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I am not so sure this description does MRD justice. They can put out some serious damage once you unlock berserker.
Also, their damage increasing skills have a much lower cooldown than those of gladiator, making them about twice as
potent. It's a very interesting class, because it is a full tank that does good damage, but requires decidedly more skill to
reach its full potential than gladiator. Or at least that was my impression.

If you want to be "the turtle", go GLA. Easy, steady tank'n-spank without too much to worry about; but in return, your DD
potential is very limited. If you want to be an excellent tank while doing impressive damage at the same time, while not
running out of TP or HP, you will have to combine the skills of several classes on MRD. There's more "potential" here in
the long run, but a much steeper initial investment (skill and time) required.

Welp we'll see what happens when endgame starts stressing tanks and dps checks hit the game. I hope warrior can tank anything in the game, because if they can't the paladins will get first dibs on gear to tank the major bosses, and then warriors will assume their place as the guild's add phase tank with the leftovers. I doubt they will allow warriors to compete with paladins for the guild's main tank position. Players also insist on finding which is best and which is gimp, and they blow those differences out of proportion into sweeping statements of what you can and can't do with them. I hate when they do that, but it's nearly inevitable once endgame mentality sets in.

I'll keep the warrior maxed out. But I think its design doesn't live up to the warrior as a founding job, and it betrays the FFXI warrior archetype by a fair margin. Combined with the difficulties of balancing hybrid jobs, with hybrid taxes...and it's no surprise that warrior comes out dead last by a double down margin when polls ask what players are interested in/will be levelling to 50 first. Surprisingly, scholar tends to be 2nd last. But it's like 4% to 9% interested in that job.

Boy you sure didn't. Back when the description of pugilist included steal on the official site, marauder was described as a heavy damage dealer.
Still sore I see. Hmm.

I remember that. Memory's foggy about what it said on marauder, but I never forgot the pugilist having steal or DoH classes having combat roles. Another laughable, but painful memory of 1.0.

Yeah, to be fair marauders weren't the only ones to get their starting archetypes changed around. Conjurer rivals marauder in the severity of the switch. Archer...not a ranger. Bard.

I levelled conjurer and marauder because I had a FFXI warrior and I wanted to try an offensive elemental mage this time around. Bang. Tank and healer.



I have lancer to 40. I'll have dragoon at 50 by launch. Many people are doing an exodus from warrior and going to drg or monk.

Lol holy crap hi! Ok

I'm very excited with Yoshi-P's interest into bringing a sneaky class into the game. Has THF/NIN written all over it!

I'm seeing a lot of this too. For example, dark knight does not require a great sword or scythe. Dark Knight was basically introduced in FF4 where Cecil used a dark blade (deathbringer) and a dark shield.

There are a lot of possible jobs because the final fantasy lore has a lot of content but what we dont need is too much overlap. FFXI really didnt need more classes. Once it was found that one class was better at a role than the others, groups sought after that class the most to fill that role. Ask a DRG about their party invites in the early levels. There were much better choices for damage dealing for a very long time.

I'm not saying I want FFXIV to have only a handful of classes and jobs, but if they go that route the classes need to bring a useful and unique set of skills to a group. Otherwise they'll be sitting LFG while the more effective job goes out to engage in content. So goes the nature of an MMO.

Below I have listed a few *known* (by me) Final Fantasy Classes that were previously used and the weapons associated with them:

Dnc: H2H (11), Tamborine, Chakrum (7 Yuffi-nin/thf/dnc type, 8 Rhinoa - Dnc/Rdm type)
BLZ (Black Wizard): Dagger, Rod
WHZ (White Wizard): Staff
Geomancer: Staff?
Blue Mage: ??? (Don't remember, I think they historically were stave users)
Sketcher: Paintbrush (Blue Mage?)
Controller/BeastMaster: H2h (Gau), Paint Brush (Upgraded Sketcher? Been a while, can't remember which came first), Axe (11)
Drk (Dark Knight): Sword, Polearm (FF6, Ok, technically he was a Dark Dragoon), Great Sword (FF11)
Master: H2H (Yang Fang FF4)
Martial Artist: H2H (Sabin, ff6, also used Street Fighter style moves)
Engineer: "Tools" (Edgar in ff6), Polearm (Cid ff7- He is basically a Dragoon who builds airships in this one)
Musketeer: Gun (FF14 - The guild is below the Maruader guild)
Corsair: Sword/Gun (FF11) - If you look at the AF for Musketeer it REALLY resembles 11's Corsair
Ninja: Short Asian Blades, Katana, Daito, Sai, wakazashi
Samurai: Long Asian Blades: Daikatana, odachi
Thief: Crossbow, dagger
Scout: ???
Assassin: Dagger/kunai (I could see a problem with 3charing the name for that...)
Mimic/Onion Knight: Anything/everything
Knight: Sword and Shield
Barbarian: Axe
Brawler: H2H
Pirate: Sword/Gun
Red Mage: Sword/Foil
Fencer: Foil
Soldier: Sword/Gunsword
Freelancer: Sword
Dragon Knight: Polearm (Dragoon with different translation to name)
Puppet Master: H2H
Gambler: Gun?
Breserker: H2H?


Now I know that I am missing quite a few, these are just ones that I remember (and I do not claim to have perfect memory, and I didn't research them just to keep it true to me for the list).

With that being said, there is plenty of room for not only additional classes, modification from one class to another, but a healthy history of many things only using one weapon, or variations of a single weapon. There is also a history of classes building into Jobs, or the evolution of classes beyond their base.

SE has a lot to work with, and it will be interesting. But I don't see balance as being "For every job we add to one class, we need to add another". Diversity and balance can be maintained even if they are not equal in allocation.

Personally I would like to see the following additions:
Lnc -> Drk (Yeah, Yoshi said it would be coming from Gla, but I just like the idea of them using a polearm instead)
Gla -> Rdm
Con -> Whz, But Based on the current balance, I really don't see that happening
Mrd -> Bar(barian)
Gla -> Sam (Introduction of Asian Swords usable by the job)
Arc -> Scout
Thm -> Geomancer
Pug -> Master

And the classes I would like to see them add would be:
Sketcher: Would work to add a Blu and Bst without running into balance issues, and a paint brush as a weapon is funny.
Musketeer: Yeah, I know it's comming, but it's not here yet, and I would like to see Corsair come from it.
Soldier: After seeing the stuff the Garleans have, I WANT A SOLDIER!
Thief: Would be great, then add Assassin and Ninja from it.