As for the Beta forums, take the opinions there with a block of salt. I would venture a guess that most of the trolls there are in it for the free playtime and will vanish when the sub fee starts. Besides, we've got Zam ;)
Honestly, I wouldn't say that about people that complain. Sure there are always a few trolls, but the majority of them are probably upset at SE over their disastrous 1.0. It's like when you make a bad first impression and all your flaws stand out after that. I'm growing a little tired of the insults of the Beta forums. Frankly this elitism that ZAM is somehow better than other places is just immature. In reality, we have our share of trolls here. We also have this retarded karma system that further warrants bullying of people whom you disagree with in general. On top of all that, these forums have a very SE biased feel to them which doesn't make me feel any better.
The bottom line is you're wrong.
It's more civil here without a doubt.
Complaints don't bother me in and of themselves. If every thread on the beta forums were simply expressing a desire for more free time or concern that end game isn't ready enough, I wouldn't bat an eye. It's not even that people disagree with those viewpoints that bothers me. A spirited debate is fine and sometimes makes you think of things you hadn't thought of before.
It's that those disagreements get taken to a whole other level of desperate rage. Those boards are smothered in it. It isn't enough to say you felt misled, it's that SE HAS LIED TO YOU!!! [email protected]
and anyone who doesn't pick up a torch and/or pitchfork is the enemy. It isn't enough to say you like the game, it's that those who want changes are breaking your immersion. It isn't enough to say you wish things were better, it's that those who are satisfied are getting in the way of the gameplay you want to see added.
Sure, we have trolls and whiteknights around here and the occasional silly fight, but it's nothing compared to how insane I've seen it get on SE's official forums.