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#1 Dec 04 2013 at 12:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm putting this together to benefit anyyone who is interested in creating one set of gear for all of your level 50 crafting jobs, that will give you the stats for 100% HQ of 2-star recipes. Part 1 will be the gear and materia requirements to reach the cap, and Part 2 will be the crafting rotation. These have been referenced in different threads on occasion, but this thread will hopefully be the one and only place you'll need to go for this information. First I'd like to give credit to a number of posters on Reddit (Axeman225, Rumstein, Kayile to name a few) for all of this info... I'm just putting it all together in one place for ease of use.

Part 1 - Gear and Materia guide

(All numbers for materia refer to the tier not the stat)

- Head: HQ Patricians - Materia: Control 3, Control 2, CP 3, Craftsmanship 1

- Body HQ Dodore Doublet - Materia: Control 3, Control 2, Craft 3, Craft 3, Craft 1

- Hands: HQ Patrician's Gloves - Materia: Control 3, Control 2, CP 3, Craft 1

- Legs: HQ Patrician's Bottoms - Materia: Control 3, Control 2, CP 3

- Feet: HQ Patrician's Gaiters - Materia: Control 3, Control 2, CP3, Craft 1

- Belt: HQ Raptorskin Merchant's Purse - Materia: Control 3, Control 2, CP3, Craft 1

- Neck: HQ Electrum Choker - Materia: Control 3, CP3, CP 2, Craft 1

- Earring: HQ Red Coral Earring - Materia: Control 3, CP 3, CP 3, Craft 1

- Wrist: HQ Militia Wristlets - Materia: Control 3, CP 3, CP 3, Craft 2, Control 1

- Rings: HQ Aetheryte Ring x2 - Materia: Control 3, CP 3, Craft 2, Control 1

- Offhand: (Varies - Get highest HQ possible from market boards for each class) - Materia: Craft 3, (Potentially Control 3/1 = +4 Control)

Part 2 - Crafting Rotation for 2-star 100% HQ

Min Req: 50 WVR, 50 CRP, 37 CUL, 15 BSM, 15 LTW

357 Craftsmanship, ~344 Control, 355 CP (341 if 50 Alch)

IQ > CS II > WN > SH2 > Basic Touch x 5 > GS > SH > Ing > Std Touch > GS > Byregots > CS II x 2

Alt Rotation Req: 50 WVR, 50 CRP, 37 CUL, 50 BSM, 15 LTW

347 Craftsmanship, ~330 Control, 379 CP (365 if 50 Alch)

IQ > CS II > WN > SH2 > Basic Touch x 5 > GS > SH > Ing II > Adv Touch > GS > Byregots > CS II x 2

References: Patrician's Crafting Gear for 100% HQ Requirements, The 100% HQ, 0 RNG 2 Star Rotation.

Edit: I have not done this yet myself, all of this information is copied from various sources... I will be testing this myself starting this evening.

EDIT 2: Someone made a guide that actually may be better then mine... my heart was in the right place but I'm not an expert nor a web designer, so you may want to go to this site too: LINK

Edited, Dec 11th 2013 9:01am by Hairspray
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#2 Dec 04 2013 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good post compiling a lot of useful information! While I personally make my money spiritbonding and converting my shiny AF over and over again to get chances at IV materia, I can totally understand going the route of super elite gear to craft HQ 2 star. R++
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#3 Dec 04 2013 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Valkayree wrote:
Good post compiling a lot of useful information! While I personally make my money spiritbonding and converting my shiny AF over and over again to get chances at IV materia, I can totally understand going the route of super elite gear to craft HQ 2 star. R++


Wait a minute, you can convert your AF armor?
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Valkayree wrote:
Good post compiling a lot of useful information! While I personally make my money spiritbonding and converting my shiny AF over and over again to get chances at IV materia, I can totally understand going the route of super elite gear to craft HQ 2 star. R++


How do you get your AF gear again?
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#5 Dec 04 2013 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hairspray wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
Good post compiling a lot of useful information! While I personally make my money spiritbonding and converting my shiny AF over and over again to get chances at IV materia, I can totally understand going the route of super elite gear to craft HQ 2 star. R++


Wait a minute, you can convert your AF armor?


I meant the crafted level 50 gear unique to each crafting class (goldsmith's gloves, goldsmith's boots, etc) which I lovingly refer to as "crafter AF". Those can be converted for a 10% shot at a IV materia.
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Valkayree wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
Good post compiling a lot of useful information! While I personally make my money spiritbonding and converting my shiny AF over and over again to get chances at IV materia, I can totally understand going the route of super elite gear to craft HQ 2 star. R++


Wait a minute, you can convert your AF armor?


I meant the crafted level 50 gear unique to each crafting class (goldsmith's gloves, goldsmith's boots, etc) which I lovingly refer to as "crafter AF". Those can be converted for a 10% shot at a IV materia.


Oh okay.... lol, I thought there was some way to get your AF armor again after converting it to have a never-ending supply of materia farming...
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#7 Dec 04 2013 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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Oh lord I'm in love with you Hairspray.

I had just calculated what it would cost me to meld my HQ AF armor with the recommended stats here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/91516-Best-materia-setup-for-crafters?p=1273980#post1273980

Basically, it added up to something like 1.8 mil for just ONE set of AF. lol

TY so much, Hairspray. :) Was looking to make a Vanya hat for my SCH here shortly and you just made it that much easier!

Edit: Question, though. Would the Patrician body work too?

Edit Edit: I see that Dodore is 3 guaranteed compared to Patrician's 2 guaranteed. Guess that's the route to take!

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 2:12pm by HitomeOfBismarck
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Oh lord I'm in love with you Hairspray.

I had just calculated what it would cost me to meld my HQ AF armor with the recommended stats here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/91516-Best-materia-setup-for-crafters?p=1273980#post1273980

Basically, it added up to something like 1.8 mil for just ONE set of AF. lol

TY so much, Hairspray. :) Was looking to make a Vanya hat for my SCH here shortly and you just made it that much easier!

Edit: Question, though. Would the Patrician body work too?

Edit Edit: I see that Dodore is 2 guaranteed compared to Patrician's 1 guaranteed.

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 2:12pm by HitomeOfBismarck


Dodore and Patrician's body both have the same stats, but the Dodore has 3 guaranteed materia slots compared to just 2 for Patrician's Body.

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Basically, it added up to something like 1.8 mil for just ONE set of AF. lol

Yeah that's why I did this, I'm going to spend the gil overmelding ONE set of crafting armor, not 8! Smiley: grin


Edited, Dec 4th 2013 2:21pm by Hairspray
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#9 Dec 04 2013 at 1:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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OK so here's the price for all of this. This ignores buying the gear, ignores failing a meld (lol), and ignores the offhand.

Control III: 10 @ 19K e.a.
Control II: 6 @ 18K e.a.
Control I: 2 @ 1.8K e.a.

Craft III: 2 @ 9K e.a.
Craft II: 3 @ 13.8K e.a.
Craft I: 6 @ 3K e.a.

CP III: 10 @ 9K e.a.
CP II: 1 @ 3K e.a.

Total: 472K g on Midgard.

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 2:50pm by HitomeOfBismarck
#10 Dec 04 2013 at 1:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
OK so here's the price for all of this. This ignores buying the gear, ignores failing a meld (lol), and ignores the offhand.

Control III: 10 @ 19K e.a.
Control II: 4 @ 18K e.a.
Control I: 2 @ 1.8K e.a.

Craft III: 2 @ 9K e.a.
Craft II: 3 @ 13.8K e.a.
Craft I: 6 @ 3K e.a.

CP III: 10 @ 9K e.a.
CP II: 1 @ 3K e.a.

Total: 436K g on Midgard.


Cool, I'm assuming I will fail several melds, so I'll just say this will be over a million gil total. I'm going to buy and place the guaranteed ones tonight, I'll start overmelding as I get the gil a little at a time.
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#11 Dec 04 2013 at 1:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds like a plan!
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Just as an FYI, you cannot place type IV materia on this gear... type III is the best it can take due to the item level of the gear.
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
OK so here's the price for all of this. This ignores buying the gear, ignores failing a meld (lol), and ignores the offhand.

Control III: 10 @ 19K e.a.
Control II: 6 @ 18K e.a.
Control I: 2 @ 1.8K e.a.

Craft III: 2 @ 9K e.a.
Craft II: 3 @ 13.8K e.a.
Craft I: 6 @ 3K e.a.

CP III: 10 @ 9K e.a.
CP II: 1 @ 3K e.a.

Total: 472K g on Midgard.

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 2:50pm by HitomeOfBismarck


If you DIY, Materia is free. The only cost is really in making the gear a few times over. And that's really only if you don't farm it yourself. The only thing I bought was some T1s to make up the gaps because I didn't want to blow up T3's for nothing. ;)

So, here's what I do: I put on all crafter jewelry, crafter waist, and gathering for the rest and just go bond-crazy. I didn't keep track of exactly how long it took, but for the amount of materia I was able to generate, it was pretty quick considering how long it would take me to make that much gil. If memory serves I bonded 5 sets of jewelry and the belt. I melded everything I had into my gear, and I'm at 349 Craftsmanship/324 control, 332 CP (365 with food). I did blow up a few, but I'm just saying that in what probably amounted to 4 or 5 hours of bonding, I had enough materia to get pretty **** close to the golden numbers. Once my WHM hits 50, I'll be putting on my Patrician's gear too. That's 11 T3 Materia in one cycle.

I don't want to come off as arguing with a proven solution. I'm just saying that DIY is doable, and not the soul-crushing experience that some make it out to be.

Edited, Dec 4th 2013 12:10pm by LebargeX
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#14 Dec 04 2013 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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I might have to do that for the overmelds. :X I'm not too experienced with spirit bonding, though.
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Spritbonding is super easy. Here's what I do:

1.) Equip your primary weapon for the job you have with the best AOE attack. (I only have one... WHM with Holy and Stoneskin to keep me alive + Kwehk my Choco-bro.)

2.) Put on the gear you want materia for, i.e. Crafting, gathering, or if you want to go for Savage/Piety/w/e anything else that can convert. If you're going after crafting gear, equip 2x HQ Aetheryte rings... Even if you're not, it's still a good idea as they are both Spritbond +1. They are pretty cheap, or if you're like me, just buy some cheap ore, or grab it from The Burning Wall node. I can't equip them on my WHM yet, but I put them on my crafters when I'm re-making gear.

3.) Go find something within 10 levels of your current level that has a decent population density. Since I'm level 49 and need lots of fleece to keep remaking stuff, I do Karakuls right now. I prefer the camp that's right next to the Roc FATE. There are 7 sheep in two groups. One group of 4 and one of 3. I have not yet confirmed that getting something closer in level goes faster. This may be worth researching.

4.) Blow up sheep until Yoshi is sad he put them in the game.

5.) Bond, Convert, Remake.

6.) Profit!

Other stuffs you will need: Lots of wind shards for GSM'ing (I caved and bought some cuz **** it's boring), electrum (grants miner xp), red coral (grants fishing xp) and basilisk eggs (more miner xp) for jewelry. The only thing I can't get multiple benefits from is the raptor skins. They're too low level to give me, the bird, or my bonding any boost. But, there's 7 of them in the SW corner of whatever zone Wineport is in. If you're doing Gathering gear, you'll need lots of skins.

Try it for a day and see if it tips the scales for you.

Happy hunting!
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Hairspray wrote:

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Basically, it added up to something like 1.8 mil for just ONE set of AF. lol

Yeah that's why I did this, I'm going to spend the gil overmelding ONE set of crafting armor, not 8! Smiley: grin


I'm thinking that I'm going to have to set one of these up as well. I think I will use the job specific set for my frequent mass level 49 crafts to build spiritbond and use the patricians set for my infrequent super 2 star HQ crafts.
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3.) Go find something within 10 levels of your current level that has a decent population density. Since I'm level 49 and need lots of fleece to keep remaking stuff, I do Karakuls right now. I prefer the camp that's right next to the Roc FATE. There are 7 sheep in two groups. One group of 4 and one of 3. I have not yet confirmed that getting something closer in level goes faster. This may be worth researching.


And please oh lord do not be one of the asshats that sits on the tops of the poles in the ceruleum mines aoe'ing the cultists that the ppl 45-50 are trying to level up from. You will be hated by many.

LebargeX wrote:

Other stuffs you will need: Lots of wind shards for GSM'ing (I caved and bought some cuz **** it's boring), electrum (grants miner xp), red coral (grants fishing xp) and basilisk eggs (more miner xp) for jewelry.


Shhhh. Dont tell them that.
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Does the given materia setup require HQ Patricians and Dodore to start with? Or is it for NQ?
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Does the given materia setup require HQ Patricians and Dodore to start with? Or is it for NQ?


You should never use NQ gear for crafting... ever.

Buy or make the HQ versions... THEN put in the millions of gil worth of materia lol.


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Valkayree wrote:
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3.) Go find something within 10 levels of your current level that has a decent population density. Since I'm level 49 and need lots of fleece to keep remaking stuff, I do Karakuls right now. I prefer the camp that's right next to the Roc FATE. There are 7 sheep in two groups. One group of 4 and one of 3. I have not yet confirmed that getting something closer in level goes faster. This may be worth researching.


And please oh lord do not be one of the asshats that sits on the tops of the poles in the ceruleum mines aoe'ing the cultists that the ppl 45-50 are trying to level up from. You will be hated by many.

LebargeX wrote:

Other stuffs you will need: Lots of wind shards for GSM'ing (I caved and bought some cuz **** it's boring), electrum (grants miner xp), red coral (grants fishing xp) and basilisk eggs (more miner xp) for jewelry.


Shhhh. Dont tell them that.


I did use the mines but since I'm not 50 yet I don't feel bad :p

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Hairspray wrote:
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Does the given materia setup require HQ Patricians and Dodore to start with? Or is it for NQ?

You should never use NQ gear for crafting... ever.

Buy or make the HQ versions... THEN put in the millions of gil worth of materia lol.

Hitome priced the materia for his server. Less than 500k. Not really millions. Thanks for the clarification nonetheless.
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LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:

3.) Go find something within 10 levels of your current level that has a decent population density. Since I'm level 49 and need lots of fleece to keep remaking stuff, I do Karakuls right now. I prefer the camp that's right next to the Roc FATE. There are 7 sheep in two groups. One group of 4 and one of 3. I have not yet confirmed that getting something closer in level goes faster. This may be worth researching.


And please oh lord do not be one of the asshats that sits on the tops of the poles in the ceruleum mines aoe'ing the cultists that the ppl 45-50 are trying to level up from. You will be hated by many.

LebargeX wrote:

Other stuffs you will need: Lots of wind shards for GSM'ing (I caved and bought some cuz **** it's boring), electrum (grants miner xp), red coral (grants fishing xp) and basilisk eggs (more miner xp) for jewelry.


Shhhh. Dont tell them that.


I did use the mines but since I'm not 50 yet I don't feel bad :p



That's totally acceptable. I was specifically referring to the Bards, SMN, and BLM who sit up there with their relic +1 aoeing everything in 2 hits. Impossible to get xp.
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svlyons wrote:
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svlyons wrote:
Does the given materia setup require HQ Patricians and Dodore to start with? Or is it for NQ?

You should never use NQ gear for crafting... ever.

Buy or make the HQ versions... THEN put in the millions of gil worth of materia lol.

Hitome priced the materia for his server. Less than 500k. Not really millions. Thanks for the clarification nonetheless.


That did not include the cost of having to re-do the ones that you lose when you fail trying to meld them. That's assuming you successfully melded every one which you will not... An over meld starts at around 40% chance to succeed (60% fail) and gets worse as you go along.

So likely in the one million to three million range when it's all said and done... I only want to do it once lol.
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Yeah you'll spend much more than the price I listed. I just quickly calculated the cost of all the materia involved.

I went through 12 Craft III's on my body today. Smiley: banghead

35% lol
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Yeah you'll spend much more than the price I listed. I just quickly calculated the cost of all the materia involved.

I went through 12 Craft III's on my body today. Smiley: banghead

35% lol


Yeah you definitely want to go in the order they are listed in in my OP... that will save you the most gil as far as failing over-melds goes.

I finished overmelding my Dodore Doublet this morning, all 5 materia attached! Smiley: grin

Now for the rest...

I need to power level my WVR to 50, I took it from 15-20 last night, so I can get CSII and also over-meld my own patrician's... I used Crystal Light to meld the first 2 materia to each of the patrician's this morning, but she doesn't have the quest done to over-meld, and it's a pain to 2-box and request meld over and over and over again with 2 PS3 controllers.

Not to mention I ran out of gil putting in the materia this morning >.> Time to farm again.



Edited, Dec 5th 2013 8:18am by Hairspray
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