Gamebreaker.tv XIV podcast re-booting today at 4pm PSTFollow

If the system is well-designed, cash shop participation is optional.

Rift is a great example of this. Their f2p switch is almost a b2p switch (like gw2) when you consider that buying the game box gets you most of your bag slots (same number of bag slots you'd have had under their sub model) and all your character slots. Their other cash shop items are entirely optional and are mostly cosmetic.

So under those circumstances (and Rift isn't the only one), why does the presence of a cash shop affect you in any way? Because you seem to be saying that the cash shop existing at all is ruining your experience when it can be completely ignored.

i wouldnt have checked the forums for months at a time because of it Wint... i think its kinda redundant! noone or rather I could care less about why anyone would think this game should be on a F2P or P2P bases... its been stated that its never going F2P so why talk about it at all? its not happeneing and thats from the man in charge....

If you want to play a game thats F2P go join in Maplestory i hear its still full of little children that wana ***** about anything and everything...

This argument raged on for about 6 or 7 months straight after DCUO first launched... and I thought for sure they would just stay subscription based... but they went F2P because ultimately it was the market that demanded it. I hope this game does not go F2P, but if it did it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Subscribers still get perks that freebies don't get, like unlimited access to all expansions/DLC content, unlimited access to in-game money, and other perks that made it worthwhile to subscribe... so a large portion of their player base remains paid subscriptions. I was a paid subscriber until last month when Beta 3 started for me.

People who brought up the F2P argument would get bashed on their forums too... but eventually it was clear they were correct in that particular instance. Not saying it will happen to FFXIV, but ultimately they will make the decision that makes the best financial sense for them. They may be forced to accept the F2P model as DCUO was. We don't know yet.

Love this, and its so true. Everyone is trying to find ways to spend their time while they patiently... or not so patiently await the reopening of the servers. Some people seem to thrive in drama, we even had some Trolls on Leviathan that spent half the beta creating drama in Central Shroud.

At least we should get stated a bit tomorrow when the Character Creator benchmark is released. It won't necessarily keep everyone occupied until the live letter but it should help lol.

I could have sworn I read somewhere Plus wouldn't be required for XIV, but maybe that's just me making things up. I think Plus is totally worth the money however, so at least you get more than online access for your dollar.

Sounds like it was, at least in part, Square's decision.

That's Sony Online Entertainment, not SquareEnix...
SOE makes DC Universe for the PS3, which up until this release was the only MMO on the PS3.

Man thats good to hear.

I cringe every time he says "X-I-V", I would prefer they just say fourteen.

Edited, Aug 1st 2013 1:33am by Jeraziah

Wonder what happened to Kenzie?

Eorzea Episodes?

yeah...she wasn't very good at hosting....but i really enjoyed the dynamic between her (optimistic and somewhat naive fangirl) and gary (realist who really wanted to love the game but couldn't ignore the writing on the wall). it made for good tv even though she didn't really have what it took to be a good host.

fourteen sounds really silly imo. XIV sounds better. either way they won't be changing it. i'm not sure what all the fuss is about that. the people in the chat room harping on it were really annoying.

nah DCUO started out as P2P.






You just said that success is objective, and then you said that it is subjective in the next sentence. Which is it? Scraptower most definitely thinks that its subjective. I'm quite certain that it isn't, at least not in the context of business.