FFXIV: ARR = FFXI 10000.0 ?Follow

Did you miss the part where I listed off a plethora of other stuff that is very similar to FFXI, including a large amount of stuff that isn't in FFVI? Apparently you did, or chose to conveniently ignore it. I can see that you've turned this into a circular logic argument, so I'm just going to end it there.

Mouseover their name, and when the drop down appears click "Ignore." It'll still show that they posted, but you won't see the content.

That's just it though, he isn't right. The games are different, but that's not what he's arguing.



These aren't factual statements. The first 3 are opinions which are grossly exaggerated and have already been disproven. The last is him guessing based on limited gameplay he's seen in videos and not even experienced first hand. Yes, there are similarities to WoW. There are also similarities to a plethora of other games. He completely fails to grasp that concept, or to even acknowledge that he is wrong, or at least exaggerating and making assumptions. Hence why most people have labelled him as a troll.



I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I think the games are much more similar than you're giving credit for. Yes their gameplay is somehwat different, but even that isn't completely unrelated. They both still are based off a TP-combat system, have many similar skills from ffxi, and have classes with very distinctive roles. If anything, in that regards ARR is MORE like FFXI than 1.0 was, because 1.0 was far more open-ended.

Also, I'm not sure when the last time you played FFXI was, but that game has been solo friendly since about 2006, and casual-friendly since the second abyssea came out (which is what, 4 years ago now?). I solo'd pretty much all of my classes pre-abyssea, and although I probably never got the 15k/hr of an excellent XP party while leveling, I still managed a fair rate while also not having to deal with forming/breaking of parties and getting all the spoils for myself. Also, FFXIV is still heavily focused on group play. All of the dungeons require groups, all of the endgame requires groups, FATES require groups (or just a bunch of people thrown together), and I'm pretty positive you can still group to XP.

I don't think having "floating question mark NPC, minimaps that point you to your destination, and casual-friendly content" make the game nothing like FFXI. I think it means that they learned that these things are convenient and efficient, ideas that gamers WANT.

If you read my post, you'd realize I mentioned a heck of a lot more than reused races in terms of similarities...

Edited, Apr 18th 2013 11:22am by BartelX

This post wasn't really about the similarities. As one poster accurately quoted me it was about ARR being the XI I always wanted. But now that it has sorta become about similarities. I do not understand how people cannot see that there are striking similarities in XIV and XI. I've decided to compile a list of a few of the similarities.

• Mithra= MiQote, Taru Taru = Lalafell, Hume = Hyur, Elvaan = Elezen, Galka = Roegadyn
• 3 Starting City States that are in opposition of sorts while a beastman threatens the land
• Those flags hanging outside of Limsa Lominsa are awfully familiar aren't they?
• Aetheryte= The New Crags

Sure these might only be a few, but they're pretty big in my opinion. In any case, I never said they were identical and I'm sure at least one person wont actually read this whole post to know that I merely pointing out there ARE similarities. That is a fact, not my opinion. Some might call these similarities "common FF themes" or "general MMO similarities" or the likes but whatever you choose to call them they still are there in a real tangible form.


...and whoever said FFXIV ARR taking a page from FFXI's book was a bad thing anyways? I loved the world in that game, the lore, the immersiveness. It was fantastic. If FFXIV ARR gives me the same satisfaction then the point of my original post holds true: That ARR is shaping up to give me the experience I wanted with FFXI - updated graphics, better story with voices, and a few updated characteristics that make it generally more playable and enjoyable. Nuff said.


Edited, Apr 18th 2013 12:55pm by electromagnet83

Yeah I guess I don't see why that one got rated down either, for once I agree with a post by Ostia, which makes me feel dirty

As I've already stated, twice now, yes he is technically wrong. He said the games have no similarities outside of monster .dats. Which is false. He then amended it to outside of FF themed content, which was STILL false. He then amended further to say the gameplay has no similarities, which is STILL false. No one is butthurt, I'm certainly not. I just would prefer people not to spew stuff like it is fact, when in reality it's at best a matter of opinion or assumption. And gee, never would have guessed that a troll is defending another troll.

Congrats, you must be right because you say so. Apparently you don't understand the definition of a fact. That's ok, I'm not really surprised. And since I've already gone through all this once, and you're either too lazy to read it or just too interested in starting an argument to care what was said, I'm not going to bring it up again. Trollers gonna troll.

Edited, Apr 18th 2013 1:56pm by BartelX

Sorry, I forgot that you have a time machine and played the game at launch already. Or are you inferring all of that from the beta you can't talk about? If so, kinda funny considering they've only released 20% of the content thus far.

Once again, read the thread. I made a pretty extensive list of similarities, and those were just the ones I took off the top of my head. You do realize that gameplay refers to pretty much everything in the game content-wise, other than graphics and audio... correct? That means story, lore, characters, world content, skills, abilities, etc. But yeah, you keep sticking to your "facts".