This discussion with Ostia is pointless for a few reasons.
1) we really don't have hard data, that means Ostia doesn't either
2) even if we did, Ostia would claim that SE fabricated their sales numbers to fit his/her view of this game
3) Ostia is trolling you guys hard, and will for the forseeable future, even if this game launches to critical acclaim
TLDR: don't feed the Ostia people
Oh come on Wint! How am i trolling them by saying the figure in VGcharts is units sold ? Do you have information that states otherwise ?
Aparrently Wada himself said they shipped those units.
We have had hard data, just not data you white knights like :) http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1332899848229324645#9 Or the direct like http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/41265-Check-your-server-population/page3
Those numbers where after the merger, and there are tons of more post like that, that have been posted here and discussed, but of course we all suffer from alzheimer's when is convenient. Never EVER! Have we had more than 50K+ players after the first Month of Retail. We did whoever had a bigger population Before official release and during the first week of retail: http://jp.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/14449/ffxiv-census/
Or you can see this one http://www.thenakamals.net/showthread.php?265-Lodestone-Census-Data It has all the data from only CE release and CE and Retail.
Now on the Troll argument, I might have a different point of view on the game, than most of you who are Yoshi-P cheerleaders, but i have been right, answer me this wint, you are legacy Right ? Is the game more akin to WOW than to XI ? You and i know the answer to that question, and i did say many many moons ago, that in order for the game to survive, it would have to emulate WOW :) Better yet, is the game more Wowish now than lets say in 1.23 ? You know the version everybody was paying for and according to Yoshi himself the version that was in his opinion "Worth Paying for" ? Why change the model to one more in line with WOW ? It worked in 1.23 Right ?
Also i have not been trolling this guys in a long long time, now a year ago or so, you might have had a argument, but i have not been trolling anybody lately, but for arguments sake, if i am trolling as you say, then you must be whiteknighting, and your opinion is biased, unlike you i do not have to keep SE happy, you know they dont pay my ticket to go to japan, to do a softball interview
Nor do i have to comply with their NDA because "Then we dont get access" etc etc.
P.S Not questioning your integrity, but hey you have more reason than me to play nice to SE.