Yup SE is definitely tryiing to go mainstreamFollow

I don't know what's wrong with me, but I bet it is worth a bucketload of points in Scrabble and really fun to watch people with speech impediments try to pronounce correctly.

Sir, don't you come in here and presume to fact me in the face. 4 out of 3.5 doctors (the 0.5 isn't an actual doctor, I think it's a dog in a lab coat) agree that facting people without their consent is mildly untoward.

Im not saying that Dynamis, Limbus, Salvage, Einherjar etc etc WEREN"T raids. Becvause they definitely are. All Im saying is they were never CALLED that officially OR unofficially. So why start using th eterm with FFXIV? That is what Im getting at. I mean if wew're gonan name everything the way its done now why arent we and SE calling our characters "Toons"? You use that term regarding FFXIV on these boards and people go ballistic

Why NOT call them raids? Raid is an easily understood term for anyone who's even been remotely aware of MMORPGs over the past decade, and not necessary just those people who played FFXI. I'm sorry that you're opposed to easily communicating ideas to people, but that's really a problem you're going to have to deal with yourself.

Using a different word for the same thing is innovation?

Thesaurus-writers all over the world will be thrilled.

Sometimes different numbers. ^cite

Yoshida gave talks about this a number of times. But the headline version is you can't innovate in a vacuum. You don't make a better car by gathering engineers who've never heard of or seen a car before and expect that the car they do create will be better than the cars we already have (which was almost exactly the strategy used for 1.0). You learn from what is out there already, master it, and improve upon it bit-by-bit.

Well they have done their fair share of crash testing.

Oh look it's Killua's older brother!

Yes, because clearly World of Warcraft was the very first MMO to use the terminology raid.

Oh, wait. You mean to tell me that FFXI is the old man out trying to use random words for simple terminology that was accepted before it was even created! Oh no, obviously preludes is the genius because WoW is the only MMO to ever use the word "raid" and thus we're trying to appeal to only WoW players.





It's a damn video game. There's nothing professional at all about the word raid or alliance. If anything, using the actual intention behind the word raid is more professional simply because it actually describes the group and what you intend to do.

Coming up with new words to try to 'not be mainstream' with the already established terminology isn't 'professional'. It's called trying to be a unique snowflake. You know, like WHM/WAR?


Edited, Sep 25th 2013 5:32pm by Viertel

I'm going to give you what you want to hear. FFXIV ARR is a WoW clone. It's best for business, that's why they did it. JP franchises are dying and they've sold out to the Western concepts. Capcom is so broke, they only have like 150mil left in the bank. FFXIV 1.0 almost bankrupted SE. The Wii U is dragging down the Big N. So yeah, FFXIV is a mainstream title. FFXIII was their first shot at it, now FFXIV ARR seems to be their definitive version. I know some people will be pissed, but let's just admit it and move on.

/thread over