hanging out where the shouts are to do something, otherwise I'm not logged in.
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#13Hyanmen, Posted: Dec 14 2013 at 4:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It grows your FC's e-peen just like completing an ilvl90 set even after beating Twintania consistently does.
#14 Dec 14 2013 at 4:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well the pricing just makes no sense to me. Like.. you are implementing a feature you put alot of work into and then telling the players to wait at least 90 days or more for it to become affordable.

Why? As a developer it just makes no sense. The only thing I can imagine is that housing and lot space is so limited on the servers that they made these prices just to prevent all but the most die-hard people from using the feature.
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#15 Dec 14 2013 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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So it seems to me that square has once again helped out the RMT business. Also seems to me that the people buying the majority of the houses will be RMT'ers right off the bat, only to RMT with lots/houses. Let's hope this isn't the case.
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#16 Dec 14 2013 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Fifth-class Fourth-class Third-class Second-class First-class
Small 40,000,000 42,500,000 45,000,000 47,500,000 50,000,000
Medium 150,000,000 159,375,000 168,750,000 178,125,000 187,500,000
Large 500,000,000 531,250,000 562,500,000 593,750,000 625,000,000

Is this how SE discreetly asking people to buy gil and then hand out mass banhammer to shut down gil trading once and for all, with drastic change to pricing right after mass ban?

625,000,000 gil for first class large plot, heck 1.0 maximum gil equivalent one can hold was only 2.0 99,999,999 gil.
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#17 Dec 14 2013 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Sounds more like a long term goal for the FC to work towards while doing the regular things.
#18 Dec 14 2013 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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Eh I guess they figure it will keep people around for at least another month while prices reduce which is good from a business standpoint. It's also another thing to 'work towards' which is something 14 was lacking.

Even the most devout players seem to be at a loss when it comes to the values, though. For me, my FC doesn't have the gil to spend on this type of thing and most of us play quite a bit. I know of another FC that has been 'helping' with Titan runs while accepting tips for the past two months. They're sitting at 100 mil I'm told...but even that's not enough to buy the highest level house as soon as it's released on Midgard. If they can't afford it, chances are no other FC on the server will be able to either.

I'm hoping that they reconsider the prices given the large amount of negative criticism but time is running out. :\
#19 Dec 14 2013 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
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SplatterPattern wrote:
So it seems to me that square has once again helped out the RMT business. Also seems to me that the people buying the majority of the houses will be RMT'ers right off the bat, only to RMT with lots/houses. Let's hope this isn't the case.


Probably to make it easy for STF to identify RMTer and ban them, shut down trading activity, removing mass gil from economy (not just the gil spent on house, gil hoarded on those banned accounts).

And since I'm defaulted for pointing out that 625m gil for first class large plot is ridiculous, there must be lots of rich people (i.e. RMTer) lurking on this board.
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#20 Dec 14 2013 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah if you read official forums all the RMTers and people with more money than sense are being absolute ***** to people who find the prices ridiculous lol.
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#21 Dec 14 2013 at 10:11 PM Rating: Good
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Jeez, I was thinking hundreds of thousand for the main lot, then tens of thousands for every person added. I was off by a bijillion.
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#22 Dec 14 2013 at 10:36 PM Rating: Good
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Prices that would make MC Hammer blush Smiley: clown
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#23 Dec 14 2013 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
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The prices are roughly what I expected. Smart for the higher prices for the legacy servers.

The 625m price tag on day one was a surprise. Wonder if anyone does it, lol
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People who think the priced are ok.. I say this. 125mil gil if Boughy from a gil seller would cost 3k irl money. This is rmt who use bots and hacks to make gil.. and its way over priced even for them lol.
#25 Dec 14 2013 at 11:23 PM Rating: Good
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Hyanmen wrote:
Warby wrote:
Ill admit i was taking a guess at like 20M at most for a large land. 250M on my server is just way too much. The whole point of housing is for your FC community to hang out, now your just going to get FC's inviting everyone and their dog to the FC in order to get more hand on the deck, losing that sense of community along with it.

Either way, yes im unhappy at this but lets be honest, there is alot of content coming to take our minds off it ^^


I don't know about you but I'm not going to be sacrificing all my hard earned currency for a random FC I just joined for them to build a house. I know some people are bad with their financial management but I'd dare to say most of us know a bit better than to trust a random stranger (FC).

If anything this will strengthen that sense of community where every loyal member is putting in more effort than just accepting the FC invite.

Saying that 250M is too much sounds silly to me, it's like people think they are entitled to the largest plot of land on Dec. 17th. Getting access to that mansion is a longer goal than just a week's worth of effort and I don't see any negatives to it with the options we have.

Edited, Dec 14th 2013 10:35pm by Hyanmen


While the thought of an entire FC working together and finally getting that multi-million gil house and furnishings sounds great, I'm going to be cynical here and wonder how soon we'll start to hear about FC's kicking people as soon as they have their housing. The way this is set up is a recipe for disaster IMO, in a lot of ways.
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People who think the priced are ok.. I say this. 125mil gil if Boughy from a gil seller would cost 3k irl money. This is rmt who use bots and hacks to make gil.. and its way over priced even for them lol.


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