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#27 May 06 2013 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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Ya, the inside of mine stays pretty clean overall, but the radiator on my cooler just inhales dust like it's no one's business (probably why the rest of the case is so clean).


Same here. I had my NZXT X40 for 2 months and couldn't figure out why my case was so clean...then I checked the rad, looked like it was growing fur. I've been thinking about adding dust filters to my fan shrouds but haven't gotten around to it yet.
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#28 May 21 2013 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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Dont mean to necro but felt it would be better to reply to a thread then start a new one.. Question: Whats wrong with buyng an iBUYPOWER computer?
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#29 May 21 2013 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dont mean to necro but felt it would be better to reply to a thread then start a new one.. Question: Whats wrong with buyng an iBUYPOWER computer?


Generally nothing. New computers are a balancing act between price, performance, and effort.

You can get good performance for minimal effort, but you're going to pay for that.
You can get good performance for minimal price, but it's hard.
You can get bad performance easily, and it may or may not cost you a fortune Smiley: wink

The key to buying pre-built computers is to know what's going in to it. Are they cheaping out on the parts to improve their profit margin? Yeah usually.. so you have to be prepared for that.
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#30 May 21 2013 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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They seem to use good parts overall. Would just be a matter of pricing out what they give you fully assembled vs building it yourself.
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SaitoMishima wrote:
Dont mean to necro but felt it would be better to reply to a thread then start a new one.. Question: Whats wrong with buyng an iBUYPOWER computer?


Generally nothing. New computers are a balancing act between price, performance, and effort.

You can get good performance for minimal effort, but you're going to pay for that.
You can get good performance for minimal price, but it's hard.
You can get bad performance easily, and it may or may not cost you a fortune Smiley: wink

The key to buying pre-built computers is to know what's going in to it. Are they cheaping out on the parts to improve their profit margin? Yeah usually.. so you have to be prepared for that.


Is there ever a time when gaming that you would need 16gb of ram? Or is 8gb always enough?
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#32 May 21 2013 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Dont mean to necro but felt it would be better to reply to a thread then start a new one.. Question: Whats wrong with buyng an iBUYPOWER computer?


I own an iBUYPOWER computer that I had built for FFXIV when it came out. Other than a power supply issue that was my fault for not getting a beefy enough one when I bought it, the thing has run like a charm for 3 years now. They even upgraded my power supply for free when I contacted them, because technically they said it shouldn't have been able to finish the build with that supply. My two reccommendations if you go iBUY are to get the professional wiring, they do a great job of tucking it away in the case, and get the liquid cooling. It's absolutely worth the investment.

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#33 May 21 2013 at 8:27 PM Rating: Good
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SaitoMishima wrote:
Dont mean to necro but felt it would be better to reply to a thread then start a new one.. Question: Whats wrong with buyng an iBUYPOWER computer?


I own an iBUYPOWER computer that I had built for FFXIV when it came out. Other than a power supply issue that was my fault for not getting a beefy enough one when I bought it, the thing has run like a charm for 3 years now. They even upgraded my power supply for free when I contacted them, because technically they said it shouldn't have been able to finish the build with that supply. My two reccommendations if you go iBUY are to get the professional wiring, they do a great job of tucking it away in the case, and get the liquid cooling. It's absolutely worth the investment.

Edited, May 21st 2013 10:12pm by BartelX


Yeah I have been doing research on the parts individualy versus just getting a pre built one and I only saved 100 bucks doing it on my own.. But im not savy enough to do it without headaches lol.. So I will end up just getting a pre built one.. Thanks for the confidence boost though. May I ask what all came with your build and the total price?

Edit: Also with that build what was your benchmark score? Did it lagg fps wise much? Really just want to stay above 60fps or close.. my comp now (even though I got a high schore) fps suck.. like 20-30.. The lagg is so bad that once when trying to run away from a monster it was able to kill me because my lagg wouldnt let me run continuously but I kept coming to a stop because it wasnt reading my keys? lagg caused client/server to read my key intermittently I guess?? lol..

Edited, May 21st 2013 10:32pm by SaitoMishima
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#34 May 21 2013 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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SaitoMishima wrote:
Archmage Callinon wrote:
SaitoMishima wrote:
Dont mean to necro but felt it would be better to reply to a thread then start a new one.. Question: Whats wrong with buyng an iBUYPOWER computer?


Generally nothing. New computers are a balancing act between price, performance, and effort.

You can get good performance for minimal effort, but you're going to pay for that.
You can get good performance for minimal price, but it's hard.
You can get bad performance easily, and it may or may not cost you a fortune Smiley: wink

The key to buying pre-built computers is to know what's going in to it. Are they cheaping out on the parts to improve their profit margin? Yeah usually.. so you have to be prepared for that.


Is there ever a time when gaming that you would need 16gb of ram? Or is 8gb always enough?


Not yet, but RAM is usually the cheapest upgrade you can have in a PC.

My suggestion, if moving from 8GB to 16GB is unnecessarily expensive right now, is wait. There's no particular need for 16GB of RAM right now, and by the time there is, it'll be cheaper.
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#35 May 22 2013 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah I have been doing research on the parts individualy versus just getting a pre built one and I only saved 100 bucks doing it on my own.. But im not savy enough to do it without headaches lol.. So I will end up just getting a pre built one.. Thanks for the confidence boost though. May I ask what all came with your build and the total price?

Edit: Also with that build what was your benchmark score? Did it lagg fps wise much? Really just want to stay above 60fps or close.. my comp now (even though I got a high schore) fps suck.. like 20-30.. The lagg is so bad that once when trying to run away from a monster it was able to kill me because my lagg wouldnt let me run continuously but I kept coming to a stop because it wasnt reading my keys? lagg caused client/server to read my key intermittently I guess?? lol..


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Case NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion None
Case Lighting None
Processor Intel® Core™ i5 750 Processor (4x 2.66GHz/8MB L3 Cache)
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking
Processor Cooling Certified Liquid Cooling System
Memory 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand
Video Card ATI Radeon HD 5870 - 2GB - ASUS ROG MATRIX Design - Single Card
Video Card Brand Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3
Motherboard Add-on None
Power Supply 750 Watt -- Thermaltake TR2 TRX-750M Power Supply - SLI Ready
Primary Hard Drive 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive
Data Hard Drive None
Optical Drive 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black
2nd Optical Drive None
Flash Media Reader/Writer None
Meter Display None
Sound Card 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit
Keyboard iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black
Monitor None
2nd Monitor None
Speaker System iBUYPOWER 2.1 Channel Stereo Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System
Wireless Network Adapter ASUS USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 300Mbps Wireless USB Adapter
Power Protection None
Headset None
MP3/MP4 Player None
Video Camera None
Advanced Build Options Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Achieve exceptional airflow in your chassis
Rush Service Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days
Subtotal : $1,386.05
Tax : $0.00
Ground Shipping : $0.00
Total : $1,386.05


I too priced out parts individually and came to the same conclusion as you. It might have saved me 100 bucks, but the headaches of building it myself (never built a comp from the ground up) weren't worth it.

As far as performance... on the old benchmark for 1.0 I think I scored a 5000 or so... on the new benchmark on highest settings I scored just about 6000. I had lag issues in 1.0, but that was due to the instability of the game, not the computer. I've never had any issues playing other games on it. It was a great investment.
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#36 May 22 2013 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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SaitoMishima wrote:
Yeah I have been doing research on the parts individualy versus just getting a pre built one and I only saved 100 bucks doing it on my own.. But im not savy enough to do it without headaches lol.. So I will end up just getting a pre built one.. Thanks for the confidence boost though. May I ask what all came with your build and the total price?

Edit: Also with that build what was your benchmark score? Did it lagg fps wise much? Really just want to stay above 60fps or close.. my comp now (even though I got a high schore) fps suck.. like 20-30.. The lagg is so bad that once when trying to run away from a monster it was able to kill me because my lagg wouldnt let me run continuously but I kept coming to a stop because it wasnt reading my keys? lagg caused client/server to read my key intermittently I guess?? lol..


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Case NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion None
Case Lighting None
Processor Intel® Core™ i5 750 Processor (4x 2.66GHz/8MB L3 Cache)
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking
Processor Cooling Certified Liquid Cooling System
Memory 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand
Video Card ATI Radeon HD 5870 - 2GB - ASUS ROG MATRIX Design - Single Card
Video Card Brand Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3
Motherboard Add-on None
Power Supply 750 Watt -- Thermaltake TR2 TRX-750M Power Supply - SLI Ready
Primary Hard Drive 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive
Data Hard Drive None
Optical Drive 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black
2nd Optical Drive None
Flash Media Reader/Writer None
Meter Display None
Sound Card 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit
Keyboard iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black
Monitor None
2nd Monitor None
Speaker System iBUYPOWER 2.1 Channel Stereo Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System
Wireless Network Adapter ASUS USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 300Mbps Wireless USB Adapter
Power Protection None
Headset None
MP3/MP4 Player None
Video Camera None
Advanced Build Options Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Achieve exceptional airflow in your chassis
Rush Service Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days
Subtotal : $1,386.05
Tax : $0.00
Ground Shipping : $0.00
Total : $1,386.05


I too priced out parts individually and came to the same conclusion as you. It might have saved me 100 bucks, but the headaches of building it myself (never built a comp from the ground up) weren't worth it.

As far as performance... on the old benchmark for 1.0 I think I scored a 5000 or so... on the new benchmark on highest settings I scored just about 6000. I had lag issues in 1.0, but that was due to the instability of the game, not the computer. I've never had any issues playing other games on it. It was a great investment.


Solid system. Is the liquid cooling the Intel branded cooler? They are pretty nice. I used to have a 5870, good card. Runs kinda warm but a good performer. If you ever get the itch to build your own rig I recommend it, not nearly as difficult as it seems. Think of it as Legos for grown ups...and everyone loves Legos Smiley: grin
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#37 May 22 2013 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, it's the Intel brand. The GPU does run a little hot, but I have manual fan controls, so I just crank it up to about 50-60% tops and it cools right down. And compared to most NVIDIA cards I've tried, it's actually been considerably cooler.

Someday I will probably build my own, I've slowly been replacing out components in one of my older rigs just to learn the ins and outs, and have realized it isn't quite as difficult as I thought it would be. It's more controlling all the wiring and keeping the case looking nice that worries me.
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#38 May 22 2013 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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Until you accidentally static discharge your $350 video card to death... then you hate legos lol

Not me, but i did see it happen to a friend. He thought he was too cool for my little rubber mat and bracelet. Some people think it's over kill, but better safe than sorry.
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#39 May 22 2013 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, it's the Intel brand. The GPU does run a little hot, but I have manual fan controls, so I just crank it up to about 50-60% tops and it cools right down. And compared to most NVIDIA cards I've tried, it's actually been considerably cooler.

Someday I will probably build my own, I've slowly been replacing out components in one of my older rigs just to learn the ins and outs, and have realized it isn't quite as difficult as I thought it would be. It's more controlling all the wiring and keeping the case looking nice that worries me.


Hahaha cable management is definitely an artform. I'm about to do a complete tear down so I can disassemble and paint my case but I keep hesitating because my cables are so pretty Smiley: laugh My XFX 5870's fans were loud but easily bearable at 50-60% Try cranking your fans up to 100% just for kicks, your temps will drop dramatically and it's amazing how loud the fans can get Smiley: nod

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Until you accidentally static discharge your $350 video card to death... then you hate legos lol

Not me, but i did see it happen to a friend. He thought he was too cool for my little rubber mat and bracelet. Some people think it's over kill, but better safe than sorry.


Ouch Smiley: frown I used to use a static bracelet but I was in and out of my case so much it became a hassle. I eventually trained myself to touch something metal any time I reach in my case. It's so second nature now that I don't even realize I'm doing it. I was adding more RAM to my gf's pc and she asked me why I kept grabbing the metal table leg Smiley: grin

Edited, May 22nd 2013 11:39am by SkinwalkerAsura
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#40 May 22 2013 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, it's the Intel brand. The GPU does run a little hot, but I have manual fan controls, so I just crank it up to about 50-60% tops and it cools right down. And compared to most NVIDIA cards I've tried, it's actually been considerably cooler.

Someday I will probably build my own, I've slowly been replacing out components in one of my older rigs just to learn the ins and outs, and have realized it isn't quite as difficult as I thought it would be. It's more controlling all the wiring and keeping the case looking nice that worries me.


Hahaha cable management is definitely an artform. I'm about to do a complete tear down so I can disassemble and paint my case but I keep hesitating because my cables are so pretty Smiley: laugh My XFX 5870's fans were loud but easily bearable at 50-60% Try cranking your fans up to 100% just for kicks, your temps will drop dramatically and it's amazing how loud the fans can get Smiley: nod


Hehe, highest I ever went was 80% and it was already crazy loud. I was nervous that if I went any higher, my case might launch itself into the stratisphere. Smiley: lol

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I'd love to water cool but I just can't accept the idea of voluntarily pumping water into my computer case Smiley: laugh
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BartelX wrote:
Yeah, it's the Intel brand. The GPU does run a little hot, but I have manual fan controls, so I just crank it up to about 50-60% tops and it cools right down. And compared to most NVIDIA cards I've tried, it's actually been considerably cooler.

Someday I will probably build my own, I've slowly been replacing out components in one of my older rigs just to learn the ins and outs, and have realized it isn't quite as difficult as I thought it would be. It's more controlling all the wiring and keeping the case looking nice that worries me.


Hahaha cable management is definitely an artform. I'm about to do a complete tear down so I can disassemble and paint my case but I keep hesitating because my cables are so pretty Smiley: laugh My XFX 5870's fans were loud but easily bearable at 50-60% Try cranking your fans up to 100% just for kicks, your temps will drop dramatically and it's amazing how loud the fans can get Smiley: nod


Hehe, highest I ever went was 80% and it was already crazy loud. I was nervous that if I went any higher, my case might launch itself into the stratisphere. [:lol:Edited, May 22nd 2013 2:52pm by BartelX


Hahaha yeah. The stock fan for my NZXT X40 cooler sounded like a jet at max. I cranked it and my video card fans to 100% once just to see how loud it was. Very, it was very loud Smiley: lol

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I'd love to water cool but I just can't accept the idea of voluntarily pumping water into my computer case Smiley: laugh


Hahaha it's worth it, especially if you overclock or plan on overclocking. It is kinda freaky when your computer makes the occasional bubbling noise though Smiley: lol
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I'd love to water cool but I just can't accept the idea of voluntarily pumping water into my computer case Smiley: laugh


Then does that mean you can accept the idea of involuntarily pumping water into your computer case? =P

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Without trying to sound too much like a walking commercial...

Whenever I need to clean out a customer's disgusting PC that they hadn't even realized they should consider cleaning after 10 years.. I reach for this thing.

http://www.garrettwade.com/the-power-duster/p/77V01.07/


Lol thanks a lot! I haven't turned my pc on since FFXIV servers went down, and I'm going to have to clean it. I don't like buying all those air cans when I can just get a longer lasting machine.
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Personally i wouldnt opt for that system its based on old technology at least several years old and someting based on ivybridge with a newer 79xx ATI card would be better.

i5 750 (several generations old)

5870 (several generations old)
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#46 May 23 2013 at 5:34 AM Rating: Good
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Personally i wouldnt opt for that system its based on old technology at least several years old and someting based on ivybridge with a newer 79xx ATI card would be better.

i5 750 (several generations old)

5870 (several generations old)


...duh? It was purchased in 2010 before FFXIV 1.0 was launched. I was pretty sure I mentioned that in a previous post. I'm amazed how well it's held up however.
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