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Massively seems to have given it a lot of love.
Wint wrote:
4) This is something I wanted to write about more in depth, but it is definately different. You saw in the alpha videos that there is now a cool down timer system in place. For solo work it makes the battles faster, but my worry was with party play. I got to do The Thousand Maws of Toto Rak with the community team (Pinurabi, Bayohne, and Rukkirii), and the combat really worked well for that, especially with larger monsters. Strategy is definitely required, it's not a zerg rush kind of thing at all. You actually have to be aware of not only the boss himself but the environment around him as well. It was really fun, I'll have more detail in my writeup.
Would you be able to elaborate a bit, Wint?
Edited, Feb 22nd 2013 1:10am by Ruisu
catwho wrote:
Massively seems to have given it a lot of love.
Their correspondent is a long standing FF fan.
Ruisu wrote:
Wint wrote:
4) This is something I wanted to write about more in depth, but it is definately different. You saw in the alpha videos that there is now a cool down timer system in place. For solo work it makes the battles faster, but my worry was with party play. I got to do The Thousand Maws of Toto Rak with the community team (Pinurabi, Bayohne, and Rukkirii), and the combat really worked well for that, especially with larger monsters. Strategy is definitely required, it's not a zerg rush kind of thing at all. You actually have to be aware of not only the boss himself but the environment around him as well. It was really fun, I'll have more detail in my writeup.
Would you be able to elaborate a bit, Wint?
Edited, Feb 22nd 2013 1:10am by Ruisu
Well I wanted to wait for my article, but I'll give you the example I was going to write about.
During part of my hands on I got to do a run through the level 25 dungeon Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak. They've revamped it from 1.0 extensively. When you get to the boss level, there is this sticky goo over places that makes your char run slower than normal. There are also these pods that, if you get too close to, burst open and poison everyone in range. I was Archer for this so I was able to pop the pods from a distance.
When we finally made it to the boss (a giant Mite type mob with a scorpion tail), there were more of those pods all around the room, so that was one environmental aspect that I had to manage. Another was every so often the tail would swing up and start glowing and you would get a message on the screen. If the tail wasn't "defeated" then it would start spitting venom on the floor turning it a bio-hazard green in places. If you happen to run over that stuff you lose health while standing in it. So you have to watch out for the pods, you watch out for the floor, and you have take on adds the boss summons as well as the main boss itself.
We were a group of 4 that were 10 levels higher than the dungeon and we still wiped on the first run. Once we figured out a strategy for dealing with all of these things, we managed to beat it. This is what I mean also when I say there is more to it than just running in and killing everything. You have to analyze and think through how to take on the boss, so party play is definitely not dead.
I had a question this morning after the live letter. I will perhaps expose some ignorance on my part. Will the game support multiple displays?
"The next time you have the urge to stab me in the back have the guts to do it to my face." - Malcolm Reynolds
I ran 1.0 with eyefinity so I sure hope ARR will as well.
Wint wrote:
Ruisu wrote:
Wint wrote:
4) This is something I wanted to write about more in depth, but it is definately different. You saw in the alpha videos that there is now a cool down timer system in place. For solo work it makes the battles faster, but my worry was with party play. I got to do The Thousand Maws of Toto Rak with the community team (Pinurabi, Bayohne, and Rukkirii), and the combat really worked well for that, especially with larger monsters. Strategy is definitely required, it's not a zerg rush kind of thing at all. You actually have to be aware of not only the boss himself but the environment around him as well. It was really fun, I'll have more detail in my writeup.
Would you be able to elaborate a bit, Wint?
Edited, Feb 22nd 2013 1:10am by Ruisu
Well I wanted to wait for my article, but I'll give you the example I was going to write about.
During part of my hands on I got to do a run through the level 25 dungeon Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak. They've revamped it from 1.0 extensively. When you get to the boss level, there is this sticky goo over places that makes your char run slower than normal. There are also these pods that, if you get too close to, burst open and poison everyone in range. I was Archer for this so I was able to pop the pods from a distance.
When we finally made it to the boss (a giant Mite type mob with a scorpion tail), there were more of those pods all around the room, so that was one environmental aspect that I had to manage. Another was every so often the tail would swing up and start glowing and you would get a message on the screen. If the tail wasn't "defeated" then it would start spitting venom on the floor turning it a bio-hazard green in places. If you happen to run over that stuff you lose health while standing in it. So you have to watch out for the pods, you watch out for the floor, and you have take on adds the boss summons as well as the main boss itself.
We were a group of 4 that were 10 levels higher than the dungeon and we still wiped on the first run. Once we figured out a strategy for dealing with all of these things, we managed to beat it. This is what I mean also when I say there is more to it than just running in and killing everything. You have to analyze and think through how to take on the boss, so party play is definitely not dead.
That actually sounds like they've pulled some of the good challenging elements from WoW dungeons.
kainsilv wrote:
I had a question this morning after the live letter. I will perhaps expose some ignorance on my part. Will the game support multiple displays?
As Belcrono said, I've seen 1.0 running on 3 displays, so I would hope they would take advantage of that same functionality in ARR.
PC Gamer seems to have a half assed attempt at a story, but they do end on a hopefull/positive note... were they at the event you were at?
Probably, there were 2 days of events, 2 each day. I don't want to point out who was at my actual event since I just crapped on them though 
Wint wrote:
Probably, there were 2 days of events, 2 each day. I don't want to point out who was at my actual event since I just crapped on them though
Good thinking.
Wint wrote:
Probably, there were 2 days of events, 2 each day. I don't want to point out who was at my actual event since I just crapped on them though
Your answer is good and safe enough lol.
catwho wrote:
Wint wrote:
Ruisu wrote:
Wint wrote:
4) This is something I wanted to write about more in depth, but it is definately different. You saw in the alpha videos that there is now a cool down timer system in place. For solo work it makes the battles faster, but my worry was with party play. I got to do The Thousand Maws of Toto Rak with the community team (Pinurabi, Bayohne, and Rukkirii), and the combat really worked well for that, especially with larger monsters. Strategy is definitely required, it's not a zerg rush kind of thing at all. You actually have to be aware of not only the boss himself but the environment around him as well. It was really fun, I'll have more detail in my writeup.
Would you be able to elaborate a bit, Wint?
Well I wanted to wait for my article, but I'll give you the example I was going to write about.
During part of my hands on I got to do a run through the level 25 dungeon Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak. They've revamped it from 1.0 extensively. When you get to the boss level, there is this sticky goo over places that makes your char run slower than normal. There are also these pods that, if you get too close to, burst open and poison everyone in range. I was Archer for this so I was able to pop the pods from a distance.
When we finally made it to the boss (a giant Mite type mob with a scorpion tail), there were more of those pods all around the room, so that was one environmental aspect that I had to manage. Another was every so often the tail would swing up and start glowing and you would get a message on the screen. If the tail wasn't "defeated" then it would start spitting venom on the floor turning it a bio-hazard green in places. If you happen to run over that stuff you lose health while standing in it. So you have to watch out for the pods, you watch out for the floor, and you have take on adds the boss summons as well as the main boss itself.
We were a group of 4 that were 10 levels higher than the dungeon and we still wiped on the first run. Once we figured out a strategy for dealing with all of these things, we managed to beat it. This is what I mean also when I say there is more to it than just running in and killing everything. You have to analyze and think through how to take on the boss, so party play is definitely not dead.
That actually sounds like they've pulled some of the good challenging elements from WoW dungeons.
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During part of my hands on I got to do a run through the level 25 dungeon Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak. They've revamped it from 1.0 extensively. When you get to the boss level, there is this sticky goo over places that makes your char run slower than normal. There are also these pods that, if you get too close to, burst open and poison everyone in range. I was Archer for this so I was able to pop the pods from a distance.
When we finally made it to the boss (a giant Mite type mob with a scorpion tail), there were more of those pods all around the room, so that was one environmental aspect that I had to manage. Another was every so often the tail would swing up and start glowing and you would get a message on the screen. If the tail wasn't "defeated" then it would start spitting venom on the floor turning it a bio-hazard green in places. If you happen to run over that stuff you lose health while standing in it. So you have to watch out for the pods, you watch out for the floor, and you have take on adds the boss summons as well as the main boss itself.
We were a group of 4 that were 10 levels higher than the dungeon and we still wiped on the first run. Once we figured out a strategy for dealing with all of these things, we managed to beat it. This is what I mean also when I say there is more to it than just running in and killing everything. You have to analyze and think through how to take on the boss, so party play is definitely not dead.
When we finally made it to the boss (a giant Mite type mob with a scorpion tail), there were more of those pods all around the room, so that was one environmental aspect that I had to manage. Another was every so often the tail would swing up and start glowing and you would get a message on the screen. If the tail wasn't "defeated" then it would start spitting venom on the floor turning it a bio-hazard green in places. If you happen to run over that stuff you lose health while standing in it. So you have to watch out for the pods, you watch out for the floor, and you have take on adds the boss summons as well as the main boss itself.
We were a group of 4 that were 10 levels higher than the dungeon and we still wiped on the first run. Once we figured out a strategy for dealing with all of these things, we managed to beat it. This is what I mean also when I say there is more to it than just running in and killing everything. You have to analyze and think through how to take on the boss, so party play is definitely not dead.
That's an encouraging note on the gameplay. Particularly good to know that you died once, but won the next time. Being just one dungeon, doesn't really allay my fears at all, but perhaps a sign of good things to come.
Nice description. I'm rather excited about the prospects of semi-scripted fights, though I have to wonder what the extent of exploration is when it comes to both finding different bosses (if possible) and finding different methods of defeating monsters like these are.
I have a standing fear that First Order Operators will continue to dominate like they typically do in MMOs unless SE can strike that sweet spot between challenge and variability.
I have a standing fear that First Order Operators will continue to dominate like they typically do in MMOs unless SE can strike that sweet spot between challenge and variability.
I don't suppose you learned anything about the new arcanist/summoner? It would be nice if you had something to share in that regard.
"The next time you have the urge to stab me in the back have the guts to do it to my face." - Malcolm Reynolds
That would be nice, unfortunately it was not playable during my hands on 
Only thing I was told was if it was a summon in any other FF then they wanted to bring it to XIV, so I expect lots of primal fights.
Only thing I was told was if it was a summon in any other FF then they wanted to bring it to XIV, so I expect lots of primal fights.
Ohh man, that opens so many doors and excitement...
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The Primal story line is meant to be one of the main story lines in the game, so there should be a decent amount of emphasis on primal fights I should think.
All of those forgotten Summons, Esper's and Eidolon's... I'm so geeked for SMN. It makes me miss my Taru.
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You can all look forward to the invasion of the huge blue whale that is Bismarck....
svlyons wrote:
If random outcomes aren't acceptable to you, then don't play with random people.
Archmage Callinon wrote:
You can all look forward to the invasion of the huge blue whale that is Bismarck....
Hot mama pamaja! Is it weird I'm excited for Sylph/Remora? I also have fantasies of Phoenix rezing my party after a near wipe. Mmmmm.
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Sylph seems like a natural desire. Remora? You might need to see someone about that.
I have an itch right here.. *shows Kachi*
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Warlord Raiendel wrote:
I have an itch right here.. *shows Kachi*
Ok I
at that one too much. 5 rate ups for you 
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