The long waits for updatesFollow

At this point, with it's track record, I'd rather they take time to release proper content then to rush it out and have half of it broken. They've also been doing several server maintenance which I think has delayed some of the content development. I'm sure SE could release smaller instances more often, but then people would blow through them in a week or two and complain that it's not enough.

Hell, they announced King Moogle and people are already complaining gear isn't on par with other things so they won't bother. Like I said, it doesn't matter what they do anymore, how fast, how slow they release something, the length, difficulty, someone will complain. I've played several other MMO's, and the ones that update frequently are lackluster at best, and the ones that take their time, well it's never fast enough.

Class balancing is coming, but it's not something you just do over night. There has to be actual thought involved, without trying to break certain aspect of each job too much. Some of it might even involved re-hauling content cause of the way bosses act right now, they do next to nothing to ranged DPS. It's all on the melee to get the hell out of the way and limit their DPS. At some point, you just got to play what's there, and take things as they come. You don't like it? Unsub and come back at a later time, no one is forcing you to stick around cause you feel there's not enough content at the current time. I'm sure SE is reading much of the constructive criticism it receives, but it can't fix it over night or even in a month.

But, but, but, but it's 12$ a month! Content should roll out faster! Unfortunately, as a company they're out to make money. Yes they need to please you, the customer, but they also have to turn a profit and salary a whole whack of people. They hire too many people, then they don't make profit. I really need to stop ranting, at this point what I've done with EVERY MMO that had something I really didn't like? I left, unsubbed and walked away. That's it, that's all. Like I said earlier, you like the game but don't feel content is coming fast enough? Then unsub until it does, if you've truly done everything it has to offer at this point, what's the point in paying and not playing?

I wouldn't be opposed to scrapping housing altogether. I can't speak for everyone, but I would imagine the majority of people only spend the 10 seconds it takes to logout in their room.

SE needs to adjust the priority of their updates. If people spend less than 5% of their playtime in their housing, SE should spend less than 5% of their development resources trying to implement it

I agree only if the housing isn't coming at the expense of gameplay. If the housing system itself contains a decent amount of gameplay, then cool... go for it.

Housing is really something that can be added at any time though. And right now it does feel as though it's coming at the expense of gameplay, rather than as an addition to it. Not even talking about endgame, a common complaint about the current leveling model is that once you've done one job, you're pretty much relegated to FATE and dungeon grinding from 1 to 50, with some breaks to fill out a hunting log. That isn't being addressed at all here, and it's a problem that needs to be addressed.

To me it feels like the housing could have waited.

Pretty much this.

Scrapping was a poor choice of words, my apologies. I meant it should be scrapped for the time being.

I'm not against them adding housing, just expressing that there should be other things at the top of their list of priorities right now. Implement and adjust content that the majority of players are taking part in and then take a look at the rest. At best it should be toward the bottom of the pile. There may be people looking forward to it, but in terms of what their other options are; they're not going to get a lot of mileage out of housing.

Also worth noting that they said(unless it's changed recently) that housing will be expensive. Odds are that you'll have to spend quite a bit of time amassing gil. If they implement housing and the average player has to farm for two months to get the best crib and furnishings, that's two months of wasted opportunity. 2 months you spent doing something you could already do(farming) instead of adding something new to participate in that could add a new dynamic immediately.



Edited, Nov 14th 2013 1:03am by FilthMcNasty

I didn't suggest they focus solely on endgame. I said they need to focus on things that are important to the majority. If you look at the list of upcoming changes, the majority are not endgame focused. AFAIK the only things related only to endgame are a few dungeons, a few primals and the extreme modes. They need to trim the fat.

PvP? How about getting the PvE balance changes done first. UI changes, camera improvement, adding quests, finding treasure, job and pet adjustments... even if it takes longer for these things to be implemented, they all have much higher potential to affect your gameplay on a consistent basis.

Do we really need a beauty salon? Sure we do, but it's not important now. Some day I might appreciate being able to change my avatar's appearance. Unless it's a lengthy process, you'll end up spending maybe 15 mins of your playtime in your XIV career selecting a hairstyle. Is it worth pushing back camera adjustments which would be noticed every time you play?

It will not be well received by the players if SE is going to boast about the amount of content they will implement then turn around and release an update that's mostly fluff.

I was actually going to emulate my XI character and have a long pony, but after hearing you talk about this awhile ago, I picked the little Samurai bun thingy :)

You know, if you're protected from rate downs (and as an extension of that your posts, regardless of their content, never falling to sub-default) it seems a bit of an abuse of an Admin status continually voicing the same opinion and perpetuating these back and forth arguments. It's not even that you're attempting to be a Devil's Advocate, your avatar doesn't resemble a white knight by accident I guess.

You can't be naive enough to believe that having your name in orange letters and perma-Excellent status doesn't lend weight to your arguments surely? That's a priviledge that comes with some small element of responsibility.

Oh... thanks! Been a member of Alla since about 2001 and only now hit 1000 posts. I feel like such a slacker!

Btw... love the FC name, noticed it the other day and was kicking myself I hadn't thought of it.

That is an awesome 1,000th post!

And, no, I don't think people who I chat with regularly on the forums really care much about me being an admin. As you can see in this thread, it doesn't scare people away from arguing with me, either.

As far as being responsible, here's what I think that means:

- Listening
- Being fair
- Being respectful
- Not trolling
- Not putting words in other people's mouths

Beyond those things, I'm free to discuss whatever I'd like. Frankly, over my 7+ years of being an admin here, I've earned it.



Wow, I wonder if the culture around here has really shifted that much? Color me surprised.

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 11:25am by Thayos

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 11:26am by Thayos

Naw, I prefer to know when an admin is posting. I'd assume the trolls would want to know that, too. Otherwise they'd get into an argument with someone, cross the line, and feel cheated that it was the forum equivalent of an undercover cop.

Back on topic-ish, let me reiterate that testing takes a long time. A really fricking long time. I'm alpha testing one of the functions of a revamped program at work, and every time I find a new major bug I have to say "nope still not working" and sit on my haunches and wait two hours while our devs rebuild and redeploy. Then I get to test for another ten minutes. Rinse, repeat.

Hey, at least it gives me a lot of time to web surf.

Edited, Nov 14th 2013 2:31pm by Catwho