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#52 Aug 23 2013 at 4:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Killua125 wrote:
What? I didn't even know you were on Ultros (a.k.a. the 4chan /b/ server).


actually ultros is the 4chan /vg/ server(i checked) so it shouldn't be THAT bad, heck it shouldn't be a problem at all.

Ontopic: i have a 10 year old cousin who loves videogames, my uncle and aunt don't really know about videogames in general so they asked me to take care of him in that aspect and i think letting kids play games is a good idea but as everyone said, only if you are there watching, i wouldn't let him play CoD in a Pug server, thats for sure.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 6:34am by MitArgento
#53 Aug 23 2013 at 5:03 AM Rating: Good
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You are her parent so its finial decision. I'd say too young. It may even be against the TOS.
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#54 Aug 23 2013 at 5:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Killua125 wrote:
What? I didn't even know you were on Ultros (a.k.a. the 4chan /b/ server).


Dude, really? --> http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=1375461320180085109

Come on... I've given you the benefit of the doubt more so than others in many threads, but this is just so far out of line. There are sooo many topics pertaining to Ultros, and Bartel has many of those posts that I'd think it is safe to say most anyone with more than 10 posts realizes he is not only on this server, but instrumental in the ZAM community; given he started the frickin' linkshell. Please stop feigning ignorance on the subject because it is not only silly, but disrespectful.

As for the topic, only you can say how to raise your children. Getting others opinions on the topic is nice to gauge the community's feeling on it, but ultimately it is your kid and your parenting.
#55 Aug 23 2013 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
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I'm actually insanely jealous that someone out there gets to share their interests with their kid, and is helping to shape their development. Makes me want to be a dad, and kinda sad that I don't have a kid of my own right now.
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#56 Aug 23 2013 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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darexius2010 wrote:

This is all coming from someone who can't really tell you when the last time I was 9. What do you younger folk and new parents think? How is 9 years old for XIV?


Not too young for the game itself (skill at the game can be obtained), but way too young for the uncensored online community component.
#57 Aug 23 2013 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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I think aslong as your in the room and make sure the chat log stays on battle let the kid play. Rather a kid play ffxivarr than CoD or the like. lol Just make sure that they no if anything is wrong to come get you (abusive tells and such) I also know some parents who let there kids farm for them or do quests just not instances.
#58 Aug 23 2013 at 8:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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garethrogue wrote:
I'm actually insanely jealous that someone out there gets to share their interests with their kid, and is helping to shape their development. Makes me want to be a dad, and kinda sad that I don't have a kid of my own right now.


My toddler is constantly telling me to fish everytime she sees water. Which is wierd because I cast a line four times in the beta while she was around. They get really cool to share interests with when they turn 4. Before that they like to break stuff.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 9:13am by Valkayree
#59 Aug 23 2013 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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It's not the TV's fault children curse, it isn't video game's faults they're violent, and it isn't music's fault they're sad. It's the parent's.
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#60 Aug 23 2013 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
It's not the TV's fault children curse, it isn't video game's faults they're violent, and it isn't music's fault they're sad. It's the parent's.


You can parent your hind end off and you still can't keep them from seeing or hearing what they are not supposed to. I quit worrying about language in music and tv long ago, but Jesus with the violence. I can't watch CNN, weather channel, or even prime time TV and not see some dude with a bloody face, or something about some messed up thing that happened. Even toddler cartoon channels are not immune. Worst instance: If I'm not precisely on the button switching off Nick Jr. at 8pm, they start showing naked people (Nick Mom). I'm an 80s kid. The worst we had really was Mortal Kombat and that came out in our early teens. Before that, I lived in the land of beep boop pixelation and my mom thought Ghosts and Goblins was devil worship. Oh how the times have changed...
#61 Aug 23 2013 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
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That's when you sit your kid down and discuss what they see instead of shaking your fist at the moving pictures.
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#62 Aug 23 2013 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
That's when you sit your kid down and discuss what they see instead of shaking your fist at the moving pictures.


My four year old contradicts herself mid-sentence. Rational sanity hit my older daughter at 7, so I know at least there is some light at the end of the tunnel. It takes a team of jugglers and bright shiny things to convince her that you are correct. You can't tell her the facts straight up, you have to sugar coat it and make her feel that it was her own idea. Still, to her, Mickey Mouse and Ranbow Dash are both wiser than her old man. She takes them face value, but no one else.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 9:37am by Valkayree
#63 Aug 23 2013 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
ASpaceman wrote:
9 year olds should be running around and playing with other kids...you know, being socially active outside instead of playing video games in front of a computer or tv.
I don't have kids of my own, and it is your kid so you can raise him/her however you want. Just stating my humble opinion.

Why not both? I was playing games since I was like 4 or 5, but it didn't stop me from "running around and playing with other kids".

As for the OP, I think it's fine as long as someone is with her, though it's really hard to say because every child is different, some 9 years old are more mature than 15yo, sometimes they act like 5.
#64 Aug 23 2013 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
My daughter is almost nine, and there is no way I'd allow her to seriously play an MMO. People are intolerant, she would get upset, and - most important - she should not be rotting her brain with this stuff. She should be interacting with real humans and playing outside and reading books. We should all be aware of how addictive these games are, and I would be horrified at the thought of my impressionable little girl getting sucked into an MMO or any game!

Having said that, I have allowed her to tinker around on my WoW account. She mostly just drowns or sends nonsense messages to people she doesn't know. She's never played for more than an hour at a time and I don't think I'd be happy with her playing for any longer than that.

So for me; in extreme moderation, I would be okay with it. Seriously playing, though - no chance.
#65 Aug 23 2013 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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It's up to the parent... there's some language and terms to explain to the average 9 year old, some they might be able to explain to you.

As far as MMOs being addictive, you can use that as an incentive for chores/grades... where each result equals a certain amount of weekly play time. We've had plenty of young'uns in various MMO groups I've played in, some couldn't handle the fast paced responsibilities of group play but did just fine in trios of patient guild/LS-mates or just enjoyed crafting or gathering and solo stuff.

I started playing MMO's (though the massive wasn't as massive as it is now) somewhere around 10 years old and I'm fairly normal now in my mid 30's ^.~
#66 Aug 23 2013 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
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It's entirely up to the parents and no one else. The world itself is a dangerous place, the longer you try to shelter your children, the more out of place they will feel when they realize what you have been hiding from them.
#67 Aug 23 2013 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Dorgon wrote:
Minimize the chat window and set her off to farm for crafting mats... farm I say FARM!


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#68REDACTED, Posted: Aug 23 2013 at 3:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Good point. Let's just give our 9 year olds weed and alcohol too. They're going to encounter it eventually anyway
#69 Aug 23 2013 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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Louiscool wrote:
Some of the text from NPCs is a bit too mature.

For instance... one NPC told me about how he heated his Rivets. If he didn't use the ash of fire elementals, they would get as cold as a dead (insert naughty word for 'woman of the night')'s crotch.

This and more, only in FFXIV!


The Gladiator's quest has a phrase that says something along the lines of "they are about as useless as nipples on a gladiator's breastplate"

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 5:54pm by LordMethos
#70 Aug 23 2013 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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Killua125 wrote:
supermegazeke wrote:
It's entirely up to the parents and no one else. The world itself is a dangerous place, the longer you try to shelter your children, the more out of place they will feel when they realize what you have been hiding from them.


Good point. Let's just give our 9 year olds weed and alcohol too. They're going to encounter it eventually anyway


Let me be perfectly clear in saying that a video game is not weed and alcohol. That is an extreme that no one is debating.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 9:46pm by supermegazeke
#71 Aug 23 2013 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
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Don't you hate when people who don't have kids try to tell the people who do, how to raise them? They have no freaking clue!
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#72 Aug 23 2013 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Don't you hate when people who don't have kids try to tell the people who do, how to raise them? They have no freaking clue!


All day I have struggled with urge to say that in this thread. It's surprising how many people will defend their right to have an opinion on issues in which they have no practical experience.

I've learned it's better to just nod and smile.
#73 Aug 23 2013 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
Plenty of people who do have kids and have no idea what they're talking about, too.
#74 Aug 23 2013 at 8:04 PM Rating: Excellent
Non-educational? I know more obscure names for armor and medieval clothing than a member of the SCA, thanks to FFXI.

A friend of mine was doing her master's degree in medieval history and told me that her thesis was regarding the evolution of houppelandes from the 13th to 14th century. Then went, "I belt no one even knows what that is." I did know, however, that it was a tunic of some sort, and I told her as much. How did I know? FFXI level 70 mage gear: Errant Houppelande.

From subligar to pauldrons, from weskits to gaiters, MMOs will teach you the names of all the armored bits you could ever be curious about.

Also, mythology. Mythology everywhere. The summons are the most famous, but XI has taken a turn into Hindu gods and demons in recent years, which is why you can clobber a six armed Uptala on any given evening there.

That's not to say I disagree that children should be reading books and playing outside. But for rainy days or sick days, or during family time, there's nothing wrong with a video game.
#75 Aug 23 2013 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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i was born 1985, i started gaming at age 5-6 playing Zelda on my mom friends nes playing the legend of Zelda. around 7-9 we got the snes and play mortal Kombat, Golden eye 007, mickey adventures the lion king alladin adventure goof troup video game.

Kinda sad to see al.ot of comments on a 9 year old as if their 4-5 years old. But personally... I wouldn't let a 9 year old on an MMO, you can't really hide the chat box as communication plays a big roll. Its better if they play offline games.

Also from reading OP post, it more seems they want their kid to play for a selfish reason as to wanting to play ffxiv more (i mean no offence that just the vibe i'm getting). Kids don't nor should be doing everything you are. I played Little big planet 2 and saw too much bs from kids. I also had an inncident in my LS on ffxi with a 7 year old and his parent. If you kid wants to game with you pick a non mmo to play that way you don't have to censor stuff. Cuz remember, mmo are played as a community.
#76 Aug 23 2013 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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pse text limit......

Your actions/your childs actions will affect others in some way. And if someone is trying to communicate to you are your kid to help with something, anbd the chat log is blocked... kinda defeats the purpose amd may come across as rude.

Now a days i wouldn't put it past ppl to make forum topics just to bad mouth a person fir a slight thing. Cyber bullying is running rampet.
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