2013: ESO Vs FFXIV?Follow

Actually Thayos now that i sat down to really think about XIV story, even in 1.0 before yoshi, it was not horrible, i think the pace at which it was delivered killed it for me, to little at a very slow pace, but i remember wanting to know much more about this "Echo" and i remeber when i got my companion (I chose the midget magician) He was a mommas boy and all that, my problem with the story was, how my character was just a witness, i bearly had any say or influence in the story, i was a side character and everybody else was the main character :( also their pacing was horrible.... Tho i did enjoy the end of an era much more, i just hope they focus less on bringing other FF in to XIV and more into making FF XIV stand on it's own.(But that is a personal opinion)

To me, pacing the story is one of the hardest aspects of MMO design. There's really no good way to do it in a system designed to sustain subscriptions. One of the simplest things you can do is let players rewatch CSs from their journal/log, so that at least they can remember wtf is going on when they get to the next one.

I know that in FFXI it was related to the fact that the cutscenes were rendered using the currently loaded area data, so if you wanted to watch a cutscene in Sandoria, you had to actually be in Sandoria. I'm not sure how significant a developmental hurdle this is in general or if it was just poor foresight on their part. Worst case scenario, you have to move the character to that area temporarily to view the cutscene and then bring them back. That would have possibly allowed players to force a DC and end up in whatever zone they wanted to be in (which is not necessarily a problem if they can teleport there anyway).

Yeah, I dunno.

I don't think of it as ESO vs. FFXIV, from a consumer point-of-view. I think of it as...

Elder Scrolls Online ANNNNDDDDD FFXIV in the same year? Ohhh My Goodness what did I do to be so lucky??? //Cue guitar rip solo, awesome explosions, and eagle fly-by in the background//

Yeah I really like a "the story thus far" feature

I definitely want to try ESO but am reserved. I loved Skyrim (as my wife can attest to with an eye roll and a deep sigh of frustration), and would really be amazed if they could bring that world to life in an MMO. My reservation is mostly with the ability to bring in enough variety in quests and variation in fights to make it appealing. For me, Skyrim's biggest downfall was the fighting... I really hope the can find a unique system for battles that will work with a real time fight type environment. That all being said, I don't have time for more than one MMO, so it has to be leaps and bounds above FFXIV for me to even consider it at this point. Maybe I'll be lucky and have the opportunity to test both and form a better opinion. Sounds like their Beta will start at the end of March if all goes as planned.

I don't think it's fair to call this a ff based wow clone. Just because Yoshi-P trashed the craptacular UI doesn't mean he's gone full retarded on us. There are things that just work, and modernizing the Final Fantasy experience isn't the end of the world as we know it.

Dunno why, could never explain it but FF captured my soul a long time ago way back when the original was released, I played every release up to FFXI then I went pay to play and never looked back. I was not always faithful ;) and was sidetracked by Warhammer, Terra, Aion etc. But I always maintained my FFXI account and later FFXIV, I will probably give ESO a try out but I will always be back.

I`ll try both but it`s FFXIV I`ve been waiting for:)
Is it Bethesda who is making ESO?

No, ZeniMax Online Studios or something. Bethesda only advise them on *dadum* artworks.

TES fanbase is pretty much 50/50/ torn over ESO. It changed the lore for its own use, it changed the artwork direction and it isn't a sandbox game where you can do anything you want like offline counterpart.

Kinda always wanted co-op in skyrim but we`ll see how online goes:P

You and everybody else!

to be honest I checked out some stuff about ESO.

if I'm being genuine it looks much more promising than FFXIV from a gameplay perspective.