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#27 Jul 01 2013 at 12:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont care if its called ZAM, the name isn't important. I am looking for a newly formed legacy shell founded and operated by ZAM members for ZAM members. The Ultros shell decided to call itself ZAM, but this is not a requirement for the legacy one i am looking for. As long as it is brand new and free of any hierarchy or previous rules/regulations/cliques/etc from 1.0. Shells that existed pre-ARR will likely have their own previously formed dynamics and making a new shell that is founded, operated, and regulated by and for ZAM members gives everyone a fresh start on an equal playing field and is what I seek.
#28 Jul 01 2013 at 12:44 AM Rating: Excellent
Ravashack wrote:
Wint wrote:
Ravashack wrote:
Given the fact that the previous Zam-related linkshell is called "LootWhorinDramaFest," stating that you want "a Linkshell named ZAM" is far clearer than "a Zam Linkshell," yes. I apologize for the aggravation you felt.


LootWhorinDramaFest was NEVER a Zam shell. The Zam shell was The Kraken Club, we formed LWDF separate, and it has stayed separate since.


Ah, my bad! It still wasn't called "ZAM" either way.

Edited, Jul 1st 2013 2:21am by Ravashack


No problem, I just didn't want LWDF associated since most of those in it were not Zam regulars.

Incidentally the name creator was a Zam regular named Mikhalia Smiley: tongue
#29 Jul 01 2013 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Elamille wrote:
I dont care if its called ZAM, the name isn't important. I am looking for a newly formed legacy shell founded and operated by ZAM members for ZAM members. The Ultros shell decided to call itself ZAM, but this is not a requirement for the legacy one i am looking for. As long as it is brand new and free of any hierarchy or previous rules/regulations/cliques/etc from 1.0. Shells that existed pre-ARR will likely have their own previously formed dynamics and making a new shell that is founded, operated, and regulated by and for ZAM members gives everyone a fresh start on an equal playing field and is what I seek.


This is what I'm hoping for too! Can anyone in the know comment?
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#30 Jul 01 2013 at 3:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Elamille wrote:
These are linkshells created by ZAM members, they are not a ZAM linkshell.

Elamille wrote:
I want a ZAM linkshell, not a linkshell made by someone on ZAM.


Stop. Please. My poor brain.
#31 Jul 01 2013 at 3:20 AM Rating: Decent
Wint wrote:
Ravashack wrote:
Given the fact that the previous Zam-related linkshell is called "LootWhorinDramaFest," stating that you want "a Linkshell named ZAM" is far clearer than "a Zam Linkshell," yes. I apologize for the aggravation you felt.


LootWhorinDramaFest was NEVER a Zam shell. The Zam shell was The Kraken Club, we formed LWDF separate, and it has stayed separate since.


Was there really a LS called LootWhoringDramaFest ?
#32 Jul 01 2013 at 4:46 AM Rating: Good
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Elamille wrote:
I dont care if its called ZAM, the name isn't important. I am looking for a newly formed legacy shell founded and operated by ZAM members for ZAM members. The Ultros shell decided to call itself ZAM, but this is not a requirement for the legacy one i am looking for. As long as it is brand new and free of any hierarchy or previous rules/regulations/cliques/etc from 1.0. Shells that existed pre-ARR will likely have their own previously formed dynamics and making a new shell that is founded, operated, and regulated by and for ZAM members gives everyone a fresh start on an equal playing field and is what I seek.


We can create one on Balmung in phase 4 just as we did on Ultros for phase 3 and plan to for phase 4. At the moment the linkshell on Ultros probably meets your requirements as it is newly formed and has no hierarchy except that all members are leaders of the shell and can invite anyone. Only Mara Jade has retained rights as Master. A similar structure can exist on Balmung.

That said I don't recommend making a ZAM free company. I think any ZAM shells should remain social only and a place for gamers to come and relax and discuss strategy, recruit, etc... If we follow this pattern I think the linkshells are more likely to succeed and endure. ZAM members can band together and form Free Companies but I think they should be managed independently.

Edited, Jul 1st 2013 6:48am by kainsilv
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#33 Jul 01 2013 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
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This is painful.
#34 Jul 01 2013 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
supermegazeke wrote:
Elamille wrote:
These are linkshells created by ZAM members, they are not a ZAM linkshell.

Elamille wrote:
I want a ZAM linkshell, not a linkshell made by someone on ZAM.


Stop. Please. My poor brain.


Oh for the love of GOD!!! MAKE IT STOP!!
#35 Jul 01 2013 at 8:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ostia wrote:
Wint wrote:
Ravashack wrote:
Given the fact that the previous Zam-related linkshell is called "LootWhorinDramaFest," stating that you want "a Linkshell named ZAM" is far clearer than "a Zam Linkshell," yes. I apologize for the aggravation you felt.


LootWhorinDramaFest was NEVER a Zam shell. The Zam shell was The Kraken Club, we formed LWDF separate, and it has stayed separate since.


Was there really a LS called LootWhoringDramaFest ?


Yes. We'll be moving to Ultros for phase 4 and launch.

http://na.beta.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/linkshell/22236523160141831/
#36 Jul 01 2013 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
Ostia wrote:
Wint wrote:
Ravashack wrote:
Given the fact that the previous Zam-related linkshell is called "LootWhorinDramaFest," stating that you want "a Linkshell named ZAM" is far clearer than "a Zam Linkshell," yes. I apologize for the aggravation you felt.


LootWhorinDramaFest was NEVER a Zam shell. The Zam shell was The Kraken Club, we formed LWDF separate, and it has stayed separate since.


Was there really a LS called LootWhoringDramaFest ?


Yes it's my Linkshell. We will be on Ultros for P4 like Geffe said, some of the folks wanted to be able to party with the Zam people.
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