so according to SEFollow

I with you i hope they add it in, it be a cool materia option too i feel.

You're leaving out a lot of SE's other points behind the removal of elemental weaknesses.

The horse was beaten to death during beta, but to humor you:

Part of it is not having to give casting classes additional skills (read: elemental spells) to not only have to balance, but also leave the player with additional hotbars just to fit them all in.

Part of it is SE trying to ensure that jobs don't get locked out of content by the player base (i.e. No CNJ allowed on Dungeon A because the mobs are all strong to both Earth and Wind; or DRG is weak to Water, no invites on Dungeon B!).

You're making it sound like SE thinks we're too dumb to handle it, which is NOT the case. You seem to take things very personally, which based on the fact that you still play a game that is clearly hurting you makes you a *********?


Side bar: inputting "lol drg" (without the space) into the post autocorrects itself to "I'm a moron" ...interesting.

Edited, Sep 6th 2013 1:45pm by diiablo

Well, since he does consider FFXI to be the pinnacle of MMO greatness, I would say this is spot on.

Only posting to comment that anyone that says Pokemon is a kids' game has clearly never witnessed the competitive scene.

...And that's all I have to say about that.

[laying a game thats hurting me? Thats interesting. Just because you like a game doesnt mean you have to think its perfect/flawless in every way. Id easily give the game an 8/10 and enjoying it thoroughly.. Im definitely not "forcing" myself to play. Sure i dont like a few of the design choices and i still think FFXI is (well WAS better.. i cant speak on FFXIs current state as i havent played it wince 2008) I mean ive literally got 20 other PS3 games i havent even touched yet but Im too busy playing this to touch them. So if i wasnt having fun those other games surely wouldnt be getting neglected

In XI this meant you had to have a separate staff, belt, and off hand (grip) for each element. That was 24 pieces of gear alone just to account for elemental variables if you wanted maximum damage. By long player demanded they finally added a "universal" staff (I use the HQ Chatoyant now) that had most of the attributes of the individual elemental staves, although not all of them. I still have to lug around a Terra's staff to this day because the -20% PDT didn't carry over to the rainbow pole versions.

I'm much happier with the XIV version of it, if only from an "ugh my inventory space!" perspective.

Then I'm confused. If you like the game, why are you so quick to be critical of it, rather then do a little research first? You cite a minor reason for the developers decision to remove the elemental wheel (casting fire on Ifrit by mistake). Had you taken the time to actually look into it, you'd have found the other reasons I presented. Your OP makes it sound like SE thinks we're all dumb, and they removed the Elemental Wheel because of it, thereby insulting your and our intelligences. That's so clearly NOT the case, I can only assume you must've taken it personally, and thus were "hurt" by the game. And mind you, this isn't the first time you've done this in one of your threads.

You don't have to be blown away by the game, but at least get your facts straight before suggesting SE's motives.



So true.

SMB 2 was one of my favorite games as a kid. I now have a master's degree in science.

I am one of those BLMs from XI. I always thought it was strange changing 50 times in battle, but I loved the extra damage. It worked for XI, given the game they designed then. I would absolutely despise it in XIV.

I couldnt have said it better myself. FFXI had charm, but was a rotten mess of gameplay elements and balance. It was in no way an example of what games, mmos included, should strive to be.

Until STWOR came out, FFXI was more or less the only true story based MMO out there. I tried WoW and it was.... not the same. Some games got part of it right. Most of the fantasy MMO games have the epic world lore and immersive gameplay down pat, but FFXI was the only one that added a genuine narrative to it as well, complete with cutscenes and long series of quests that drove the story. You didn't just become a knight to protect the kingdom of San'Doria, you found yourself intricately involved with the political turmoil of the royal family and probably cheering for one of the three siblings over the other. (Claidie, I love you, you're a badass girl, but Trion is the best heir to the throne of all time!)

You learned that the reason the Quadav attacked the miners in Palborough was because the miners had accidentally hit one of their egg nests... and they were protecting their young. You learned that the antagomism between the Tarutaru and the Elvaan stretched well over a thousand years because they kept attacking each other, trying to take over each other's respective continents. You learned about the plight of the Galka and the burden of the Talekeeper, which ultimately tied in to the main storyline with the Shadowlord and later on Dynamis, the original core game's primary endgame content.

FFXI was indeed a mess of a game, but it is that deep Final Fantasy storyline that has kept me addicted for nearly a decade, and FFXIV may be the first true game to hit all those sweet story notes again.

correct me if im wrong but didnt bahamuts staff also eliminate the need to carry around all those other staves?

You... don't have any particular attachment to your socks, do you?