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#27 Jul 29 2013 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess many people do have some bias towards JP voice acting (be it like that because of popularity of anime or whatever) and all things JP anyway.

I've heard some ridiculous JP voice acting aswell as english ones. Still if there is choice between good JP and good english voice acting I think I would go for english (that is if we can assume that lipsynch is perfect for either of these languages, I hate bad lipsynch). The reason I prefer english over japanese is that I can understand all the dialects better which make the game feel more alive for me.

Still, the main reasoning when choosing between english and japanese voice acting in games is the origin of the game basically. Listening english dub on a japanese game is stupid as the lipsynch usually is quite off and it really takes some "reality" away from the game.
#28 Jul 29 2013 at 5:42 AM Rating: Good
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Some dubbed anime series like Dominion Tank Police not only had the voices dubbed but also replaced most if not all of the music with Japanese lyrics in them.

Megaman 8 was soul crushing to hear the English voices. They were funny for all the wrong reasons and when you think about how rocking the soundtrack to most Megaman games are, the 8th incarnation breaks all immersion of Megaman being a badass. They did change his voice in later games so he now sounds okay.
#29 Jul 29 2013 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
You guys remind of this sometimes.

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#30 Jul 29 2013 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
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The only problem here is Square's archaic policy of not allowing an option to choose between original and dubbed voice acting like pretty much every other game in the past ten years.
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#31 Jul 29 2013 at 9:59 AM Rating: Default
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What are implying here? JP voice actors are not as great as people like to believe.
Try pitting Crispin Freeman against Hiiyama Nobuyuki. A guy that can't scream if it saved his life against the man that is capable of breaking microphones if he's not careful when he screams.


People like you are just proving my point for me. Thank you. If you are so biased that you wish to use some name I never heard of to make a point, you're obviously a JP fanboy and thus your opinion is meaningless.
#32 Jul 29 2013 at 10:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Ruisu wrote:


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What are implying here? JP voice actors are not as great as people like to believe.
Try pitting Crispin Freeman against Hiiyama Nobuyuki. A guy that can't scream if it saved his life against the man that is capable of breaking microphones if he's not careful when he screams.


People like you are just proving my point for me. Thank you. If you are so biased that you wish to use some name I never heard of to make a point, you're obviously a JP fanboy and thus your opinion is meaningless.


Perhaps look up the actor before making sweeping generalizations? Freeman has been in a TON of well-known American VA. It has nothing to do with bias. There are some really great and some really not great JP VAs, and there are some really great and some really not great American VAs. Stop being such a xenophobe.
#33 Jul 29 2013 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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Shadowedge, have you been spending too much time on the Beta forums?

I know there are plenty of users there that slam the English VA due to the Crystal's Call trailer and are automatically going for Japanese VAs without giving the English VAs a chance, but there hasn't been anyone on this thread that has doing any of the sort.

As for the topic at hand, it's good that they're giving the option. I know a lot of people that just prefer Japanese VAs for multiple reasons, though I prefer to support my English voices, as long as they're good.
#34 Jul 29 2013 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Ruisu wrote:


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What are implying here? JP voice actors are not as great as people like to believe.
Try pitting Crispin Freeman against Hiiyama Nobuyuki. A guy that can't scream if it saved his life against the man that is capable of breaking microphones if he's not careful when he screams.


People like you are just proving my point for me. Thank you. If you are so biased that you wish to use some name I never heard of to make a point, you're obviously a JP fanboy and thus your opinion is meaningless.


If your point is that you like to contradict yourself in the same thread and do zero research about what you're talking about, I think you've made that point quite clearly.





Seriha: I thought Symphony of the Night used English VAs for the English version? This doesn't sound like JP VAs. I can't comment on Star Ocean 2 because I've never played it.

Edit: Grammar typo.

Edited, Jul 29th 2013 12:22pm by Ravashack
#35 Jul 29 2013 at 10:54 AM Rating: Default
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Perhaps look up the actor before making sweeping generalizations? Freeman has been in a TON of well-known American VA. It has nothing to do with bias. There are some really great and some really not great JP VAs, and there are some really great and some really not great American VAs. Stop being such a xenophobe.


Taking what I posted out of context doesn't make you right. I said it was nobody I ever heard of.... so how can I respond to that? How about picking someone like Nolan North, David Hayter, Kevin Conroy, Claudia Black, Dee Bradley Baker, Troy Baker, Tom Kane, Jennifer Hale,Tara Strong, Mark Hamil, Phil LaMarr or the voice God himself Frank Welker? My post had nothing to with being a xenophobe. It's ironic you call me that considering Japan(1% non JP) is the most notorious xenophobe country in the world.

Edited, Jul 29th 2013 11:55am by ShadowedgeFFXI
#36 Jul 29 2013 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Shadowedge, have you been spending too much time on the Beta forums?

I know there are plenty of users there that slam the English VA due to the Crystal's Call trailer and are automatically going for Japanese VAs without giving the English VAs a chance, but there hasn't been anyone on this thread that has doing any of the sort.

As for the topic at hand, it's good that they're giving the option. I know a lot of people that just prefer Japanese VAs for multiple reasons, though I prefer to support my English voices, as long as they're good.


Seriously, there are people that have a problem with that trailer? Please don't tell me they hated Cid's voice too? As for your question, yeah I've spent too much time listening to people berate English VO so it's annoying to me to hear people blatantly prefer JP actors when they can't even understand it. lol
#37 Jul 29 2013 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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Ravashack wrote:
Seriha: I thought Symphony of the Night used English VAs for the English version? This doesn't sound like JP VAs. I can't comment on Star Ocean 2 because I've never played it.

The version released in 2007 in the Dracula X Chronicles apparently used NA VAs, so I'd actually be interested to find that version to see if there is a difference. Otherwise, my claim was I'd been led to believe back in the day as a cost-saving measure employed by Konami. Nowadays, the career VAs tend to have studios in their own home, but others tend to have to get flown in to various locations. As an example of what I was implying, though, I can't speak Russian. Put someone in front of me who can with enough coaching, however, and I say a few lines, too. SoTN wasn't a line-heavy game, so instead of finding a bunch of NA VAs, they could've just done this for English with the JP VAs they did have. In turn, it could go a long way in explaining why it sounds so bad despite the cult-like adoration of the intro sequence. Personally, I like to think I have a good ear and recognize the more prominent NA VAs even if they use alternate voices. The tells are different for each actor, but in general I haven't recognized the SotN VAs in anything since. So, either they weren't hired for anything mainstream again or there's some merit to the coaching theory.

I'm also reminded of Valkyrie Profile, which does have some hilariously bad acting. What keeps it from SotN's accusation is the presence of VAs who did the early Pokemon. Lenneth was Officer Jenny if I remember right, and I think Brock voiced Lucian. Think Ash's VA did a mermaid or something, but it's been way too long.
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#38 Jul 29 2013 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Japan(1% non JP) is the most notorious xenophobe country in the world.


Oh man, buddy, you just need to stop. Like. Right now. Because if you think Japan is the most xenophobic country in the world, I got some pretty bad news for you and your very narrow view of ongoings in many other countries in Europe, Africa, Asia, and parts of the United States. Smiley: lol Here, let me school you on what xenophobia is really like:

http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/05/13/xenophobia-greece
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Partly hidden within this turmoil is another crisis threatening to spin out of control – xenophobic violence against those migrants and asylum seekers in Athens and elsewhere. Mob violence against people from Afghanistan, North and sub-Saharan Africa is alarmingly commonplace, much of it going unrecorded.

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Even more disturbing is that some politicians appear reluctant to act decisively on this issue for fear of a populist backlash from Golden Dawn. This has led to intense public hostility towards foreigners often going unchallenged. At a hearing in the Greek parliament in November at which we presented findings on xenophobic violence, one ruling party MP labelled foreigners coming to Greece as “cockroaches”.


I'm not saying Japan doesn't have its xenphobic tendencies. I've been there. Spent several months there teaching English. Saw plenty of what one would call 'naive racism'. But please, get over yourself if you believe it's 'the most notorious country in the world' when it comes to that issue. Last I checked, roaming violent protests towards foreigners are not a thing, nor are fringe political parties gaining clout simply because they cater to people who want to see outsiders either expelled or dead, legal immigrant or no.

Sorry for the off-topic tangent, folks. This sort of ignorance just tweaks me in the most unfathomable ways.
#39 Jul 29 2013 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're singling out bad, early generation voice acting and this isn't the example you used?

Better example.


Edited, Jul 29th 2013 2:13pm by lolgaxe
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#40 Jul 29 2013 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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Seriha wrote:
Ravashack wrote:
Seriha: I thought Symphony of the Night used English VAs for the English version? This doesn't sound like JP VAs. I can't comment on Star Ocean 2 because I've never played it.

The version released in 2007 in the Dracula X Chronicles apparently used NA VAs, so I'd actually be interested to find that version to see if there is a difference. Otherwise, my claim was I'd been led to believe back in the day as a cost-saving measure employed by Konami.
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Whoever told you that about Symphony of the Night definitely lied to you, because it definitely had a full English speaking cast for the US version (the top half compared to the bottom half). I've played through the Playstation version and haven't heard anything that sounded like a coached JP voice actor talking.

As for comparison between that and the Dracula X Chronicle version, someone did put up a direct comparison between the intro and the "best" ending for both, so if that sates your curiosity...

(They're definitely VERY different, and it's not just because of the voice actors.)
#41 Jul 29 2013 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
You're singling out bad, early generation voice acting and this isn't the example you used?

Better example.


Edited, Jul 29th 2013 2:13pm by lolgaxe


Because you'd be too busy laughing at the comments to listen to the speech.
#42REDACTED, Posted: Jul 29 2013 at 12:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't agree that violence is required or needs to be the main catalyst for xenophobia, your opinion is ignorant. Sure there are those that take advantage of the economic situation to spew hatred like the Dawn Guard in Greece. That kind of stuff is politics though, nothing to do with how the average people feel about strangers whom don't belong.
#43 Jul 29 2013 at 12:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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ShadowedgeFFXI wrote:
Satisiun wrote:
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I don't agree that violence is required or needs to be the main catalyst for xenophobia, your opinion is ignorant. Sure there are those that take advantage of the economic situation to spew hatred like the Dawn Guard in Greece. That kind of stuff is politics though, nothing to do with how the average people feel about strangers whom don't belong.

Honestly, this is about games so here's my example for that. If you can't play a damn game without hearing the phrase "JP Onry", that's pretty sad. There is no evidence to support any other country of being guilty of this, so now what?


There was a game called Knight Online many years ago. The English speaking player base refused to play with the Turkish. No different than the Japanese having a tendency to not play with English. It all came down to how one community perceived the other.

Personally, I can't speak a sentence in Japanese and I was in a JPN HNMLS back in FFXI. There is no fanboying here. Inglorious Bastards was a movie I enjoyed, partly because it presented itself with its native language to the region.
#44 Jul 29 2013 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
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There was a game called Knight Online many years ago. The English speaking player base refused to play with the Turkish. No different than the Japanese having a tendency to not play with English. It all came down to how one community perceived the other.


What you conveniently left out was why they didn't want to play with the Turks. It wasn't because they were better or simple due to the language barrier. It was because like FFXI's gil sellers, these Turks were griefing people, hacking the game, and even killing off AFK players for lawlz.This isn't a simple playstyle difference, that's
total b.s. Context is key and leaving it out shows your bias.

Speaking of bias, here's this little gem.

DRG wrote:

Personally, I can't speak a sentence in Japanese and I was in a JPN HNMLS back in FFXI. There is no fanboying here. Inglorious Bastards was a movie I enjoyed, partly because it presented itself with its native language to the region.


I had many JP friends and good relations with the majority of them. However, there were JP players that were racist and xenophobic. I never once in all my years of FFXI did I ever see a person from Europe, Brazil, you name it say "my home country onry". So while many JP players were cool which I freely admit, there are so many cases that prove what I said to be true. By not admitting that, you're clearly showing bias.
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